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supersam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #840 on: September 29, 2006, 08:38:00 PM »
carl

that is an interesting concept. you might actually get just the right amont of frequency change from the losses.  why not give it a try?

it occurs to me, though, what we might be looking for in these "kicks" is actually just power surges.  the two most common ways to generate a power surge are by creating a rapidly increased electrical presssure, like a lightning strike, or to disrupt temporarrily the electron flow in a given circuit through switching.  does any of this make since or am i just babbling?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #841 on: September 29, 2006, 08:47:00 PM »
carl

that is an interesting concept. you might actually get just the right amont of frequency change from the losses.  why not give it a try?

it occurs to me, though, what we might be looking for in these "kicks" is actually just power surges.  the two most common ways to generate a power surge are by creating a rapidly increased electrical presssure, like a lightning strike, or to disrupt temporarrily the electron flow in a given circuit through switching.  does any of this make since or am i just babbling?

giantkiller,
dude make it happen!



supersam,

I believe that is exactly what we are trying to do by using the square wave pulses and power transistors. Pulsed DC is the path that Tesla was going down and so are we it seems! Just using a slightly different technology.

I'm gonna try this later today and over the weekend, i have a few different ideas and I'll keep you posted of the results.

Regards,

Carl

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #842 on: September 29, 2006, 08:57:55 PM »
Electro-magnetics:
http://au.geocities.com/psyberplasmic/ccS1-2.html

I rest my case... ;)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #843 on: September 29, 2006, 09:18:42 PM »
The middle waveform seems pretty regular. Can you figure out its frequency?


@Dingus:

If anyone wants me to generate a custom set of frequencies PLEASE REQUEST!

I wonder: what happens if you replicate this experiment in your program?


Well something lost in this example is square wave format, the example is sine.

I have replicated it in a square format and do not observe the growing feedback in the wafeform.
(but I do think hes on to something)

I must go now but when I return tonight I WILL investigate further.

(What program are you using to simulate this waveform???)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #844 on: September 29, 2006, 09:31:30 PM »
And I must add this if nobody has seen it.
A great global explanation of Tesla's work and thinking...
http://au.geocities.com/psyberplasmic/ccS1-4.html

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #845 on: September 29, 2006, 10:00:46 PM »
OK, first,

RE: my last post about being able to measure kicks. If the kicks are of a radiant nature, we probably won't be able to measure them with normal equipment. However, I know that we will be able to measure something interesting.  To quote SM

It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another. Then you can measure all kinds of things going on. You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds.

So, what we need to figure out is what we are looking at.... or for.. What is the "all kinds of things going on"

Also, I could be dead wrong on this. It could be straigt up power. If that is the case, just creating superposition of frequencies will generate nothing. We need the lightening quick PULSES. Fast on, fast off. And LOTS of them in succession.

I spoke with Peter Lindemann on the phone a while back, he told me that in Tesla's experiments what tesla found is that when current suddenly stops in a wire, Potential(voltage) will make a path, in the sudden absence of current, it will rise dramatically and CREATE CURRENT FOR ITSELF. He said something like 10,000 volts is roughly equivalent to 1 Amp of current, by our present day measuring system. Which seems to me to be extremely unbalanced if in fact current and voltage have equivalnces. He also explained how the inverse can happen..

Now, the second purpose of this post..

Remember how I said I'd go check out amasci.com again, and bill beatty's stuff and do some research on magnetometers?

Well Amasci.com did it again. Bill Beaty amazed me. I found a PDF of a design for a magnetometer there and some technical descriptions of how they work... Very interesting read. There are also some diagrams of some coils that actually look a bit like a TPU in other articles.

At any rate after reading the attached article, I'm sure we'll be talking about things like proton precession, and playing with a few new frequencies, and winding coils with specific numbers of turns, and tuning circuits. It will need to be adapted a bit to what we are doing, but so much of whats in it is relevent it's rediculous. The specific Magnetometer in the article is made with detectors that utilize distilled water for it's hydrogen content, but that's not the only kind of magnetometer out there. Like I said some of them have very similar coil designs.

It explains the magnets, it explains frequencies, and how to find the ones we want to play with, it explains pulsing the coil, and why it's important for the current to abruptly stop... It's actually kind of scary.

For those of you who don't know what a Magnetometer is, it's a device that detects and converts the earths magnetic field into small amounts of electricity, for the purposes of scientific research, and detecting metal..

You see a magnetometer is resonant with the earths magnetic field, and when the earth's magnetic field is perturbed by a local magnetic field electron polarities change and it induces a small current in the device, which is used for a sensor and trips a circuit to let you know about it. (in the case of magnetometers that are used for metal detecting).

Now what could be the perturbing local magnetic field that triggers this reaction in the TPU? Hmmm?

Regards,
Rich

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #846 on: September 29, 2006, 10:42:06 PM »
rich,

did you not hear, compression of electrical field can also create a power surge!  a rapid increase in voltage like you can get out of a toroidal coil "transformer" can also create a power surge.

i guess, it all depends on how you ramp your coil up: or switch it.

the point being there is more than one way to skin the cat.

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #847 on: September 29, 2006, 10:47:48 PM »
rich

ps i think it all depends on how you use your contol windings.  you can use them to step up the voltage with a loss of currrent if you want to.  maybe even to the point you get a "kick". this is actually a little more than theory.

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #848 on: September 29, 2006, 11:05:21 PM »
rich,

did you not hear, compression of electrical field can also create a power surge!  a rapid increase in voltage like you can get out of a toroidal coil "transformer" can also create a power surge.

i guess, it all depends on how you ramp your coil up: or switch it.

the point being there is more than one way to skin the cat.

lol
sam


I hear what you are saying Sam, and I agree for the most part. However, I believe there is only one way, conceptually to skin THIS cat. New technology is usually created by joining two or more older technologies together. The wheel, and the shoe for example, make rollerskates, and people have been enjoying them for quite a while now. How long had the wheel and the shoe been around separately before some guy in the 50's or 60's in California decided to put them together? Centuries? Millenia? That's just an example. Convergence of technologies can be extremely powerful, as in the example of the convergence of the bicycle, kite, and internal combustion engine, by the wright brothers.

The basic components of what we are making will be simple, and known quantities, and when we get it together, we will all say "OF COURSE, IT'S SO SIMPLE!", but for now, it's baffling. SM claims his device is simple, that it uses the earth's magnetic field, and that it uses kicks of energy in specially wound coils, that it requires sharp on and off pulses of power to create the kicks, and that it's started by a magnet. So, with that description, what existing technologies can we explore that exhibit some or all of those properties? Tesla's work, Antennas, and Magnetometers. I'm not saying this is absolutely correct, but a convergence of those three things would indeed manifest a device very similar SM's device. As to compressing an electric field.. yes, we know about that. We've studied the "bunching effect" extensively, and it's a direct extraction from tesla's work.

However, I've never seen a kick come out of a transformer in normal operation. Dave is working with htrs slightly out of phase with eachother right now, and I assume he's connecting them in reverse of one another to see "all kinds of things going on."

:)
Rich

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #849 on: September 29, 2006, 11:26:23 PM »
All well and good....
But the toroid has an emmission face that points inward towards itself, the center. And that is where the compression comes in.
When you apply a square wave, on the front side of the pulse the magnetic field ramps up, but on the trailing edge, the force slams back to normality exceedingly faster than the up start due to not only the earth's magnetic force but the magnetic force of the compression. Huge back-emp. On the scope you see the current pulse as that happens. Nature abhors a vaccum.
That is the 'Kick', and the harmonic buzzing and the gyroscope leveling effect. Plus the fact that the first lines of flux generated break apart from the center and envelope the unit spherically, more potential built up. Again, on the trailing edge these outer flux lines break, unleashing more power, back to enveloping the toroid and decease through the windings. A sine wave can't produce this effect as great.
It slowly relaxes and looks like the generated freqency. But again, the square wave has infinitely more frequencies and harmonics. All this work is very dependent on how the unit impresses force and vibration to create interference against the earth's magnetic field. Tesla talked about this. 8)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #850 on: September 30, 2006, 12:24:19 AM »
giantkiller,

BOOM!

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sam

ps: you go man!

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #851 on: September 30, 2006, 12:28:05 AM »
marcos,

BOOM! YOU ROCK!

YOU GO!

LOL
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #852 on: September 30, 2006, 12:34:08 AM »
wow,

where did you get the graphics, Marcos?  they really set it off!

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #853 on: September 30, 2006, 01:17:26 AM »
marcos,

sorry if i gave you the wrong impression.  idon't have it all figured out!

i just wish you'd hurry up and get it all figured out. so i can buy a unit!

lol
sam

ps: but, with this internet thing i think i can find what i asked you for.  thanks anyway. get back to doing what you do best. DOING!

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #854 on: September 30, 2006, 01:34:44 AM »
There are never failures. Only rites to passage!

And never, I mean never, give up. When you reach the point of despair, you are on the brink of true accomplishment! I have been here soooo many times. Burnout is another matter. Take a big break and think. Push away from the project for a moment and breathe. Do a lap, pet the pet, go hug someone, hey I am going to go have a beer. Join me, won't you? Where ever you are at!

Blessings to all of you in all your levels of efforts.

It all matters, it's all good!

Let's kick some ass, boys! It's about to get real cool! 8)