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Author Topic: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION  (Read 38643 times)

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2008, 04:30:03 AM »

 Are you serious? You mean to tell us that you did this and cant remember how you did it? It would be like the first time you had , a very unforgettable experience but yet you say you forgot?

 nightlife

 My father poo- pooed what I did for I was being a dreamer and I needed to think a real job because inventing was a waste of time. Unfortunately that is what I remember the most for under my father I could do no wright, and my older brother could do no wrong.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2008, 04:35:18 PM »
Hi,

 
This may work as both polaritys of the rotor are not on the same plane as the box track. In this case only the south polarity of the rotor is being powered by the track to move.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2008, 04:44:26 PM »
Hi,

I just have to ask this.

How many folks are in the process of actually building this setup to give it a try? It wont cost an arm and leg. Ceramics blocks are inexpensive.


Tom

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2008, 04:44:26 PM »
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2008, 04:52:01 PM »
Hi,

I just have to ask this.

How many folks are in the process of actually building this setup to give it a try? It wont cost an arm and leg. Ceramics blocks are inexpensive.


Tom

Greetings Tom

 I am doing it. I only need about a dozen more magnets. Besides this project may jog my memory.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2008, 05:32:02 PM »
 I have been trying to figure out the field you have created and I come to the conclusion that you have created a upward and downward spiraling cone like field like pictured which will not work with using permanent magnets for the rotor unless it is allowed to rise up a pole in a spiral motion and when it reaches it upward pressure limit it should bounce back and forth from the downward draw of gravity. If you apply a pressure from the top, the pressures will stop the rotors motion. If I am right, a three pole rotor should work and I would suggest having the spiraling rotor bounce up and down in side of a double wound coil to collect both current that would be created. The field will have to be strong enough to over come the initial gravitational draw back pressure. Another possibility would to have another box placed above one with the spiral effect rotating the opposite way. The rotor should then continue to turn but yet stay stationary within the upward and downward pressures. I would also suggest having one box’s corners placed over the centers of the rails so they are offset from each other.
 Your video proves what I am saying by the way the magnet spirals in a outward motion pushing the magnet up and out as it spirals.




 


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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2008, 06:19:38 PM »
Hi,

Interesting---It almost seems this is touching on the late David Hamels cone motor ideas.

Tom

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2008, 07:08:42 PM »
For those who want to know about David Hamels ideas.

http://www.davidhamel.com/index.html

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2008, 08:31:01 PM »
Man I hate this thread. LOL

 It keeps making me think it can work but then I think about it and it cant but then I different idea pops up in my head and I again think it may work but when I think about it more, I find it will not work.

 I give up, my head hurts. LOL

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2008, 05:39:28 AM »
Hi All,

You are going to like this:  This is an extra finding peculiar to this magnetic box design.

After lots of experimenting I found that placing a large steel ball inside the square rail box will propel it like a SMOT in a clockwise direction with a lot of force. I have placed on U tube only one section of the track rails and you can see for yourself what is happening on one INSIDE RAIL  The table the track rail is on is perfectly level..    Click  "SMOT"  on U tube.

I found the corner areas inside the magnetic box is where the stell ball stops but I plan to put 45 degree wood cuts there to deflect the steel ball into the next track. The ball will not travel in a circular form as it needs more straight track magnetic momentum to keep rolling.   The ball rolls on all four inside rails with a lot of force in a clockwIse direction. Wont roll back!     

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2008, 05:56:21 AM »
Tom, you need to copy and paste the links to your videos so others don't have to search for them. When you are on your videos page, copy the address that is in the address bar at the top of your screen and then paste it in your comment.

 Here is the link to the video Tom just mentioned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8lNEviCdsA


 I don’t think a 45 will work and you maybe better off with curve in the corners because I believe the field curves in the corners.

 Dang it, I am getting sucked back in again. LOL

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2008, 05:59:42 AM »
Won't roll all the way around, either!

(Don't get mad, just prove me wrong!!)

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2008, 06:12:36 AM »
TinselKoala, you maybe right but it sure is worth a try and one thing I noticed is that the longer the rail, the faster the ball gets and you may have to add to the rail to get the ball to move fast enough to go around the curve.

 Keep up the good work Tom, you definitely have my attention.

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« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2008, 06:27:36 AM »
Hi Nightlife,

I cut a perfect circle from an old plastic sewer pipe and it fits my box setup insides perfectly. When I placed the steel ball inside the circle it will roll a short way from where its closest to the track and looses power.

Now if you let that same ball roll straight aways on the track sides close to the magnet rail the ball goes fast. I figure a ball nees a little momentum to pass whatever smooth curve I place in the "ROUNDED CORNERS".   If I can do that sucessfully the ball will roll forever from side to side as long as magnetic power exists.  Right now the steel ball will roll each of the straight 4 inside rail sides with ease and-- no crossovers !

Say all was accomplished--- Of what commercial use could it be except a museum curiosity??

Tom

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« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2008, 06:39:50 AM »
 A magnet could be attached to four wheels and then a coil could be wrapped around the box and the magnetic movement would create a current in the coil that could be collected and stored in a battery. That is just one of many ways it could possibly be utilized.

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« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2008, 06:45:13 AM »
Well, if "all was accomplished" means that the ball goes around and around, all by itself, until you stop it--that would be perpetual motion, and it would be a successful SMOT, and it would win a lot of "free energy" awards and prizes, and could be the basis for a generator that really would free us from the tyranny of oil, and Archer Quinn could say, "I told you so", and Omnibus would be vindicated...

Does the term "fire 2.0" mean anything to you?

Why, if you get the ball to go around the square continuously without outside intervention I just might give you the thousand dollars that Archer couldn't win, back in the "20th of June" thread.

C'mon, it's a SMOT !!

 

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