Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1242960 times)

supersam · « **Reply #810 on:** September 29, 2006, 08:27:44 AM »

shuttinup shutinup!

lol
sam

supersam · « **Reply #811 on:** September 29, 2006, 08:36:21 AM »

P.S.

has anoybody taken a look a wikapedias, transformer basics? there seem to be lots of warnings about "kicks"
J.C.
lol

shutinup shutinup

otto · « **Reply #812 on:** September 29, 2006, 11:50:20 AM »

Hello all,

Nostradam

I fully agree. I think that only the length of wire is important. If the wire is long and the frequency low (say 7..Hz the electrons are trawelling longer then in short wires with say 5000 Hz.

By the way, my TPU was working with 2 frequencies and I had very good results. There was a very, very STRONG rotational magnetic field. The control coils were connected in one piece (no segments). One resonant frequency was 6-8 Hz and the other around 5000 Hz BUT my control coils were wound vertical as tao showed us (thanks tao) and one coil horizontal around the circunference. I pulsed one coil with 6-8 Hz and the other with 5000 Hz. I can tell you, that was amazing.
As many time before I throw my TPU away! I was not satisfied! Dont say I?m crazy but I feel that something with my TPU was wrong. I?m winding a new TPU ( the 4th) and I think it will be better.
This is the reason why I?m buing today a oscilloskop. It will be used but with 100 Mz very good for me. Don?t think I have money but to finish this project with success I need the scope.

Regards

Otto

otto · « **Reply #813 on:** September 29, 2006, 01:22:03 PM »

Hello all,

ctglabs

I had 1 vertical and 1 horizontal coil pulsed with 2 frequencies. The interesting thing was that I put one little magnet OUTSIDE the TPU, so to say, on the right side and an other magnet on the left side and as I changed the frequency in one moment vibrated the right magnet and when I changed the frequency again the left magnet vibrated and again at another frequency both magnets vibrated. The distance between the magnets and the TPU was 1 inch. The hight of the magnetic field was 1 feet (35 cm). I measured it. Inside the TPU, as I changed the frequency, my magnetic needle was spinning horizontally or, when I changed the frequency, vertically. It seems to me that we can do a lot of things by just playing with frequencies. Sorry, don?t ask me the frequencies because in this moment I have no scope.

Regards

Otto

gyulasun · « **Reply #814 on:** September 29, 2006, 02:18:24 PM »

Quote from: otto on September 29, 2006, 01:22:03 PM

... Sorry, don?t ask me the frequencies because in this moment I have no scope.

Hi Otto,

Of course an oscilloscope is the best for checking waveforms etc but maybe for measuring the frequencies you may borrow from your friends' circle a digital multimeter with frequncy measurement function? Just an idea...
Maybe a university or college lab near to you could be also of help in giving you meas. instrument, I wonder. I know it is not easy to beg around...

rgds
Gyula

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #815 on:** September 29, 2006, 02:46:56 PM »

I have spent the last few hours simulating square wave variations of the Schuman Resonance, my findings were that no anomalys spike were observed by the scope. This simulated frequencies package can be useful to experimenters that do not have the time or components require to replicate these pulses with electronics. I can simulate anything you need from .01Hz - 22050Hz, and you can use a linear amplifier and your soundcard output to power your coils.

If anyone wants me to generate a custom set of frequencies PLEASE REQUEST!

I can export 2 tone wave files so left is frequency 1 and right is frequency 2.

I hope I can further assist in this area of the project...

starcruiser · « **Reply #816 on:** September 29, 2006, 03:38:13 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on September 29, 2006, 11:47:43 AM

Dear all,

For those interested in looking for the signal mixing and kicks in two transformers with different phases, I present a simple circuit which is yet to be tested, so may require a little de-bugging.

Basically we have two square wave generators, we can switch between (SW1) using just one of them and having two phase shifted outputs, or we can choose to have two frequencys and shift between the phases (of course changing two frequencys would give give a kind of shift too!>!).

These outputs are fed to the primary of two transformers, of course you connect these however you want and in what order you want, or even mix it all in to the primary of one transformer.

VR2 alters the phase shift, but be aware that say 90 degrees on one frequency, wont be 90 degrees on another, whichever phase must be adjusted with the adjustment in frequency. The outputs are then buffered before going to the transistors which can be whatever you have laying around as long as they are enough to run the transformers, etc.

Regards,

Dave.

Dave,

Looks good, one question though, didn't Tesla use short duration pulses? I am not sure so I ask, can you design this to vary the duty cycle? I feel this may help. We may need a 20/80 or 30/70 cycle (On/Off) to improve the test results.

Just a thought.

Carl

gn0stik · « **Reply #817 on:** September 29, 2006, 04:10:21 PM »

OK, I just had a thought. Are we all chasing rabbits trying to measure the kick in the first place? Seems to be if the Kick phenomena(radiant flying off the surface of the wire at 90), is due to the "bunching effect", and electrons are not flowing through the full length of the wire we are measuring yet, but instead causing energy to leave the circuit at right angles... Wouldn't we have a VERY hard time measuring the kick on anything but the collectors? And even then, if the energy that we are trying to measure is radiant energy, is it measurable at all with std equipment?

This occured to me, as I've seen a few posts that were analyzing theoretical waveforms, trying to find kicks, etc., and I thought to myself, "is that even where kicks occur?"

Am I too far off base here? Am I making sense?

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #818 on:** September 29, 2006, 04:33:27 PM »

Quote from: gn0stik on September 29, 2006, 04:10:21 PM

OK, I just had a thought. Are we all chasing rabbits trying to measure the kick in the first place? Seems to be if the Kick phenomena(radiant flying off the surface of the wire at 90), is due to the "bunching effect", and electrons are not flowing through the full length of the wire we are measuring yet, but instead causing energy to leave the circuit at right angles... Wouldn't we have a VERY hard time measuring the kick on anything but the collectors? And even then, if the energy that we are trying to measure is radiant energy, is it measurable at all with std equipment?

This occured to me, as I've seen a few posts that were analyzing theoretical waveforms, trying to find kicks, etc., and I thought to myself, "is that even where kicks occur?"

Am I too far off base here? Am I making sense?

I'm unsure of this as well...

Altho Mannix and Marks both made refrence to Marks observing this kick effect before developing the first device, if memory serves me, the effect was witnessed in out of phase transformers in series and vacuum tubes. If we can measure anomalys spikes in either instance, it may give us the resonant frequencies to calculate harmonicly tuned coils needed for the device. On the other hand the kick effect witnessed in the transformers or vacuum tubes may not be the kicks we are looking for but phantoms that are similar in nature but not amplitude. I feel we need much more information, the info provided thus far is interesting but not enough to precisely test anything directly related.

Why would Mannix or Marks hold back helpful data that doesn't refer to the patented device? I guess we'll just have to hope the patent lapses one day so that anti-replication clauses, nondisclosure agreements and licensing fees will be nullified, then perhaps Mr Marks will finally share the secret to world peace and postmodern civil sovernty.

jacob · « **Reply #819 on:** September 29, 2006, 04:33:35 PM »

Hi Dave,

And by the way thanks for yesterday's welcome.

Quote from: ctglabs on September 29, 2006, 02:31:24 PM

If you are using one vertical and one horizontal coil I think I can see that rotation could infact occur with sine wave! But not if using square wave?

This could be how SM has rotating field with very simple setup? But he says the horizontal coils are for collectors, not for control? Also in the large SM device, many wires can be seen coming of the torroid and going to the centre, which indicates more coils as he says.

You are right about the collector coils. We have to apply the sine waves to the control coils. The rotational inertia and gyroscopic effect is produced horizontally, not vertically. The reason Otto got results from his setup is because he feed back the output signal to the input.

Now regarding square waves vs sine waves, here is what I think is happening here:

Kicks are said to be happening when current is first set to travel through a conductor or when the flow is abruptly stopped. Now these sudden changes in current are like a square wave. And it can be shown mathematically that square waves contain all the other frequencies. Therefore when there is an abrupt change in current flow. The electrons that travel through the conductor are not set in motion linearly but start to oscillate going through the whole spectrum before the flow becomes uniform. As this happen, the "right" frequency is produced for a split second. But since the circuit is not tuned to this special frequency were the conductor interracts directly with the earth magnetic field, the kick is short lived. So to be able to observe a kick in a plain conductor, a square wave need to be used. But if the circuit is tuned to the right frequency, we can keep tapping into this energy. So the TPU can and in fact does operate with sine waves. Therefore, 2 simple tuned LC circuits is all it takes to do the job.

Regards,

Jacob

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #820 on:** September 29, 2006, 04:45:40 PM »

Quote from: -[marco]- on September 29, 2006, 04:36:13 PM

Well dave thats just the beginning ey.

if two tones are hit on a piano that are close toghether the produced sound strength will rise and fall with a "kickking" effect.

Hi Marco,

Sounds interesting! Does it state anywhere how big the amplification is (what size the kicks are compared to the input signal)?
Would it be possible for you to scan/digitize some important pages of the book and put it online? (I know it's Dutch.....but then again, so am I)

Regards Dutchy

jacob · « **Reply #821 on:** September 29, 2006, 05:01:12 PM »

Quote from: gn0stik on September 29, 2006, 04:10:21 PM

OK, I just had a thought. Are we all chasing rabbits trying to measure the kick in the first place?

Hi Rich,

Yes, I think you're right. We know that the kicks do happen. All we have to do is tap into them. Or more apropriately "tune" into them. Which is exactly what a tune circuit allows us to do.

Regards,

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #822 on:** September 29, 2006, 05:09:33 PM »

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on September 29, 2006, 04:33:27 PM

Why would Mannix or Marks hold back helpful data that doesn't refer to the patented device? I guess we'll just have to hope the patent lapses one day so that anti-replication clauses, nondisclosure agreements and licensing fees will be nullified, then perhaps Mr Marks will finally share the secret to world peace and postmodern civil sovernty.

Dingus,

I don't think Mannix has this information. Strangely, he seems to be searching for answers just like anyone else. As for SM, he already explained all he could about the TPU. His posts contain ALL the answers we need.

Regards,

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #823 on:** September 29, 2006, 05:57:42 PM »

Marco,

That's very interesting. Frequency builds up slowly. No effects on amplitude though. Does the frequency keep going up or does it stabilize at some point?

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #824 on:** September 29, 2006, 06:12:45 PM »

This is consistent with the TPU behaviour showing the inertia of the rotating field. The device slowly gets to its maximum designed efficiency when activated, and winds down slowly when deactivated.

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