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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1243024 times)

jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #825 on: September 29, 2006, 06:15:20 PM »
i dont think so......
below is same but now with 1000 seconds wave
it beginning to look like some kind of vortex ey ;D

Hey Marco, this is EXTREMELY interesting! I think you have something here!

Jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #826 on: September 29, 2006, 06:19:17 PM »
The frequency not only builds up, but it's also modulated.

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« Reply #827 on: September 29, 2006, 06:38:59 PM »
yeah so now i throw in a 3rd frequenty... lets say 5000 Hz.
Than you can see the wave starts to wave itself. :)

What is the waveform at the bottom? Is it the 5000 hz?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #828 on: September 29, 2006, 06:50:16 PM »
The middle waveform seems pretty regular. Can you figure out its frequency?


@Dingus:

If anyone wants me to generate a custom set of frequencies PLEASE REQUEST!

I wonder: what happens if you replicate this experiment in your program?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #829 on: September 29, 2006, 06:55:43 PM »
The middle waveform seems pretty regular. Can you figure out its frequency?


yes... it is 7.8 Hz + 7.4 Hz + 5000 Hz somewhere between 0 and 1000 sec. ;D

Marco,

Can you tell us what the period of the middle signal is? if so we can determine the frequency by f=1/t

regards,

Carl

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« Reply #830 on: September 29, 2006, 06:57:53 PM »
to all experimenters,

let's get to the basics!  if you have a current traveling through a wire you are producing a magnetic field at 90 degrees to the direction of the current.  if you take your right hand and point your thumb in the direction of the current and curl your fingers in then you know the direction of the flow of the magnetic field.  everyone with me so far.

if you take your wire that has the current flowing in it and make a loop out of it, what is happening?  if lets say your current is flowing counter clockwise then your magnetic field is flowing in a circle at 90 degrees to your wire loop as the current travels around the loop.  meaning your magnetic field is coming up throuh the loop.  if your current was traveling clockwise the opposite magnetic field direction would also apply.

what ends up happening that is very interesting in the loop either way is that you get a concentration of the magnetic field on the inside of your loop.  why?  be cause all of the magnetic flux lines on the inside of the loop are concentrated in the diameter of the loop, however on the outside of the loop they are free and have all the space in thier world to travel.  no effect on the speed they travel mind you just in the space they all have to be packed into.  everyone still there.  so to get a magnetic field traveling in a circle is no great feat.  all you have to do is run a current through a loop of wire.

now lets say you take another wire and wrap it around the first wire.  what have you done?  that is right you have made a loop of a piece of wire. lets say a current is ran through this wire.  which way?  seems to me that you would want it also to be running counter clockwise around the first wire. why?  good question. 

using the same facts as the current producing a magetic field in the first wire as guide can anyone tell me which way it would be best to have the magnetic field in the second loop of wire flowin?  i really don't know.  my theory is that it would be best to have the current of the second wire also running counter clockwise, so that the manetic field would be "kicking along" the current in the first wire loop.  but that is just a theory.  other things to ponder are if you have a current running in the second wire loop auond the first wire loop can the magnetic field created by the current induce a current on the first wire loop (collector)?

next fact is when you take a magnet and move it toward a conductive wire loop a current is generated that travels counter clockwise.  when you start to move the magnet away from the loop the current reverses.  the current is only produced when the magnet is in motion either toward the loop or away.  can the current induced then by just moving a magnet toward a toroid coil be enough to start this current in motion?

looking forward to a little more information on the real physics of this thing instead of so much speculation. 

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #831 on: September 29, 2006, 07:04:06 PM »
supersam,

We could do this by using the torrid coil with 2 control coils wound oppposite and pulse them to create the counter fields right? Thus the collector coil would allow us to view the resulting signal on our scopes. All we need to do is make sure the control signals are slightly out of phase to avoid cancellation.

What do you think?

I was just thinking that this may provide another interesting effect.... gravity cancellation (i.e. anti-gravity)??

Regards,

Carl

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« Reply #832 on: September 29, 2006, 07:03:05 PM »
@sam!!! You're there!

Hi all,

My circuit (on post page 211) does the dual variable frequencies (the 556 dual clocks chip).
The 74193s can count up or down by the switches.
The 74139s are dual decoders, meaning there are two of them operating seperately.

So I can control 8 coils (post page 157), seperately or intertwined in some configuration at any speed.

I am buidling the circuit part this weekend. Keep in mind the previoulsy mentioned variability of the circuit output. I will be able to patch this circuit to the coil in my avatar with jumper wires and in turn jumper around the coil connections in other ways.

Why? Well I have achieved total maleability so far. I then can change out the coil if need be. I can interject another control stage between the coil board and the driver circuit for power or advanced logic. I can even add microprocessors if need be. I also can add another coil on the opposite side of the first coil from the circuit control.
I can add Marcos' coil in the mix too. Or anybodys.

Now comes the really cool part. I take small spools of wire any guage, any length. Slide them onto an iron, wooden, or plastic rod and connect them in series. That assembly slides into the center of the main driven coil. That will give a huge Tesla like rotating magnetic field. And when anyone of us finally accompishes the SM kick design, I then add that in. The power generation will be immense.

I want a self contained, portable, high powered Hutchison effect device. And why would anybody want that...

I believe and build feverishly... :o

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #833 on: September 29, 2006, 07:05:14 PM »
marcos,

it looks like your about to get a "kick"! 
watch out!

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #834 on: September 29, 2006, 07:10:18 PM »
OK, I just had a thought. Are we all chasing rabbits trying to measure the kick in the first place? Seems to be if the Kick phenomena(radiant flying off the surface of the wire at 90), is due to the "bunching effect", and electrons are not flowing through the full length of the wire we are measuring yet, but instead causing energy to leave the circuit at right angles... Wouldn't we have a VERY hard time measuring the kick on anything but the collectors? And even then, if the energy that we are trying to measure is radiant energy, is it measurable at all with std equipment?

This occured to me, as I've seen a few posts that were analyzing theoretical waveforms, trying to find kicks, etc., and I thought to myself, "is that even where kicks occur?"

Am I too far off base here? Am I making sense?

As we all have read in the mails Tao received from Mannic directly, SM confirmed the use of radiant energy  in the device.
Question is, is the 'kick' used to produce the radiant energy burst or is it the  burst of radiant energy itself?
When we assume the kick he is talking about is a burst of radiant energy then there is no way that it can be measured on the control coils. As Tesla states radiant energy only produces electricity when it passes through copper (or other metals). This means that it would only manifest itself on a collecter.....and not in the circuit that creates them. We might need a radiant energy receiver....
Is there anywhere or anyway to determine for sure if this kick we're looking for is either electric,magnetic or radiant??

What do all of you think?

regards Dutchy

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #835 on: September 29, 2006, 07:33:01 PM »
dutchy,

i think what is happening, "i think", is that  because of the fact that the magnetic field is being produced by current flowing around a loop there are some interesting things that are going to happen.  what is happening on the inside of the loop is fairly obvious, to some extent.  ther is obviously going to be a concentration of the magnetic field because of the space limitation of the diameter of the loop.  what is happening on the outside?

it is my theory that the magnetic field generated by the current traveling around the loop, on the outside does no travel to far before it breaks down to .5 gause and then is reflected back by the earths magnetic field. :o  then it gets bunched back up in the center of the loop or should i say loops.

just a thought, lol
sam

ps: tired of shuttinup shuttinup

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #836 on: September 29, 2006, 07:42:57 PM »
dutchy,

i think what is happening, "i think", is that  because of the fact that the magnetic field is being produced by current flowing around a loop there are some interesting things that are going to happen.  what is happening on the inside of the loop is fairly obvious, to some extent.  ther is obviously going to be a concentration of the magnetic field because of the space limitation of the diameter of the loop.  what is happening on the outside?


Sam,

There won't be much of a flux outside of the coil/loop. In every toroid shaped core (even aircore) 99% of the flux get 'trapped' inside the core and just gets dragged around in circles. This just standard toroid coil behaviour. As SM said we are looking for unconventional behaviour and as i posted before with the use of radiant energy.

regards Dutchy

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #837 on: September 29, 2006, 07:54:04 PM »
starcruiser,

i guess two control loops will work.  if you are going to run them out of phase, what do you mean?  are you thinking of turning say five winds on one side and six on the other?  i think if you do this you will have a transformer or a rectifier, just depends on which way you run your current.  lots to think about. ???

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #838 on: September 29, 2006, 08:03:10 PM »
dutchy,

it is my understandin and correct me if i'm wrong, but, the earths magnetic field is a form of rdiant energy.  and magnetic forces travel in a circular motion until an equal and opposite effect cause them to react.  what i was saying is theat the earths magnetic field is being touched and causing the action for the magnetic field to return to the inside of the toroid, where they are definately being bunched in a raio of 99 to 1.  traveling in to seperate vectors because of the fact that there are two currents traveling in different directions with obviously different frequencies. ;)

lol
sam

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« Reply #839 on: September 29, 2006, 08:16:20 PM »
Marco,

In order to calculate the frequency we need the period or time of one cycle (peak to peak or crossover to crossover). From the screen shot I canot see a complete cycle of the waveform and I am not sure of the scale of the grid nor the setting you used on the scope when capturing this so I cannot figure it out.

If you have this you can use the formula of frequency= 1/t , where t= time in seconds. the t variable uses the horizontal time setting of the scope in conjucntion with the grid on the scope, i.e. 20us per div, etc.. this would mean 20 micro seconds per grid. If you have a delta function on the scope you can measure this by highlighting the complete cycle of the waveform and this will tell you either the frequency directly or it will tell you the duration of the cycle, then you can use the formula to figure out the frequency of the waveform.

I hope I was clear on this, if not let me know and I will see if I can explain it further.

supersam,

I was thinking the control coils would be of the same number of turns but wound opposite to one another, in other words while you may wind one from left to right, looping the wire from the bottom over the top, the other would be from right to left starting the same way thus you have north facing north and south facing south. Thus the signals would be unity in amplitude but the phase angle would need to be off to prevent cancellation of the signals.

Just a thought that kind of coincides with giantkillers idea or counter rotating fields at similar or differing frequencies. I also goes along with what Stan Dayo was talking about with the ship he saw at area 51 (I think he said).

I really believe the torrid (rotating magnetic fields) is the answer to several questions relating to power generation as well as drive systems for space craft. Look at the various designs out there for motors and power systems that are brushing on the very same concept but from slightly different angles. pardon the pun.

regards,

Carl