Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system ! (Read 2231725 times)

spinn_MP · « **Reply #1590 on:** February 05, 2011, 12:33:30 PM »

Quote from: tagor on February 05, 2011, 12:18:26 PM

look at this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uVzsfRJGlk&feature=player_embedded#

every gravity system run , with input power , until it definitely stop : no more input power

Yes, an AD~850 device is just the right thing...

This concept even supersedes the "Villard's hammered wheel", by a few hundred years...
(check out that site - the "Museum of the unworkable devices"...)

Omnibus · « **Reply #1591 on:** February 05, 2011, 06:03:37 PM »

Quote from: tagor on February 05, 2011, 12:18:26 PM

look at this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uVzsfRJGlk&feature=player_embedded#

every gravity system run , with input power , until it definitely stop : no more input power

Well, I looked at this one and I didn't see it definitely stopped.

tagor · « **Reply #1592 on:** February 06, 2011, 08:58:22 AM »

Quote from: Omnibus on February 05, 2011, 06:03:37 PM

Well, I looked at this one and I didn't see it definitely stopped.

look at this one , really nice , but not working

http://cherrytree.free.fr/pages/aldo/0-16/videos.html

Omnibus · « **Reply #1593 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:38:40 PM »

Quote from: tagor on February 06, 2011, 08:58:22 AM

look at this one , really nice , but not working

http://cherrytree.free.fr/pages/aldo/0-16/videos.html

Well, you say it doesn't work but it appears it does judging from the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qbyDMmEjq8 . Can't get what he says, though.

tagor · « **Reply #1594 on:** February 06, 2011, 06:05:39 PM »

Quote from: Omnibus on February 06, 2011, 02:38:40 PM

Well, you say it doesn't work but it appears it does judging from the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qbyDMmEjq8 . Can't get what he says, though.

he is saying that it works ... it looks like running ... but is it real ?

if you speak to him seriouly , after many many hours ... asking and asking ...
is it running permanently ?

this man say me that the wheel stop after half turn !!

fletcher · « **Reply #1595 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:54:00 PM »

Quote from: tagor on February 05, 2011, 12:18:26 PM

look at this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uVzsfRJGlk&feature=player_embedded#

every gravity system run , with input power , until it definitely stop : no more input power

I'd say that the little black vanes are an absolute necessity [not for mass] - so that air pressure can be directed down on them from the roof out of sight - the air current does work on the vanes causing torque on the down going side of the wheel & it revolves slowly.

It could not self sustain its rotation with gravity alone.

Omnibus · « **Reply #1596 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:36:13 PM »

Quote from: fletcher on February 06, 2011, 09:54:00 PM

I'd say that the little black vanes are an absolute necessity [not for mass] - so that air pressure can be directed down on them from the roof out of sight - the air current does work on the vanes causing torque on the down going side of the wheel & it revolves slowly.

It could not self sustain its rotation with gravity alone.

Yeah, that's the usual speculation but it can't explain away the production of excess energy in gravity wheels such as this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ02MjqBk7s&feature=youtube_gdata_player , self-sustaining or not.

Low-Q · « **Reply #1597 on:** February 06, 2011, 11:36:05 PM »

There is no excess energy in that gravity wheel, Omnibus. Excess energy must be that the energy comes from nowhere. The energy applied to this wheel are done by aligning the weights in inbalance in advace by using one-way bearings. So the hand puts energy into the system in advance - therefor it appears to be excess energy when it starts running. So there is no excess energy to be explained at all, so to speak.

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Omnibus · « **Reply #1598 on:** February 06, 2011, 11:55:29 PM »

Thermodynamics never takes into account the energy put in to build a machine. The energy balance in thermodynamics is always done from the moment there is a machine available on. In this case the work of the machine starts from standstill. At that standstill the machine has certain gravitational potential energy, as a, say, ball has when sitting on a table with respect to the floor. In the case of a ball on a table, once it's let go towards the floor it can never recover the initial potential energy due to losses and never reaches the height of the table on its own. In this case the construction more than recovers the initially put in energy thus prodicing excess energy ("energy out of nothing", as it were).

Low-Q · « **Reply #1599 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:19:04 AM »

We have a quite different view on what are determined as excess energy. What I see is a hand that use energy in advance to align the weights into an unbalanced alignment - the weights as wee see it is initially pointing towards the right because the one-way bearings doesnt allow the "pendulums" to move clockwise. This potential are applied by the hand so the wheel can start rotating. The inventor could most likely have fixed weights on the wheel, and pushed the wheel so it starts to spin, couldn't he? The wheel stops after a while, and I see this as an equivalent to drop a bouncing ball into a concrete floor, and the ball will continue to bounce untill all kinetic energy are converted into heat. This applies to the wheel as well - except it rotates, and are not bouncing. The wheel stops after it has spend all that applied energy, and converted it into heat via friction. No excess energy there I'm afraid.

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Omnibus · « **Reply #1600 on:** February 07, 2011, 01:10:57 PM »

No, that's incorrect.

Merg · « **Reply #1601 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:44:11 PM »

from YouTube...

Milkovic 2 stage oscillator Bedini powered
The Bedini coil pushes on the pendulum of the Milkovic 2 stage mechanical oscillator. the Bedini coil was first used on a "standard" Bedini setup. it was found to start very easily which lead me to think this might work. We have apparently combined two so called free energy devices
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVCvP53Au60

Omnibus · « **Reply #1602 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:52:02 PM »

Not clear at all how this works.

Low-Q · « **Reply #1603 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:29:07 PM »

Quote from: Omnibus on February 07, 2011, 01:10:57 PM

No, that's incorrect.

OK.
Btw., are you familiar with this situation? It is anyways a good description about how we at overunity.com works against the well established "truth" about physics. Needless to say, but we are suppose to be the salmon...

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Omnibus · « **Reply #1604 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:58:31 PM »

So that vid isn't showing a self-sustaining device but something which powers externally whatever you call a "Bedinin coil", right? The goal, however, is to build a self-sustaining device, nothing short of it. The double pendulums in their different renditions (Milkovic, Dmitriyev etc.) are OU devices. Where is the self-sustaining system based on these devices, though?

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