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ramset

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2670 on: February 19, 2015, 09:18:33 PM »

ArmCortex
has your crew investigated this one?

http://www.universalengines.com.au/

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2671 on: February 20, 2015, 12:18:02 AM »
ArmCortex
has your crew investigated this one?

http://www.universalengines.com.au/

Dear ramset,
 
Thank you for bringing the universal engine to our attention.  I believe the correct explanation is leading-out gravitational energy via the unbalanced set up mounted in the vertical direction.
 
They tried to explain the excess of energy as coming from centripetal or centrifugal force.  By itself, with no external energy flowing in, the Law of Conservation of of Energy will be violated.  The academics and advisors to Investors will dismiss it.  However, if they change their explanation...
 
Personally, I find their set up somewhat complicated.  They have the advantage of having a working, demonstrated prototype now.  The fact that it is patent pending shows that it is new.
 
Do you know when they announced it?

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2672 on: February 20, 2015, 12:34:23 AM »
More design considerations.

ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2673 on: February 20, 2015, 12:45:31 AM »
I dont believe that the universal engine works.

First of all, nobody has replicated it yet, they have never showed it working.

Secondly, they give us all secrets of the device exept evidence that it is in fact working as claimed.

They dont seem to have gone into full production, wich is bizarre. The cost of that machine alone would be extremely high and eat all the budget

I'm more interrested in Flywheel devices shown in palladium investment video.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2674 on: February 20, 2015, 01:09:37 AM »
More design improvements.
 
I already have 4 bicycle wheels and plenty of lead weights.
 
For proof of concept purposes, the cost of the experiment can be lowered to less than HKD10,000.  There may be no need to pay HKD300,000 for use of University facilities.
 
There may be no need to talk to millionaires or billionaires until the experiment is successful.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2675 on: February 20, 2015, 04:16:01 AM »
Keep in mind that a 'loose' belt is only required to start the machine and has no bearing on its actual running.

This is according to Chas Campbell as mentioned in his video that I shared back in response #2663.

By the way, here's a very similar concept to the one you are proposing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFHkZ4iRo78

Best regards,
Charlie

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2676 on: February 20, 2015, 05:42:42 AM »
The 2 min video you refer to says that the belt absorbs the shock so as not to break anything and only a part of the device is talked about.

Do you agree that the wheel is released and is freefloating?

What is the causing of all that shaking?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2677 on: February 20, 2015, 06:02:16 AM »
The 2 min video you refer to says that the belt absorbs the shock so as not to break anything and only a part of the device is talked about.

Are you talking about the Chas Campbell video? Near the end of the video, one other person is talking and says that he could just as easily use a variable frequency generator to control the start of the machine rather than have the belts loose. He shows the crank that he uses to apply tension to the belt once it is up and running. He also mentions that the pulley would slip in the belt if it wasn't loose because the initial load is too great.

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Do you agree that the wheel is released and is freefloating?

What wheel? If you mean the flywheel, then no, I don't agree.

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What is the causing of all that shaking?

Are you now talking about the other video? I'm confused....

ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2678 on: February 20, 2015, 06:18:19 AM »
Yes I am talking about the 2 minute video of Chas and the 2 other guys.

The VFD is only a proposal wich Chas cares nothing about, he seems to not care for those guys at all.

Basicly, that video says very little, in fact the device is mostly disassembled.

I wonder why this is all that was shown.

I am talking about the wheel that gets released by the holder, it is freefloating.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2679 on: February 20, 2015, 08:21:19 AM »
Keep in mind that a 'loose' belt is only required to start the machine and has no bearing on its actual running.

This is according to Chas Campbell as mentioned in his video that I shared back in response #2663.

By the way, here's a very similar concept to the one you are proposing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFHkZ4iRo78

Best regards,
Charlie

Since I do not read Russian, I cannot cofirm for sure.  But I did see a drill and two small "gravity arms".  I could not determine how he used the lead-out gravitational energy.
 
Can you please elaborate?
 
Such videos help to provide me with more confidence that the experiment will be a success.

noonespecial

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2680 on: February 20, 2015, 06:14:50 PM »

Since I do not read Russian, I cannot cofirm for sure.  But I did see a drill and two small "gravity arms".  I could not determine how he used the lead-out gravitational energy.
 
Can you please elaborate?
 
Such videos help to provide me with more confidence that the experiment will be a success.

This is a full rotation type of two-stage oscillator. The drill drives the first unbalanced weight which is mounted on a common platform with an un-driven second unbalanced weight. The platform is cantilevered and supported by a heavy compression spring that provides the 'bounce' to induce rotation/oscillation in the second unbalanced weight.

He attempts to show a 'load' by pressing a section of hose against the drive-train. Near the end, the induced rotation falls out of resonance and he cuts off the power.

The problem at the end is what I have seen in my experiments as well. You can induce a secondary oscillation as long as you remain within a resonance 'window'. Once your load exceeds this window, the secondary oscillation falls apart.

I only meant to show that your experiment is similar but superior because there is no two stage oscillation.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2681 on: February 20, 2015, 08:47:56 PM »
Yes I am talking about the 2 minute video of Chas and the 2 other guys.

The VFD is only a proposal wich Chas cares nothing about, he seems to not care for those guys at all.

Basicly, that video says very little, in fact the device is mostly disassembled.

I wonder why this is all that was shown.

I am talking about the wheel that gets released by the holder, it is freefloating.

Here's the dialogue:

2:41 Charles: "I can get it (the motor) to spin in the belt as you've seen it without doing any damage to the motor. Well I'm not actually doing damage but I don't want the motor overloading while I'm trying to build it up."

2:57 Second person: "What we can also do is have permanent tension on there and use a VFD."

3:05 Charles: "Yes, there are probably better ways of doing it...the easiest way for me to do it (start the device) was to have loose belts...that doesn't mean to say..."

(Second person): "and that's the clutch there?..

Charles: "Then I just wind up this little thingy and this a purely a guide so that it tries to come up straight plus a spring to put a bit of tension because I don't want it to tip over once I get the pulleys right."

Its clear to me that the loose belts only serve to be able to start the entire machine. Otherwise, he would burn out the motor because the initial load is too great.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2682 on: February 20, 2015, 08:59:22 PM »
This is a full rotation type of two-stage oscillator. The drill drives the first unbalanced weight which is mounted on a common platform with an un-driven second unbalanced weight. The platform is cantilevered and supported by a heavy compression spring that provides the 'bounce' to induce rotation/oscillation in the second unbalanced weight.

He attempts to show a 'load' by pressing a section of hose against the drive-train. Near the end, the induced rotation falls out of resonance and he cuts off the power.

The problem at the end is what I have seen in my experiments as well. You can induce a secondary oscillation as long as you remain within a resonance 'window'. Once your load exceeds this window, the secondary oscillation falls apart.

I only meant to show that your experiment is similar but superior because there is no two stage oscillation.

Thank you for the explanation.  I have looked at the universal engine video multiple times.
http://www.universalengines.com.au/
 
I like the name "universal engine".  Their mechanism is far too complicated.  The Tsinghua Unbalanced Cylinder is far superior.  The unbalanced weight is inside the cylinder and would not flying out.
 
The Unbalanced Cylinder is the Universal Engine.  That is the State Secret of China.
 
Now I think I know why I was suspected as a spy in 2006.  The technology is extremely powerful but simple.  Any developing nation can master it.
 
The Unbalanced Cylinder can be scaled up and down to lead-out gravitational energy.  This is only the beginning.  Leading-out magnetic and electromagnetic energy follows.  The Military of China and USA both realized its potential.
 
Lee Cheung Kin is right.  I am only a kindergardener compared with the Establishments.
 
The magic is revealed.  The Unbalanced Cylinder can be a Universal Engine.  Gravitational Energy can be lead-out in the simple motor-cylinder-generator arrangement.  Patents are not allowed because it is a state secret.
 
But any small nation can come out with Unbalanced Cylinders as add-on products...

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2683 on: February 20, 2015, 09:09:58 PM »
Here's the dialogue:

2:41 Charles: "I can get it (the motor) to spin in the belt as you've seen it without doing any damage to the motor. Well I'm not actually doing damage but I don't want the motor overloading while I'm trying to build it up."

2:57 Second person: "What we can also do is have permanent tension on there and use a VFD."

3:05 Charles: "Yes, there are probably better ways of doing it...the easiest way for me to do it (start the device) was to have loose belts...that doesn't mean to say..."

(Second person): "and that's the clutch there?..

Charles: "Then I just wind up this little thingy and this a purely a guide so that it tries to come up straight plus a spring to put a bit of tension because I don't want it to tip over once I get the pulleys right."

Its clear to me that the loose belts only serve to be able to start the entire machine. Otherwise, he would burn out the motor because the initial load is too great.

I agree. The Tsinghua Energy Multiplier may have similar mechanisms.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2684 on: February 21, 2015, 12:40:42 AM »
Another more general design for the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier.
 
Unbalanced Cylinder acts as Universal Engine Enhancer.
 
Many machines can use this design to bring-in gravitational energy as the source of Power.
 
However, the more compact designs will bring-in magnetic or electromagnetic energy.