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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 649140 times)

Offline Gwandau

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #135 on: April 25, 2010, 03:30:00 AM »
sigmaX,

magnets does not run down if their repulsive positions are alternated with attractive positions.

So if anyone made a magnet motor that way,  the magnets would not run down, just as it says in the link you provided:

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If the magnets are placed in a state of repulsion only against each other in a magnet motor system, I would agree they will lose their magnetism over time.  If the magnets in the Perendev magnet motor are always in a state of repulsion only, then this would explain the magnet depletion problem.

However, if the magnets are placed in a working system so as to have repulsion forces on one half cycle and attraction forces on the other half cycle, then the magnets will continue their magnetic field density unchanged as they will realigned themselves.

Thus my Impulsion motor.

I have a set of 36 neodymium rare earth magnets grade 35 mounted in my permanent magnet dynamo since 1987, and I have found no difference in the magnetic field density today as compared to the time I first ordered them in 1987.

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Alan L Francoeur
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #135 on: April 25, 2010, 03:30:00 AM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #136 on: April 25, 2010, 03:46:58 AM »
sigmaX, in the quote you gave that fellow says:

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I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas.

What kind of lab is this, where is it located and do you have any contact information?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #137 on: April 25, 2010, 04:58:57 PM »
I agree with the argument that the motor is running down slowly. A short demonstration of his power generating device is useless. That is of course because of the possibility of internal batteries or, like the Perendev device its magnets will run down or be shown to be a fake.

If Mr Yildiz would show a much longer demonstration of the device, it would make for a much more convincing demonstration. I suggest as an absolute bare-bones minimum go for 24 hours. A longer time than 24 hours would be even better. Such an opportunity could arise if Mr. Yildiz is going to be giving a demonstration this May in Germany. Any slowing down of the motor from weakening of its magnets would be more apparent from a longer duration test. Bear in mind, if the device is real and actually goes into production the device would be expected to operate continuously for years on end.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #137 on: April 25, 2010, 04:58:57 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #138 on: April 25, 2010, 05:16:12 PM »
I agree with the argument that the motor is running down slowly. A short demonstration of his power generating device is useless. That is of course because of the possibility of internal batteries or, like the Perendev device its magnets will run down or be shown to be a fake.

If Mr Yildiz would show a much longer demonstration of the device, it would make for a much more convincing demonstration. I suggest as an absolute bare-bones minimum go for 24 hours. A longer time than 24 hours would be even better. Such an opportunity could arise if Mr. Yildiz is going to be giving a demonstration this May in Germany. Any slowing down of the motor from weakening of its magnets would be more apparent from a longer duration test. Bear in mind, if the device is real and actually goes into production the device would be expected to operate continuously for years on end.

Again, weakening of the magnets, if at all, has no bearing on whether or not this is an OU machine. It will be an OU machine even in the unlikely situation of magnets weakening.

Of course, if there's an internal battery that would be an outright fraud, given the impression he's creating that it's an all-magnet motor (not to me confused with the Steorb's battery driven eOrbo which was demonstrated to be OU, if there were no measurement errors).

Also, do you know it for a fact that the magnets of Perendev device are running down and that it's a fake or you're just repeating what you've heard or read what somebody has said on the internet?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #139 on: April 25, 2010, 07:35:29 PM »
Let's hope this motor will be questioned and examined in detail at the demonstration in May - if they show up.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #139 on: April 25, 2010, 07:35:29 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #140 on: April 25, 2010, 07:49:35 PM »
What I understand from what I read in here and in the different links I found is that magnetic motors of opposing magnets would deplete quite quickly. This seems to correlate with the presented sonogram ...

I would say that the only hope is the evident one: That Yildiz ends his "secrecy" (I read that he already got the needed patents) and show a real blow up of his invention with datasheet, etc.

This "cruzade" from university to university, at the end of the day, won´t give the assurance needed for any smart investor, unless he really opens up.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #141 on: April 25, 2010, 08:09:40 PM »
Obviously, his university "crusade" isn't geared towards smart investors but is aimed at un-smart ones. And there are plenty of those out there. He obviously knows that others have done it this way too and have amassed tons of money through "smart" talking to investors backed up by the appearance of university approval. I can think of at least three such enterprises (Perendev is not one of these; he hasn't been "smart" obviously by getting himself into trouble with investors) happily floating as we speak on millions of investor money, having delivered practically nothing. This whole game is pathetic and is to the great detriment to the OU revolution.

If he really wants to win he should go out of his way to assist thousands of people to replicate his motor. This applies to anybody with such claims.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #141 on: April 25, 2010, 08:09:40 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #142 on: April 26, 2010, 07:36:06 AM »
Why 3 seperate threads here about this?

My very quick take:

1) Well manufactured device
2) Extremely lacking on details, numbers, run times etc. etc.
3) Mostly disassembled doesn't equal fully disassembled

The lack of any data or any discussion on the theory of operation, the short demonstration time and the fact it was only partially disassembled means, at this point, this can't be considered anything more than a well built device of modest entertainment value.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #143 on: April 26, 2010, 07:47:03 AM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #144 on: April 26, 2010, 08:31:40 AM »
One year ago 27. april 2009 there was presentation in Eindhoven TU. Motor seems now more powerfull. In this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0LV63c5vY&feature=related
few seconds starting at about 20secs are from Eindhoven. 

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #145 on: April 26, 2010, 06:21:52 PM »
Again, weakening of the magnets, if at all, has no bearing on whether or not this is an OU machine. It will be an OU machine even in the unlikely situation of magnets weakening.

Of course, if there's an internal battery that would be an outright fraud, given the impression he's creating that it's an all-magnet motor (not to me confused with the Steorb's battery driven eOrbo which was demonstrated to be OU, if there were no measurement errors).

Also, do you know it for a fact that the magnets of Perendev device are running down and that it's a fake or you're just repeating what you've heard or read what somebody has said on the internet?

I don't personally know that the Perendev device is a fake or a fraud. However,according to Sterling Allan the German police do. "After reporting on April 14th that Perendev, famous for its all-magnet motor claim and viral video, had closed its doors, I noticed a couple of comments saying that the inventor and CEO, Michael J. Brady, had been arrested.

Finally today, I was pointed to two German newspaper articles that confirmed that he was indeed arrested in Zurich on March 29 and extradited to Germany in answer to a request made by the Public Prosecutor of Munich.  He now sits in a jail in Stadelheim"

http://pesn.com/2010/04/24/9501640_Michael_J_Brady_arrested_for_embezzlement/

Keep it honest, guys.


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #145 on: April 26, 2010, 06:21:52 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #146 on: April 26, 2010, 06:59:07 PM »
I don't personally know that the Perendev device is a fake or a fraud. However,according to Sterling Allan the German police do. "After reporting on April 14th that Perendev, famous for its all-magnet motor claim and viral video, had closed its doors, I noticed a couple of comments saying that the inventor and CEO, Michael J. Brady, had been arrested.

Finally today, I was pointed to two German newspaper articles that confirmed that he was indeed arrested in Zurich on March 29 and extradited to Germany in answer to a request made by the Public Prosecutor of Munich.  He now sits in a jail in Stadelheim"

http://pesn.com/2010/04/24/9501640_Michael_J_Brady_arrested_for_embezzlement/

Keep it honest, guys.

So, to keep it honest we should establish the fact that you have read what somebody else has said and what a paper has written but you personally don't know it for a fact.  In this case you are acting as just a conduit of somebody else's words. Many times, however, this somebody else can have a large chip on his shoulder.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #147 on: April 26, 2010, 08:48:06 PM »

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Many times, however, this somebody else can have a large chip on his shoulder.


You said it, OB-Wan....and sadly, too many times that 'chip' on the shoulder turns out to be a battery of some kind.


Case in point:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-IkulPFMxs


You'd at least think they could move on to thin film ultracaps!


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #148 on: April 26, 2010, 10:10:59 PM »
What??? This motor was already demonstrated in Eindhoven 1 year ago, with the same guy Jorge Luiz Duarte participating in the demonstration?

It's obviously a SCAM!

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #149 on: April 26, 2010, 11:36:12 PM »
@MT,
many thanks for posting the pics from the demo at
27. april 2009

What was exactly presented at this date ?

Did he also show a selfrunning motor then to the
people attending there ?

Did you also attend it ?

Why do we only see pictures now 1 year later ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

 

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