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Author Topic: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION  (Read 37028 times)

Offline magnetman12003

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2008, 02:52:20 AM »
Hi,

I just used regular cheap masking tape.  First I cut a small block of wood at a 45degree angle to reference the first magnet on the track.

I glued that block on the track so it was very secure. Then I layed my first disk magnet on the wood block side at a 45 degree angle and taped it.  Every magnet after that was secured by a section of masking tape. I practiced this on a wood 12 inch ruler.  Found however there was some magnet shifting later so maybe taping is not the answer.

I like your idea about hot glueing.  I wonder how a PVC plastic tube will bond to hot glue and if I can stick ceramic magnets to the tube wall using hot glue. I noticed that hot glue when set is a little flexible and that might be ok in making a long curved run.

The hose setup you saw illustrated would have the magnets mounted on the "BOTTOM SIDE" so the ball would roll with ease all around the smooth inside bottom of the tube track "without touching the tube walls" Should buildup speed.

Just before the pont where the dropoff hole is I would snake the magnet track around onto a tube "WALL" side where the balls weight then would be to much for the wall to carry and the ball will fall through the drilled hole between the tubes. Starts its journey over again.  This looks like the most simplest inexpensive way to make a SMOT I could think of.

Whats your thoughts?

Tom

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2008, 02:52:20 AM »

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2008, 03:08:36 AM »
 I had thought about using a clear tube too but I am thinking of a different way right now although I still think it is a good idea. I am not sure if you are going to get the ball to drop because I have not had any luck yet but that doesn't mean it cant be done. I also think you are ending your array in the design to close to the start. The closer you get to closing the loop, the more over all magnetic pole effect you get which then makes the ball stop in the middles because the ball seeks the end and in a loop, there are two starts and two ends. Middles, LOL
 
  I have to do some more testing which means more arrays which means more frustration, damn it! LOL

 I'll post some more results later tonight or tomorrow depending on how much I can get done tonight.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2008, 04:42:26 AM »
So what happened to the square magnetic rail that started this thread? I thought that was sure to work. Now the design has changed into the garden-hose tube SMOT?
Isn't this very like the Archer Quinn thread? A promised design is abandoned, while we watch someone learn about magnets, and the "sure to work" design keeps changing?

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2008, 04:42:26 AM »
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2008, 06:31:00 AM »
TinselKoala, Toms main concept is still in play here and that is the arrangement of the magnets and who knows, we still may use the square magnetic rail before it's over.

 We are all still in the designing stage and if you have any idea's, please state them.

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2008, 04:16:04 PM »
Tom, here is a concept that may work with your square and it may be able to get the ball to go all the way around. It can be thought of as closing the loop but I think having the corner magnets weaker may prove to be what is needed.



 

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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2008, 03:42:35 PM »
Hi Guys,
While we are thinking about this go back to reply 26 and look at the box track video again. Especially the repel portion of the video. where I had the end of a long stacked rod inside the box track.

Something hit me last night and I have to draw it out to show you.  I finally believe that this simple idea will work as now we will have GRAVITY working for us.

Say you were balancing a long pole on the end of your finger at a given height off the floor.. Now the top of the pole starts to fall away from you. Without changing the height you were holding the pole off the floor how would you try to regain balance once more?  By chasing it--Thats how.


Now figure we had a two or three arm rotor with "one each" long stacked magnet rod hanging from all arms and free to rotate on the arm.
The rotor arms would spread out due to box track repel and the top of the rods ( weight) will lean into the rotor arms causing them to turn by gravity assist.  I am going to give this a try also.

Tom


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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2008, 04:47:04 PM »
Hi Guys,
While we are thinking about this go back to reply 26 and look at the box track video again. Especially the repel portion of the video. where I had the end of a long stacked rod inside the box track.

Something hit me last night and I have to draw it out to show you.  I finally believe that this simple idea will work as now we will have GRAVITY working for us.

Say you were balancing a long pole on the end of your finger at a given height off the floor.. Now the top of the pole starts to fall away from you. Without changing the height you were holding the pole off the floor how would you try to regain balance once more?  By chasing it--Thats how.


Now figure we had a two or three arm rotor with "one each" long stacked magnet rod hanging from all arms and free to rotate (hinged) on the arm.
The rotor arms would spread out due to box track repel and the top of the rods ( weight) will lean into the rotor arms causing them to turn by gravity assist.  I am going to give this a try also.

Tom



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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2008, 07:27:19 PM »
@magnetman

You are spreading yourself too much. Stick to one model.
I thought you got it all planned.

Jesus

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2008, 07:35:03 PM »
Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda
You'll come a-waltzing, Matilda, with me...
and he sang this song
as he walked along the billabong...
You'll come a-waltzing, Matilda, with me...

Those who do not remember history, are condemned to repeat it...

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2008, 08:59:29 PM »
@magnetman

You are spreading yourself too much. Stick to one model.
I thought you got it all planned.

Jesus

 I am and making use of anything the magnetic box rail setup might be capable of doing.  Take away the corners problem and a SMOT could be developed.  I am doing that also.

In the meantime I am also going with what is stated above. Simple to try -- IF you have already made a magnetic box rail track like I know LIGHT  has done.  NIGHTLIFE is working on the SMOT idea also. Hs anyone else started on this or waiting out results from others?

Tom.
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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2008, 10:10:18 PM »
@magnetman

I have been trying to start the project but it changes a lot. It reminded me juan moran's game at the other thread.

Jesus

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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #86 on: November 23, 2008, 04:22:57 PM »
 I just cant do it captain, the almighty powers will not let it happen.

                                 :-\

 It's back to the Bedini for me.


 When playing with the field you are actually playing with heaven and hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZePQxqrL2t4

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« Reply #87 on: November 24, 2008, 02:35:58 PM »
 I seen this picture on another thread and I thought I would post it here for others to look at.


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Re: A SQUARE MAGNETIC RAIL -- ROTOR 360 ROTATION
« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2008, 09:46:26 PM »

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« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2008, 10:20:38 PM »
Hi Oc, have you used it for anything yet? If so, how did it work for you?

 

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