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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 648812 times)

Offline MT

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #150 on: April 27, 2010, 12:00:23 AM »
What??? This motor was already demonstrated in Eindhoven 1 year ago, with the same guy Jorge Luiz Duarte participating in the demonstration?

It's obviously a SCAM!

Presentation really took place. Made in meantime a video compilation of my recordings from it and uploaded to youtube. Check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeHXTnEddA4

Presentation took about one hour. Two motors were shown: diassembled yellow one and fully working motor with red fan. This motor with fan was started and stopped couple of times (on people request). I did not notice any run down. It basically run whole hour with small pauses needed to restart him.

The plan was (if I understood it correctly) to show working motor (yellow one) and then dissassemble it completely to show there are no batteries in it. Unfortunately (here we go again) the yellow motor broke down during tests and there was no backup. Only working motor with fan was not patented enough to be open for public. So basically it was just shown as is and let people decide to believe it or not.

It is interesting that motor was at least partially open in Delft presentation. Hope somebody made there detailed photos of its parts.
Delft version seems much stronger, people could not hear each other due to noise from ventilator. In Eindhoven presenation people could normally communicate next to it.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #150 on: April 27, 2010, 12:00:23 AM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #151 on: April 27, 2010, 12:53:52 AM »
@MT,

Thanks a lot for posting the video.

Did you get an idea as to what the purpose of that presentation might have been? Such presentation can in no way count as a proper demonstration of a device with such claims, because it doesn't meet the sound scientific criteria an university would require. What was the point a year ago at Eindhoven and what was the point this year at Delft? The worth of presenting it this way is every bit as much as if were never presented at all. Doesn't Yildiz realize that? Isn't that the case, really -- even this community here in this forum that so much cares about such devices wasn't aware that such presentation ever happened a year ago. Such claims will continue sinking in obscurity until the likes of Yildiz change their ways.

Did it become clear then, in Eindhoven, or now in Delft under what conditions he will assist third parties to replicate this motor?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #152 on: April 27, 2010, 01:33:48 AM »
@MT,

Yes, many thanks for posting this video.

Why was the presentation back in 2009 kept so secret ?

Nobody reported at this time about this event...
Hmm..
what was the outcome of it all ?

What did Dr. Duarte tell later to all the people there ?

Was Yildiz only doing this to get new investors ?

I have now seen also some critical claims about him on a few
youtube channel from a guy that worked with him
before and was dropped by Yildiz...
I still have to collect these claims and post it over here.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #152 on: April 27, 2010, 01:33:48 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #153 on: April 27, 2010, 04:55:32 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #154 on: April 27, 2010, 06:18:24 AM »
As there have been so many inventors who are/were obviously on the right track, one may reasonably surmise that more than coincidence is at work in their collective failure (to date) to reach the mainstream.

The principle dynamics at work are relatively simple and as such, are anathema to the world's thoroughly corrupted established corporate/governing systems.

The proliferation of such power would only be allowed by hidden design and for hidden agenda.


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #154 on: April 27, 2010, 06:18:24 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #155 on: April 27, 2010, 08:50:34 AM »
@MT,
Why was the presentation back in 2009 kept so secret ?
Nobody reported at this time about this event...
Hmm..
what was the outcome of it all ?
What did Dr. Duarte tell later to all the people there ?
Was Yildiz only doing this to get new investors ?
Regards, Stefan.
It was not a secret, no papers needed to be signed at the door. I got notice about such event through a friend who knew I was a bit into the energy stuff. Just nobody wrote about it here sofar. I myself did not feel comfortable to post it at that time and was just postponing it, maybe waiting for an impuls. When reading about the delft then I decided to publish what I know about it.

There were no claims raised. Actually I heard Dr. Duarte wanted to cancel presentation as there was basically nothing to show. Nothing in sense of complete opening of a working magnetic motor. But people were already comming so it was decided to go with it.
I think that yellow motor was meant to be shown running by itself then taken apart in front of professors and students to prove there are no batteries or other tricks. In my eyes that would be sufficient to claim magnetic motor as self running. The other with ventilator would be then a better version of same technology. There was no follow up, at least not that I know.

I know nothing about Delft and intentions behind it. Read about it at this website. No idea why it was chosen to show working motor but did not open it completely. Again!

What's good here I think is that inventor shows some willingness to at least open motors that are protected enough (in his eyes) for public. But would all of this be enough to make a replication?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #156 on: April 27, 2010, 09:44:57 AM »
Well, Yildiz´s former partner Erol Sert does not talk nicely about him:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=EW0LV63c5vY

He thinks Yildiz just wants to scam new investors only ...
Hmm....

He wrote:

Natürlich ist er bekannt er war mein Partner, aber am besten ist er bei der Staatsanwalt bekannt.
Yildiz braucht wieder Geld.
Bin mal gespannt wem er noch Geld aus der Tasche ziehen wird
(Meine Meinung )Es ist ein Flugzeugbau Elektromotor in der Maschine und Batterien den Rest kann man sich doch denken

Surely Yildiz is known, he was my partner, but he is better also well known from the
public prosecutor.
Yildiz needs again money.
I wonder, from which guy he will suck money out of the pocket now.
In my opinion it is just an airplane like electromotor inside this motor with batteries and
the rest you can imagine yourself..

« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 10:43:46 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #156 on: April 27, 2010, 09:44:57 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #157 on: April 27, 2010, 09:50:19 AM »
@MT,

Quote
I think that yellow motor was meant to be shown running by itself then taken apart in front of professors and students to prove there are no batteries or other tricks. In my eyes that would be sufficient to claim magnetic motor as self running. The other with ventilator would be then a better version of same technology. There was no follow up, at least not that I know.

That reminds me of what happened when Walter Torbay from Argentina came here in Manhattan with his motor. I wonder if you remember that story? He brought a model of his motor which supposedly was to be shown working as a self-sustaining machine. He, however, couldn't get it to work blaming for that the customs who he said had him take it apart after which he couldn't put it back together in a working condition. Instead, he showed a video of the motor purportedly working while taking apart the non-working model, same as in Yildiz case. You should read what the Argentinean press quoted that guy Torbay to have said regarding this event. Unbelievable.

The pattern repeats itself. Certainly, the likes of Dr.Duarte should see to it prior to calling the meeting that the open model really works and ensure that the open model is in working condition during the meeting, ready to be openly shown (the promotional motor shouldn't even be allowed in the room). If not he should promptly cancel it and not offer the bogus excuse that people have already gathered. Otherwise, a suspicion will always remain that he is in on the scam.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #158 on: April 27, 2010, 09:54:01 AM »
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In my opinion it is just an airplane like electromotor inside this motor with batteries

Question is, does the guy really know that for a fact or that's just his opinion?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #159 on: April 27, 2010, 10:38:12 AM »
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[ author=hartiberlin link=topic=8870.msg239224#msg239224 date=1272354297]
Well, Yildiz´s former partner Erol Sert does not talk nicely about him:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=EW0LV63c5vY

He thinks Yildiz just wants to scam new investors only ...
Hmm....

He wrote:

Natürlich ist er bekannt er war mein Partner, aber am besten ist er bei der Staatsanwalt bekannt.
Yildiz braucht wieder Geld.
Bin mal gespannt wem er noch Geld aus der Tasche ziehen wird
(Meine Meinung )Es ist ein Flugzeugbau Elektromotor in der Maschine und Batterien den Rest kann man sich doch denken

Surely Yildiz is know, he was my partner, but he is better also well known from the
prosectutor.
Yildiz needs again money.
I wonder, from which guy he will suck money out of the pocket now.
In my opinion it is just an airplane like electromotor inside this  with  and
the rest you can imagine yourself..

Beware Stephan this might be a jealous competitor trying to defame him. The guy himself has a magnet motor which needs an electric drive to run.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #160 on: April 27, 2010, 10:47:32 AM »
Well I tried to call Mr. Erol Sert
today, but he was not there and he will hopefully
call me back. I also emailed him.

Well, if he really was the partner of him and had a dispute,
then he will probably tell us, what he knows about it.

He probably had financed the demo of the aluminium -box demo
in 2005 where Duarte was also the host....
We will see, what he can tell us.

Mr. Duarte did not yet answer my email to him.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #161 on: April 27, 2010, 01:30:39 PM »
Beware of brazilians (like Duarte)... I'm brazilian, I know what I'm saying!


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #162 on: April 27, 2010, 01:42:51 PM »
Well, Yildiz´s former partner Erol Sert does not talk nicely about him:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=EW0LV63c5vY

He thinks Yildiz just wants to scam new investors only ...
Hmm....

He wrote:

Natürlich ist er bekannt er war mein Partner, aber am besten ist er bei der Staatsanwalt bekannt.
Yildiz braucht wieder Geld.
Bin mal gespannt wem er noch Geld aus der Tasche ziehen wird
(Meine Meinung )Es ist ein Flugzeugbau Elektromotor in der Maschine und Batterien den Rest kann man sich doch denken

Surely Yildiz is known, he was my partner, but he is better also well known from the
public prosecutor.
Yildiz needs again money.
I wonder, from which guy he will suck money out of the pocket now.
In my opinion it is just an airplane like electromotor inside this motor with batteries and
the rest you can imagine yourself..
Is it just me that is not surprised? Can we again confirm that magnet motors cannot produce energy? How many examples do we have to see before we are convinced that magnets is not the key to free energy?

I'm just sceptic :)

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #163 on: April 27, 2010, 03:49:35 PM »
I don't think there is a hidden batery in this device. How would you look if somebody sees it ? This acrylic rig of his is quite transparent. And in overall, it would be just to lame ;]

Now, you're saying that it slows down a bit in time. How can you say that ? By the spectral analysis of the low quality video on youtube (2 minutes part of a video ) ? Oh please. Yeah, and notice that the other part of the video has a stable RPM, as somebody has posted here.

You're saying that's just a big magnetic bearing. Yes, magnetic bearings can rotate for ages. But can you make them self start with such a power ? Yeah sure, you can say that the initial power has been provided by a hammer blow. Well... it's not a HAMMER but a hammer, and the inventor hasn't drunk ten redbulls to punch it. Make a rig that rotates like this with whatever hammer you like and then we can talk.

The only real problem I can see with this device is, that it doesn't like load. Somebody said here, that it can be stopped just by hand. Ok, that's not much, but... Connect it to the generator, where the lenz law doesn't apply and you have a source of power. For sure you need the generator part first ;)

All in all, I think it's just to soon to bury this A. He's is currently doing everything he can do. He needs investors so he presents the device. He is just in the middle of the patent procedure so he cannot open the device. If he want's to make money with it he just cannot give you everything on the table. And stop talking about open source like it's the best thing to do. It isn't. Every single one of you would firstly replicate it and then go and start a production company. The inventor would remain just an inventor. Yes he will find himself in Wikipedia. Yes he will write a book, start a web page etc. But all of you know, that the only guy who makes the real money is the guy with the first production line. Why cannot it be the inventor himself? Hasn't he earned this ? And if he starts the production company - won't you buy the device ? Won't the environment get better ? It will. So give this guy a break and let him work. If he's a scum you will know that sooner or later. If you don't trust him simply don't invest. But stop blaming him of being a businessman. Sorry for offtopic.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #164 on: April 27, 2010, 04:05:59 PM »
@Airstriker, if that's the way he'd woo investors he'd do better to start a church. Otherwise, the proper way would be to wait until he gets a patent granted and then demonstrate the device properly. The patent is his protection, isn't it? Otherwise why have a patent? Once he has a patent granted the details he's hiding now have to be fully disclosed so that the investors can see what their money is going for. If he doesn't want to disclose anything he should sell it as a trade secret and if he decides to go along that root he has no place in a university, on youtube etc. No one denies him the right to earn money (good luck with the most anti-business project) but that shouldn't be done through scams, hoaxes let alone outright fraud. Shows like the one we're witnessing smells of that rather than of a genuine, honest attempt to attract investors.

 

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