@spinn,
 What's wrong, You don't like it when someone tells you how it is? What I don't understand is why do you come to this forum? Obviously, you seem to be a knowlegdable person. But critisizing Ray's work? who are you trying to impress? Maybe Ray hasn' t proven overunity. I will say that Ray has proven something to me though, that he is A man with vision and integrity, not afraid to share his successes and failures. He provides inpiration to many, while you only seem to share your negativity.I didn't even like ray's stuff when I first saw it, but now I have much respect for him. He spent plenty of his time to help me with my project, and even sent me welding supplies without asking for so much as a penny! Ray is the type of person the free energy community needs, and for you to act like he's some kind of idiot, just shows your own ignorance. If you didn't spend all of the time you spend critisizing people and calling them retards, and had a better attitude, you would be a benefit to progress. But it seems like you just want to act like a spoiled teenager. Think about it.

...news from veljkomilkovic.com:

new article by Veljko Milkovic

Efficiency of Rotor with Eccentric Mass with Small or Greater Speeds
Because idea of eccentric rotor was accepted by great number of researchers in last years, we
are proposing following supplement: to reinvestigate horizontal rotation in cases of greater speeds as
well as usage of ceramic bearings...

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Veljko_Milkovic_Efficiency_of_Rotor_with_Eccentric_Mass.pdf

It seems like you get more of a slingshot with the unbalanced rotor in a tsmo setup. Even at low rpms. checkout Mjones7947 bouncer. I'm not sure if you can get the same effect he does with a balanced rotor, but it would be interesting to see. On Phun a simulation would be easy, i'll have to check it out. That is just a simulation though, nothing like building one to find out.

 This is great work, interesting notice -Efficiency of Rotor with Eccentric Mass with Small or Greater Speeds!
I would like to read more of your work!

Check out these bouncer videos@
 
 http://www.youtube.com/user/mjones7947
 
 These will give you a better idea, Milkovik also explains it in some his videos. It has to do with conservation of angular momentum and elliptical orbits. Here is some more good reading;
 
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Von_Braun.htm
 
Hope this helps.
 

Ok this might be a little premature but here goes.

For any of you that are serious into researching the free energy ideas... and there are many out there. Some are scams some are viable ideas but have no attempts to provide details and are of no real value for those of us with aspirations of debunking/proving any of these ideas. Others are very good in the information they provide but sometimes are so complex that most of us can't begin to try and duplicate them for financial reasons as well as our own limits that each of us has as far as our ability to work with the scientific side of things... mainly math.

The ideas out there that can be duplicated easily and modified to obtain new data are great. The Milkovic device is just one of those device. Lots of information and a very simple device that anyone can duplicate and modify to throw in their own ideas.

For any of you out there that have read about the Bessler wheel... Bessler aka. Orffyreus... you will find that as much as could be done during the times to place some credibility for this device. It's too bad that Bessler wanted finacial gain for his device rather than just being open source for the benefit of mankind. One scientist of the times was allowed to view inside the Bessler wheel and his response was that it was so simple that an adolescent could build one.

That idea cries to the fact that maybe we are trying too hard to be too high tech when we really need to go back to basics. Many people make the most absurd comments about the laws of this and that and that it could not be true or that it is impossible.... based of course on the laws that they presume are correct.

Below is an example of just such a law as well as my personal view on why it is not correct.

For every action there is a an equal and opposite reaction!

My personal thought is that for every action there could be any number of reactions and those combined reactions are the net energy that comprises the universe. That energy does two things.

1. If uncontrolled... radiates out from its center point in all directions, or in some cases in a linear manner

2. if properly confined and directed to channel as much of the energy in a manner that allows work to be done.

We burn gasoline in an engine where it is confined and released in a manner that allows us to do work. The heat on the other hand... much of it is lost parasitically, as is vibration and sound.

The heat, the expansion of burned gasses, the vibrations, the sound are the reactions that are derived from burning a fuel and each in their own is not an equal reaction to the total energy released but when comprised as a whole they are the sum of the total energy potential from the initial action.

The key to energy sustainability lies in harnessing all the reactions in a more complete system or by lessening the energies in some reactions so that other reactions may be augmented.

Now that might be a little vague in some ways and certainly you can't prove it mathematically but it seems to me to be more realistic that Newtons Law as it is written.

Now with all that babbling out of the way I will tell you about what I am doing to further the cause of cheap energy. I have taken the principles in the Milkovic device and added a few of my own Ideas and worked with the ideas of keeping things as simple as possible.

I want to give all of you a description of what I have done to this point but if I were to describe it too much...you would completely figure it out... it is really that simple. Now I'm not going to be looking for money so I will not advertise this. When I prove in my testing that I have a self runner using gravity as the fuel I will apply for a patent simply to protect it from large corporate enterprise and government from shelving it. When that is done I will release it for everyone to see.

I will tell you this though!

My device is nearing completion of the construction side of things. The computer simulations and the math side of thing have been worked out and there does not appear to be anything negative. One thing that many who are working with the same concept are trying to come up with ideas on how to make a pendulum keep swinging. I looked at things a little different and thought that since a pendulum ultimately comes to a stop why try to keep it in motion permanently because in reality trying to impart the energy necessary to do that is rather difficult because if you try to connect something to do that then your pendulum is not simply a pendulum anymore, and by adding energy either directly or by striking something to input the necessary energy you have a situation where there are parasitic losses and unwanted vibrations. What I have done is stop the pendulum after one single back and forth stroke at the highest position it has reached minus the loss to friction during that stroke. Since the pendulum is the single most efficient machine that exists... All I have to do now is compensate for the losses to friction and force the stopped pendulum up to it's initial start position... Much like Milkovic does by pushing the pendulum with his hand to compensate for those losses. There is a feedback mechanism I have designed to do this and at this point I can't tell you this part. The other thing that I have done is make use of hydraulics to transfer the output of energy to another area that is necessary to keep the timing of things. If you could imagine a musician's metronome used to keep timing, that is what I have used although it is a variant of the metronome as we know it... A metronome triggered by hydraulic input which then triggers another event through a mechanical linkage. I'll bet that not many would think initially of a metronome as an inverted pendulum?

That is all I can say at this time as far as description goes. I am so sure of this device being 100 percent a self runner that is why I am tight lipped at this point. It is much like the Bessler wheel's description... so simple, almost anyone can build it.

I apologize beforehand for any of you out there that want to complain about the length of this and for those I'm sure that will have to comment about this whole thing contradicting my statement above about not making as much information available so people can work with it.

And to all of you out there that are doing your thing to find the answers the world needs... Keep it up!

I will keep you all informed as to when I am up and running...

"It's too bad that Bessler wanted finacial gain for his device rather than just being open source
 for the benefit of mankind."

I assume you contribute your weekly/monthly wage to charity?

Actually no I don't but I was a millionaire at eighteen and gave it all away to help those in need and also so I could just life the life of a simple man... not   putting myself above others. I spent five years living a zero carbon life to prove to others in my community that there are ways to live life and still have most of the benefits that we expect in today's culture... all it takes is  little more work, but it is unfortunate that so many people would rather work a job to make others wealthy rather that work for their own good and piece of mind. I've done more in my life than the everyday average person.

...news from veljkomilkovic.com:


Veljko Milkovic -- Planet in danger, civilization on test

Planet Earth can be compared to balloon continuously kept pumping until at the end it explodes. Exactly that is happening by using dirty technologies and frantic investing in armament...
Such a state can not last eternally and here two roads exist:...

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Veljko_Milkovic_Planet_in_danger_civilization_on_test.pdf