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Author Topic: Captret - Capacitor and Electret  (Read 216066 times)

Offline ibpointless2

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2010, 12:24:24 PM »
@gravityblock,

It seems that this effect is much like the memory effect in rechargeable batteries.
If you drain a lead acid battery fully it will still have a small voltage. It will take
a very long time (shorted out) to remove that voltage. I was thinking of making a small
ocillator to boost the voltage to drive one ultra bright LED. But I need at least 1,3 volt
and approx. 1mA to do that. One capacitor will provide 0,1 volt @ some few pico Ampere.
So I will need A LOT of capacitors in series and parallel. Can't promise anything but if I
find a way to do it then I will post it here.

Groundloop.


There's more than just a few pico farads in it because it was able to light up a red 2.8 volt @28mA LED. It would light up at 1.5 volts and then flash so there is some usable energy in it.

If you want a test to see if it will last you can't use these small voltages. You'll need bigger capacitors with higher voltages. You need to be around 120 volts or more so that you can use a neon as a trigger to light up and short out the load.

Just be careful when doing the test if you use the captret that charges on one lead then disconnects on the other to supply a load. Wrong timing will drain the main power of the capacitor. So you need to find a way that allows you to charge from - to the top and then shuts that completely off with no leakage current then goes to + to the top so you can supply a load and have that completely off with no leakage current. That's going be hard because our modern day electronics allow for such leakage to happen and this is also why our electronics are not as efficient as they should be.


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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2010, 12:24:24 PM »

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2010, 12:43:17 PM »
@ibpointless2,

Connect a 1 Mega Ohm resistor. Look at the voltage. When the voltage
is stable, use Ohms law to calculate the countinous current your capacitor
can deliver. I'm not talking about the short time discharge current.

Groundloop.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2010, 03:15:23 PM »
@ibpointless2,

Connect a 1 Mega Ohm resistor. Look at the voltage. When the voltage
is stable, use Ohms law to calculate the countinous current your capacitor
can deliver. I'm not talking about the short time discharge current.

Groundloop.

But i'm talking about short time discharge current because its a capacitor and thats what it does. I have not attend it to be a battery but instead a radiant energy spike that can be used to charge a battery. And There is got to be more than a few pico farads of storage because it can do real work even though it is just a short flash from a LED. What is important is that it can do many short flashes and then recharge it self. Please don't take offence but you can't expect a century old laws to give you the conventional answer when i'm doing some thats unconventional. If we don't allow new ideas and new ways of thinking then we will never reach overunity because we will be stuck in the past.  I seen what i seen and have video proof of it too, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfbrVHWJwpc.

The short sharp time pulses are what is key, unlike want current electronic books would tell you. The Captret is not what i'm giving to the people, i'm teaching them how to rethink what they were taught and look at things differently so that they are not consumed by sheepherders.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2010, 03:15:23 PM »
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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2010, 03:45:58 PM »
Something to think about, AFAIK:

Capacitor cannot change it's voltage in an instant.
Inductor cannot change it's current in an instant.

And if you want a simple way to get energy out when reaching certain voltage you could use Zener diode. There are models with breakdown voltage around 2 Volts.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2010, 07:53:14 PM »
If we don't allow new ideas and new ways of thinking then we will never reach overunity because we will be stuck in the past.  I seen what i seen and have video proof of it too, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfbrVHWJwpc.

The short sharp time pulses are what is key, unlike want current electronic books would tell you. The Captret is not what i'm giving to the people, i'm teaching them how to rethink what they were taught and look at things differently so that they are not consumed by sheepherders.

It is well known that capacitors have the ability to self-charge, so this isn't anything new you are showing us.  Here's an excellent publication on capacitor anamolies, http://www.distinti.com/docs/cap_anom.pdf

Being stuck in the past may not be such a bad thing, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8  Maybe you need rethink what you have been taught and look at things differently so that you are not consumed by sheepherders, because there are two guys lighting a LED between their fingers in the above video along with other unconventional things by using ancient techniques.  I have seen what I have seen, and I have video proof of it also.  Could it be that the LED lit up due to the difference in the perspiration released by each person's fingers?  A chemical reaction similar to a battery?  We must first correctly understand what we are observing, before we can make it useable.
 
GB

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2010, 07:53:14 PM »
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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2010, 11:05:50 PM »
It is well known that capacitors have the ability to self-charge, so this isn't anything new you are showing us.  Here's an excellent publication on capacitor anamolies, http://www.distinti.com/docs/cap_anom.pdf

Being stuck in the past may not be such a bad thing, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8  Maybe you need rethink what you have been taught and look at things differently so that you are not consumed by sheepherders, because there are two guys lighting a LED between their fingers in the above video along with other unconventional things by using ancient techniques.  I have seen what I have seen, and I have video proof of it also.  Could it be that the LED lit up due to the difference in the perspiration released by each person's fingers?  A chemical reaction similar to a battery?  We must first correctly understand what we are observing, before we can make it useable.
 
GB


Well, well, well. I have meet someone with some since on the web  ;D. Howdy. You see things differently then me, this can be a good thing. I do think differently, its a different kind of different than yours. You have your way and i'll have my way and how about we meet in the middle?

Its a pleasure to meet you.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2010, 12:14:52 AM »

Well, well, well. I have meet someone with some since on the web  ;D. Howdy. You see things differently then me, this can be a good thing. I do think differently, its a different kind of different than yours. You have your way and i'll have my way and how about we meet in the middle?

Its a pleasure to meet you.

Two likes in unlike conditions, similar to water and steam. Show me where the center or middle point is on an infinite line or circle, then we can meet there. I'm sure I could find a different middle point than the middle point you found.  It's a pleasure to meet you also.

GB

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2010, 12:44:14 AM »
Captret PROOF OF OVERUNITY

I'm uploading a youtube video of the captret that shows it doing double the work!

Concept is:you charge a capacitor like normal and then connect it to a led and then it just flashes and thats it.

The proof of overunity i show that i charge the capacitor ONCE and then connect it to the captret part and it lights up the LED very bright, and then i connect it to the negative of the capacitor and it too lights up very bright! I got TWO flashes for the price of ONE!

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2010, 01:06:19 AM »
Video of Captret Overunity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBPCUdGA-AI


Charge it once and get double the return!

Pay close attention to when i flash the captret part, the LED seems to glow brighter and longer!

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2010, 01:06:19 AM »
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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2010, 04:24:34 AM »
Can you measure resistance between negative lead and 'o' lead of capacitor?
Can you measure capacitance of positive lead and 'o' lead and compare with capacitance of positive lead and negative lead?

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2010, 12:47:41 PM »
Somebody is using the capacitor recharge with a capacitor bank here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDtgghR0oWw&NR=1

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2010, 02:40:54 PM »
does anyone know how long a 9 volt battery will run a 28 mA led load?

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2010, 10:41:09 PM »
So far i've had made the captret do some useful work, i got it to light a LED continuously. Its a really simple LED driver circuit that go against what the textbooks say how to use a capacitor but it works! I've had one version that has been lighting a red LED for a week now non stop running off a "dead" 9 volt battery.

Now heres my problem. I have two version, both are the same in every way except one has a "dead" 9 volt battery and the other has a new out the package battery. The one that has the dead 9 volt battery is the one thats acting funny, instead of the voltage going down overtime like a normal load it goes up. And yes before i begun the test i let the 9 volt sit for a day untouched, but its been running for a week and the voltage seems to go up everyday! Now the new battery goes down, like it should, but its got me wonder if there is a sweet spot it gets to where it won't consume battery power anymore? Oh and one important note is that the LED will get dimmer over time, BUT will not go completely out when you use a RED LED, and i think it hits that sweet spot where it won't go dim anymore and then it won't consume anymore power?

But i don't know? Try the circuit yourself, its really simple to make.

The capacitor use are 1uF @ 50 volts. Just remove the outer plastic case to show the metal case and that is your "o" that you connect the 9 volts negative cable to. See how long your Captret LED driver will run for?

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2010, 01:28:45 AM »
Hi Steven,

I would suggest you use a 10 000 MykoF Elko instead of the battery. With such an elko you have a definite amount of energy stored up which you can calculate for a given voltage-level.

Second : is this setup ment to run continously or  do you break connections periodically ( alternating) ?

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2010, 04:01:06 AM »
Hi Steven,

I would suggest you use a 10 000 MykoF Elko instead of the battery. With such an elko you have a definite amount of energy stored up which you can calculate for a given voltage-level.

Second : is this setup ment to run continously or  do you break connections periodically ( alternating) ?

Regards



Kator01


I can't find by what you mean by "10 000 MykoF Elko", i did a google search and found nothing?

The connection is setup to run non-stop, direct current, never disconnecting to see how long it will run. The one that is running the dead battery has been running for about a week now and for some odd reason the voltage goes up as if a heavy load was put on it and you take that load off it and the battery bounces back, but the problem is that the battery has never been disconnected and its been doing this for about a week now. The voltage gain is really nothing to jump up and down about, yesterday it was at 8.04 volts and today its was at 8.05. I'm sure i'm not breaking any laws here because the battery started out at 8.22 volts from resting 24 hours and when i connected everything up the battery went down to 7.70 volts and ever since then it has been going up as if the LED is not even a load on it. It does seem though that recharging is not as fast as it use to be but it still happens. Once it gets over 8.22 volts then i'll be excited, but it still is amazing that the LED load is working in reverse.

 

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