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Author Topic: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION  (Read 37908 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #105 on: November 27, 2008, 04:45:29 AM »
No, I don't believe I ever said you wouldn't get around a curve. Why, I've done that myself, several times. JLNaudin has even gotten a 2-stage smot to climb 2 ramps consecutively. It's no big deal, and you don't get any prizes for that.

What's a little harder, as you are finding out, is to get the ball to go continuously, around and around...without Mr. Hand helping it along. If you can do that, there will be lots of prizes for you; and you won't need my paltry warbucks.

I know-- a strategically positioned electromagnet or two will help overcome that silly "wall."

You can have that one, for free.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #105 on: November 27, 2008, 04:45:29 AM »

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #106 on: November 27, 2008, 05:20:44 AM »
Hi Guys,

Try this if interested.  You might have to make more than 3 magnet spiral group segments. The magnet angles have to be EXACTLY CORRECT otherwise it wont work.

Also the correct side of the spiral magnet group must be used. The wrong side will not work. Ball attracts into the NORTH side.  Comes out the other side with no sticky spot if done correctly.   Clockwise rotation.   

Looks like a spiral galaxy or nebula.

Tom

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #107 on: November 27, 2008, 06:11:45 AM »
Tom, I bet it can make several turns if kick it hard :)…

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #107 on: November 27, 2008, 06:11:45 AM »
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #108 on: November 27, 2008, 03:04:08 PM »
 Here's a idea. use three arrays in the middle that are weaker then the outer arrays with the inner draw start starting at the end of the outer's draw and the inner's end draw stopping at the outer's draw start. Kind of like pictured.


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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #109 on: November 27, 2008, 03:51:18 PM »
Well, you've got the device.
Is there some problem with showing a video of it running continuously?
I'm sure, if you call them, the local news channel would be glad to send a crew out to videotape it for the news.
Because it would be news, if you got that "old" configuration to finally work.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #110 on: November 27, 2008, 06:47:41 PM »
Life could be very simple indeed.

There are so many threads on the forum these days that I never noticed the tin covering thread since the idea deserves very close attention. All you need is a small percentage of deviation on only half the north polarity to make this work. I will order some magnets and try it. I have an idea for a new design mag wheel that I have been mulling over a few weeks now with designs. May as well put it on the workbench. For me the answer is so easy when you know the mag field directionality. North out, in median void, out median void, in South, all from 360 degress around. You cannot have a better behaving field then a magnet. Always same power, always same sticky spot. No body cooking frequencies. Now that's what I call devotion. lol

Does any one know of a good place in North America to order magnets?

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2008, 08:10:32 PM »

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2008, 05:08:36 AM »
Life could be very simple indeed.

There are so many threads on the forum these days that I never noticed the tin covering thread since the idea deserves very close attention. All you need is a small percentage of deviation on only half the north polarity to make this work. I will order some magnets and try it. I have an idea for a new design mag wheel that I have been mulling over a few weeks now with designs. May as well put it on the workbench. For me the answer is so easy when you know the mag field directionality. North out, in median void, out median void, in South, all from 360 degress around. You cannot have a better behaving field then a magnet. Always same power, always same sticky spot. No body cooking frequencies. Now that's what I call devotion. lol

Does any one know of a good place in North America to order magnets?
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2008, 03:16:10 PM »
 Here's Tom's "magnetman12003" latest video. It shows that things are getting better.

http://www.youtube.com/user/64298

 

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2008, 03:16:10 PM »
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2008, 04:41:47 PM »
That does look better, I'll admit. Too bad it doesn't show the ball from a standing start. I've been trying to think of a way to start the ball in a repeatable way so the system can be compared with and without the "stator" magnets.
Keep up the good work, and don't let the "evil skeptics" get you down!
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2008, 05:08:13 PM »
Hi,

I did not show the ball rolling from a standing start else someone would say I finger pushed it which is not the case.

Tom.

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« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2008, 05:08:13 PM »
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2008, 07:17:40 PM »
I don’t think three arrays are the way to go when using one ball. I think four and or even numbered amounts would work best because odd numbers can not be divided in to even numbers equally. Meaning that we can not have a equal distance between each set. The total outer diameter would be 100% and odd numbers will not divide in to 100 evenly.

 The video did prove that the gates can be passed and that in it's self is a major accomplishment. Now we should be able to use a four ended rotor design like pictured. This would supply a three to one ratio with three out of four always being drawn while only one out of the four being in a dead zone.


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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2008, 07:36:17 PM »
Hi,

Thats a excellent idea.

The steel balls would need to be suspended by pivoting  rotor arms

Thinking more about this one could cement a clear plastic circular plug inside the circular track bottom and line magnet groupings on the UNDERSIDE of the circular track as well as the sides of the track. In a staggered configuration   Side- bottom-side- bottom- ect.  All resulting in a COMPLETELY circular but ---"OPEN LOOP"---

Tom

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« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2008, 07:58:30 PM »
 
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Thinking more about this one could cement a clear plastic circular plug inside the circular track bottom and line magnet groupings on the UNDERSIDE of the circular track as well as the sides of the track. In a staggered configuration   Side- bottom-side- bottom- ect.  All resulting in a COMPLETELY circular but ---"OPEN LOOP"---

 That would be worth trying out.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #119 on: November 28, 2008, 08:46:28 PM »
If the ball will continue rolling, continuously--clearly that would be enough to show overunity or perpetual performance.

Something tells me it still won't do that.

Neither will the rotor.

(By the way, Kohei Minato used an angle of 56 degrees for his angled magnets. Your motor now seems to be converging on a design similar to his (and also to the Steorn London Demo device)).

 

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