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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 2231900 times)

ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2625 on: February 14, 2015, 10:14:00 PM »
The fixed vs moving varies depending on placement and spring constant.

It certainly would be easier to have a fixed frame.

And Chas Campbell had a fixed frame wheel, balanced I believe, or the eccentric was well hidden. He also had a bouncing wheel that landed on the ''squeeze wheel''

I did an observationnal anaylsis of the Chas Campbell in this video, see the jpeg file attached in the comment section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb_PQ32tMQ0
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noonespecial

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2626 on: February 14, 2015, 11:21:44 PM »
I couldn't get your filedropper page to load???
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ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2627 on: February 15, 2015, 12:34:07 AM »
no, the mediafire works.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2628 on: February 15, 2015, 12:39:32 AM »
I shall modify the Chas Campbell device according to the Lead-out Energy Theory.
 
I believe that he got his device via tinkering.  He could have produced the unbalancing effect via poor machining or belt shaking.
 
The attached diagram shows the possible modification.  The important part is actually the Unbalanced Wheel or Cylinder mounted vertically.
 
The configuration is then closer to the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier...
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ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2629 on: February 15, 2015, 12:51:48 AM »
It seems pretty deliberate to me, since he releases the holder.

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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2630 on: February 15, 2015, 03:38:33 AM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:32 AM
I shall modify the Chas Campbell device according to the Lead-out Energy Theory.
 
I believe that he got his device via tinkering.  He could have produced the unbalancing effect via poor machining or belt shaking.
 
The attached diagram shows the possible modification.  The important part is actually the Unbalanced Wheel or Cylinder mounted vertically.
 
The configuration is then closer to the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier...

I am going to take a shot on specifying the Unbalanced Cylinder.  The outer diameter will be 30 cm.  The cylinder height will be 20 cm.  The total weight will be 10 Kg.  The unbalanced bar will be 2 kg.
 
I do not have any magic formula yet.  The above suggestion is "a shot in the dark". 
 
Morality Point:
 
When the theory cannot predict the exact dimensions, spend resources on experiments.  Every experiment will provide more data.  If every step in the dark is charted, even the blind will find the way...
 
The "state secrets" of China and USA may already have all the data.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2631 on: February 15, 2015, 04:08:03 AM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:32 AM
The important part is actually the Unbalanced Wheel or Cylinder mounted vertically.
 
The configuration is then closer to the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier...

Why do you say that it must be mounted vertically? Is there some reason why horizontally mounted wouldn't work? Just curious.
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2632 on: February 15, 2015, 06:43:54 AM »
Why do you say that it must be mounted vertically? Is there some reason why horizontally mounted wouldn't work? Just curious.
 
For pure gravitational lead-out energy devices, the oscillation comes from the jumping effect.  Or we can think of the Centrifugal force in an Unbalanced Wheel.  That force will change the effective force downwards simulating the jumping action.
 
If mounted horizontally, the centrifugal force will be horizontal and no jumping action will result.
 
(The Liang car was reported to lose power rapidly going up an incline.)
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2633 on: February 15, 2015, 06:30:20 PM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 15, 2015, 06:43:54 AM
Why do you say that it must be mounted vertically? Is there some reason why horizontally mounted wouldn't work? Just curious.
 
For pure gravitational lead-out energy devices, the oscillation comes from the jumping effect.  Or we can think of the Centrifugal force in an Unbalanced Wheel.  That force will change the effective force downwards simulating the jumping action.
 
If mounted horizontally, the centrifugal force will be horizontal and no jumping action will result.
 
(The Liang car was reported to lose power rapidly going up an incline.)

I guess that's where my confusion come in. If these cylinders are mounted in fixed bearings, where will the 'jumping action' come from?
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2634 on: February 15, 2015, 10:44:46 PM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:32 AM
I shall modify the Chas Campbell device according to the Lead-out Energy Theory.
 
I believe that he got his device via tinkering.  He could have produced the unbalancing effect via poor machining or belt shaking.
 
The attached diagram shows the possible modification.  The important part is actually the Unbalanced Wheel or Cylinder mounted vertically.
 
The configuration is then closer to the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier...
This is what you try to accomplish:
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2635 on: February 15, 2015, 10:52:54 PM »
Quote from: noonespecial on February 15, 2015, 06:30:20 PM
I guess that's where my confusion come in. If these cylinders are mounted in fixed bearings, where will the 'jumping action' come from?

Must the cylinders be mounted in fixed bearings? Is it possible for the belt or chain mechanism to introduce some room for vibration or oscillation?
 
If such oscillations lead-out gravitational energy, can the Tsinghua University energy multiplier or Chas Campbell setup transfer such lead-out energy to the Generator (keeping the amplitude of such oscillations very low)?
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2636 on: February 15, 2015, 10:55:43 PM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 15, 2015, 10:52:54 PM

Must the cylinders be mounted in fixed bearings? Is it possible for the belt or chain mechanism to introduce some room for vibration or oscillation?
 
If such oscillations lead-out gravitational energy, can the Tsinghua University energy multiplier or Chas Campbell setup transfer such lead-out energy to the Generator (keeping the amplitude of such oscillations very low)?

Lawrence:

But the Chas Campbell device did not work when Mark D. went to evaluate it?  You are speaking as if it did indeed work.  If you have other information to this effect, please let us know.

Bill
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2637 on: February 15, 2015, 10:58:41 PM »
Quote from: Low-Q on February 15, 2015, 10:44:46 PM
This is what you try to accomplish:

NO.  I want to lead-out gravitational energy via the unbalanced cylinder.  I want to use standard, commercially available motors and generators.  The equation is
 
Eout = Ein + (Egravity - Eloss)
 
I want to get a large amount of Egravity via the fast rotating unbalanced cylinder.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2638 on: February 15, 2015, 11:05:26 PM »
Quote from: ltseung888 on February 15, 2015, 10:58:41 PM

NO.  I want to lead-out gravitational energy via the unbalanced cylinder.  I want to use standard, commercially available motors and generators.  The equation is
 
Eout = Ein + (Egravity - Eloss)
 
I want to get a large amount of Egravity via the fast rotating unbalanced cylinder.

But Lawrence, the unbalanced cylinder will have the effect of needing more energy to rotate until the heavy point reaches 12:00, and then you can get "extra" energy as it rotates beyond this point.  However, you will not get more energy than it took to rotate the unbalanced cylinder to the 12:00 position...less due to friction.

How is this a way to "lead out" free energy due to gravity?

Bill
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2639 on: February 15, 2015, 11:17:50 PM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 15, 2015, 10:55:43 PM
Lawrence:

But the Chas Campbell device did not work when Mark D. went to evaluate it?  You are speaking as if it did indeed work.  If you have other information to this effect, please let us know.

Bill

I do not think that Mark D or Chas Campbell understood the lead-out energy theory.  They might even tried to "do better engineering" and eliminated the "unbalancing".
 
A group in Hong Kong did exactly that.  I had to tell them to re-introduce bad engineering and do the unbalancing...  They did not talk to me again.
 
Tsinghua University did the right thing.  That might be the "state secret" that ended me in trouble 8 years ago.  Now many others "found" the secret by "tinkering".  There is no point in keeping the "state secret".
 
(Lee Cheung Kin told me repeatedly that what I am doing is kindergarden work compared with what has been developed in the Military Establishments in China. He never told me what was achieved there but he was right.)
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