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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 2237977 times)

andrea

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1575 on: January 03, 2011, 08:15:14 PM »
Quote from: mdlarouche on December 31, 2010, 04:46:15 AM
I looked at things a little different and thought that since a pendulum ultimately comes to a stop why try to keep it in motion permanently because in reality trying to impart the energy necessary to do that is rather difficult because if you try to connect something to do that then your pendulum is not simply a pendulum anymore, and by adding energy either directly or by striking something to input the necessary energy you have a situation where there are parasitic losses and unwanted vibrations. What I have done is stop the pendulum after one single back and forth stroke at the highest position it has reached minus the loss to friction during that stroke. Since the pendulum is the single most efficient machine that exists... All I have to do now is compensate for the losses to friction and force the stopped pendulum up to it's initial start position... Much like Milkovic does by pushing the pendulum with his hand to compensate for those losses. There is a feedback mechanism I have designed to do this and at this point I can't tell you this part. The other thing that I have done is make use of hydraulics to transfer the output of energy to another area that is necessary to keep the timing of things.

I too think that the realization of a feedback mechanism for maintaining the pendulum moving is the real problem of the Milkovic's system. You could think to use an electric motor applied to the bearing of the pendulum, and to apply mechanical or electronics sensors to activate it in the proper instant, ok. But what kind of motor, when it's in the "passive phase", moves itself with no friction? With no friction in both the directions, clockwise and anticlockwise. No one, as I know. Maybe someone have an answer? Otherwise we could think to solve the problem with an air compressed pump, but you have the same problem in the "passive phase".

..buon 2011 a tutti :)
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Merg

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1576 on: January 05, 2011, 05:41:53 PM »
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Merg

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1577 on: January 21, 2011, 08:07:40 PM »
latest from veljkomilkovic.com:

 
Veljko Milkovic -- Leonardo da Vinci Gravity Machine

Old story is passed on from a generation to the generation that Leonardo’s gravity machine amazingly worked, but original model wasn’t saved, only drafts we can find on internet or in rare books...
...to ask question if greatest minds like Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) were in total delusion or at least something different is still possible?


The complete paper can be read on the next link (PDF - 571KB):
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Veljko_Milkovic_Leonardo_da_Vinci_Gravity_Machine.pdf


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Machi

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1578 on: January 30, 2011, 05:25:52 PM »
However, exceptions are everywhere around us!
Exceptions for the first law of thermodynamics are forbidden!

Dual mechanical oscillation system by Milkovic Veljko is the same!!! Real OVER UNITY
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tagor

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1579 on: January 30, 2011, 05:44:40 PM »
Quote from: Machi on January 30, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Dual mechanical oscillation system by Milkovic Veljko is the same!!! Real OVER UNITY

sorry but this is NOT REAL
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pinobot

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1580 on: January 30, 2011, 07:47:29 PM »
Hi, just ran into this discussion, haven't been here for a while. I've been a bit busy myself.  ;D
Anyhow, the design looks like an overengineered version of something like this:
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Tempest

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1581 on: January 31, 2011, 03:00:23 AM »
This should do it then, ya think pinobot?
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pinobot

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1582 on: January 31, 2011, 08:49:21 PM »
If you'd use a piezo than you wouldn't need the spring, the piezo works by difference in pressure.
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Tempest

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1583 on: February 01, 2011, 11:22:53 PM »
ya thought of that after i posted but i needed to go to bed at that point.
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Solomon111

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1584 on: February 03, 2011, 04:20:34 PM »
Quote from: tagor on January 30, 2011, 05:44:40 PM

sorry but this is NOT REAL

If you already think that it is not, tell me why???
Please provide at least one argument, if you have, of course.
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tagor

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1585 on: February 03, 2011, 04:31:01 PM »
Quote from: Solomon111 on February 03, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
If you already think that it is not, tell me why???
Please provide at least one argument, if you have, of course.

yes it is illusion , i can explain you in french if you want
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Solomon111

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1586 on: February 03, 2011, 05:41:22 PM »
Quote from: tagor on February 03, 2011, 04:31:01 PM

yes it is illusion , i can explain you in french if you want

Ok, explain on french, I understand
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tagor

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1587 on: February 04, 2011, 09:00:06 AM »
Quote from: Solomon111 on February 03, 2011, 05:41:22 PM
Ok, explain on french, I understand

look at your pm
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tagor

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1588 on: February 05, 2011, 08:55:40 AM »
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tagor

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1589 on: February 05, 2011, 12:18:26 PM »

 
look at this one
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uVzsfRJGlk&feature=player_embedded#
 
every gravity system run , with input power , until it definitely stop : no more input power
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