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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 666180 times)

Offline TechStuf

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #195 on: April 30, 2010, 06:38:13 AM »

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Minority report is irrelevant here


I find that 'here' too, is also often irrelevant.  But such is life.


The FE field seems to be caught in some temoral causality loop....





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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #195 on: April 30, 2010, 06:38:13 AM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #196 on: April 30, 2010, 06:49:50 AM »

I find that 'here' too, is also often irrelevant.  But such is life.


The FE field seems to be caught in some temoral causality loop....





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And, who's to blame for that? Don't blame the victims.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #197 on: April 30, 2010, 07:06:43 AM »
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And, who's to blame for that? Don't blame the victims.


LOL 


Your playing free energy field marshall is also irrelevant here.

I don't blame the victims, whomever they may be.  I'm sure some are blaming themselves enough as it is.

Even if Yildiz laid it all on the line, revealing a true FE device, that too would remain irrelevant.  Until and unless TPTB decided to use their media whores to make it relevant.  And even then it's relevancy, such as it is, would be short lived.


Relevancy is soooo overrated these days.



Peace,


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #197 on: April 30, 2010, 07:06:43 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #198 on: April 30, 2010, 07:14:09 AM »
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Even if Yildiz laid it all on the line, revealing a true FE device, that too would remain irrelevant.

On the contrary, that'll be the only relevant course he should take. Especially providing for thousands to reproduce it promptly. Watch then the powers that be, twitching helplessly.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #199 on: April 30, 2010, 07:27:46 AM »
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Watch then the powers that be, twitching helplessly.


TPTB 'twitching helplessly' over the proliferation of FE?


I'm not into drugs, never have been.....


But I'll have what he's having.  It would take something really far out to put me into such a pure state of naïveté.....


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #200 on: April 30, 2010, 06:37:53 PM »
Okay, let´s come back to more technical discussions please.

I just received an answer from Mr. Duarte.

He wrote me:

Dear Mr. Hartmann,

The embodiment of the invention of Mr. Yildiz, as demonstrated at the TU Delft on April 20th, presents quite peculiar characteristics. The stator of the machine is composed of 12 segments, 7 of them have been opened and offered to the audience for inspection after the machine had been in operation for about 20 minutes. It should be noticed that the audience, not the inventor, had requested to stop operation in order to proceed with the inspection of the internal parts. 

All the exposed segments are made of aluminum or plastic, where pieces of permanent magnet in different shapes have been inserted. The contents of some of the remaining 5 segments are not yet protected by patents, and it is up to a future investor to decide whether or not to do so.

After removing the 7 segments from the stator, it was possible to see the external surface of the rotor inside in the machine. The rotor is made of aluminum, where also small magnets are fixed in holes. It is remarkable that, when the machine is in operation, this metallic cylinder rotates at about 2000 rpm in the close proximity of the strong stator magnets without noticeable heat dissipation. Strange, because we would expect the induction and circulation of significant eddy currents in the aluminum. Isn’t nice that all the inspected segments and the rotor were not hot after opening the machine? Only a slight temperature increase has been perceived in the neighborhood of the mechanical bearings. In fact, in order to rotate the metallic cylinder at this speed, so in the proximity of the stationary magnets, a substantial amount of power would be required. 

If it were the case of hiding a battery somewhere in the remaining closed parts, from an energetic point of view I would prefer to construct the rotor with other materials, but not with metal.

A fan was connected at the extremity of the rotor. All together, we have seen then a ventilator in operation at the exterior of the machine, together with an “eddy current damper” at the interior. This is really an unusual combination that requires not just a little bit of energy to keep the cylinder rotating!

Furthermore, it should be noticed that the remaining closed segments in the stator are not symmetrically located around the rotor. In case of hiding a battery in these parts, it is also imperative to use semiconductors switches in quite efficient power electronic circuits, for the purpose of producing high-intensity pulsating currents through different windings (again heat dissipation, what is not favorable for hidden electronics). The pulsating currents are a necessary condition to create a pulsating magnetic field that would cross the air gap between stator and rotor, allowing by this way the rotor to maintain its rotation. While producing torque, a pulsating magnetic field would also induce strong eddy currents in the rotor, on top of the previously described “damper” effect, and so on... Really, even for a skilled engineer the implementation of all these sophisticated circuits does not make any sense. 

At this moment, the inventor is in negotiations with possible investors.  Let’s hoop they will reach an agreement this time. Then the machine will be open, and we will have a simpler explanation on how the apparatus works, because, with batteries inside, it is hard to figure it out. 

Do you agree that, although the machine has not yet been fully open for inspection, the demonstration has shown a few points that do deserve some attention?

Sincerely yours,

Jorge Duarte / Technische Universiteit Eindhoven

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #201 on: April 30, 2010, 07:01:35 PM »
Thanks, Stefan, for all your effort to get to the bottom of all this. Could you please ask Dr. Duarte if he himself knows the real workings of the machine and is fully convinced that it's an OU machine by exactly knowing how it works or he is left as we all are with all kinds of suppositions and logical twists?

In these negotiations with investors, is Yildiz showing them the details as to how the device exactly works or tries to extract money from them by just showing them telltale signs that it it's supposed to work?
« Last Edit: April 30, 2010, 10:16:46 PM by Omnibus »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #202 on: April 30, 2010, 09:36:29 PM »
@hartiberlin. Did you questioned the decreasing rpm, when you contacted the guy?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #203 on: April 30, 2010, 10:13:49 PM »
  So Stefan ..

           Is this invention making the Perendev more credible ???   And from what i`m seeing Aluminium sems to be a good Magnetic Field isolator .. The thing that makes me wonder is that when they took it apart the aluminium parts cuted at 45 grades  had magnets on each side  ...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #204 on: May 03, 2010, 10:30:50 AM »
I have tested the rotor principle of Yildiz according to his patent claim, with an ascending row of stator magnets inside and a linear row outside in a set-up of 9:14:17 for inner stator, rotor and outer stator. De rotor magnets were 10 degrees out of alignment. The result was like with the Perendev thing. No tendency for rotation, rather a good brake than a good motor. So according to this test his patent claim seems to be bullshit to impress investors. Possibly a scammer indeed.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2010, 10:54:31 AM by AnandAadhar »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #205 on: May 04, 2010, 12:31:05 AM »
Below are two images of his stators and one graphically enhanced image of the rotor.

It seems to me that Mr. Yildiz patent claim does not in any way correspond to the magnet geometry shown at his last demonstration.




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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #206 on: May 04, 2010, 08:47:57 AM »
Several things are for sure in this matter.
Mr Yildiz has a history of non working OU devices in his trail and
Germany has a penalty on his arrest, not so good for credibility.
This slimy guy J.L. Duarte always seems to be around (since long) when
Yildiz is performing his tricks and he always takes care of questions.
The motor is never fully disassembled.
There has never been any dynamometer test for extended times.
The magnetic arrangement is a fools arrangement. It will not work.

If I'm wrong here and motor is tested and found OU I will deeply apologize.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 04:10:05 PM by FatChance!!! »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #207 on: May 04, 2010, 09:50:40 AM »
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Several things are for sure in this matter.
Mr Yildiz has a history of non working OU devices in his trail and
 has a penalty on his arrest, not so good for credibility.
This slimy guy J.L. Duarte always seems to be around (since long) when
Yildiz is  his tricks and he always takes care of questions.
The  is never fully assembled.
There has never been any dynamometer test for extended times.
The magnetic arrangement is a fools arrangement. It will not .

If I'm wrong here and motor is tested and found OU I will deeply apologize.

Me too, for one thing is sure, if he has OU in his hands he does not disclose it with his patent claim. The demonstration indeed shows another set-up as I said before. So without the plans we can't replicate it, and thus till we can it is all magic.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #208 on: May 29, 2010, 09:12:21 PM »
 ::)

following this topic....so it´s end of may....any news about this breathtaking invention ?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #209 on: June 03, 2010, 11:42:55 PM »
I found and uploaded the older BSMH device videos
from Yildiz to my youtube account over here.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=overunitydotcom#g/u


That was also a claimed free energy device with some
kind of motor/generator in a box, but the tests came out, that
the 12 Volts supply voltage dropped.
So there was probably a 12 Volts car battery hidden in the alubox I guess.

Regards, Stefan.

 

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