Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system ! (Read 2237907 times)

el-tigre · « **Reply #1275 on:** November 06, 2009, 09:38:14 PM »

How about this for an embodiment.

Fix 2 socket set ratchets to the power arm. One raises a bucket lift on the upstroke and the other raises it on the downstroke.

Fill the bucket lift with steel balls and when they dump off the top, let them roll down a track to a point where one can be picked up by the pendulum at the top of its swing. At the bottom of the swing the ball falls off the pendulum and is returned on a track to the bucket lift conveyor.

The pundulum governs when it picks up a ball and hence no timing issues.

Let this contraption run for a while and count the balls waiting on the pendulum staging track. Lots of friction, but it solves the "no work being done on the downstroke" complaint.

Merg · « **Reply #1276 on:** November 13, 2009, 06:55:10 PM »

I'm sure we have been waiting for something like this. It looks smart and sophisticated

A quote from the latest Milkovic's E-mail Newsletter:

Pendulum Electric Brain - Research Progress Report

Dear friends,

during the past year, Laboratory of Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillations Research (a subsidiary of Veljko Milkovic Research & Development Center) has been successfully developing "The Electric Brain" for the pendulum oscillations - a multi-sensor system for collecting all necessary information from the pendulum swing/motion with the movable pendulum's pivot point in order to deeply study and research the pendulum-lever system.

The development is in the final stage and the finalization is expected in the coming months.

There are few snapshots of the current development status of this device:
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Pendulum_Electric_Brain1.jpg
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Pendulum_Electric_Brain2.jpg
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Pendulum_Electric_Brain3.jpg
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Pendulum_Electric_Brain4.jpg

Best regards.

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Merg · « **Reply #1277 on:** November 14, 2009, 06:54:02 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHDWQrnZVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrLvJPKWZSY

...by babarlizia.

tagor · « **Reply #1278 on:** November 14, 2009, 07:28:18 PM »

Quote from: Merg on November 14, 2009, 06:54:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHDWQrnZVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrLvJPKWZSY

...by babarlizia.

is it self running ?

tagor · « **Reply #1279 on:** November 14, 2009, 07:41:56 PM »

Quote from: Merg on November 14, 2009, 06:54:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHDWQrnZVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrLvJPKWZSY

...by babarlizia.

I can not see the device

but in this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDoK7sze2Lo&feature=channel

he is doing real work ...
but not for a long time ...
just release the start energy !
where is the 12 times more output ?

andrea · « **Reply #1280 on:** November 14, 2009, 10:55:11 PM »

Quote from: tagor on November 14, 2009, 07:41:56 PM

I can not see the device

but in this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDoK7sze2Lo&feature=channel

he is doing real work ...
but not for a long time ...
just release the start energy !
where is the 12 times more output ?

Hey! this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHDWQrnZVk - is a new model that I'm improving. I don't know where you read about 12 tmo, in the clip: the explanation on the right just say "finally it shines a light...". If there were significants progress about energy production I would posted that here.
Therefore, I think that you can find a good demonstration about OU in the pdf made by Ron Pugh. And in this videos too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-GpqHJoayc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ZJWa9PJVU

tagor · « **Reply #1281 on:** November 15, 2009, 07:44:09 AM »

Quote from: andrea on November 14, 2009, 10:55:11 PM

Therefore, I think that you can find a good demonstration about OU in the pdf made by Ron Pugh. And in this videos too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-GpqHJoayc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ZJWa9PJVU

sorry I can not see OU in those videos
the energy comes from his hand

andrea · « **Reply #1282 on:** November 15, 2009, 10:01:16 AM »

Quote from: tagor on November 15, 2009, 07:44:09 AM

sorry I can not see OU in those videos
the energy comes from his hand

@tagor
Please read the explanation of the first video clip. We lift up ONE time the pendulum until 90 degrees ( the energy input is (m*g*h) 11 joule), then we leave it to make his work. In the second video clip you have the measure of the energy output in the opposite arm of the lever: you can read it on the right and you can see in the video.
I can't be sure that this thing works, yes, maybe all this is wrong. But, well, this experiment was made with a university book of phisics in the right hand, open on similar experiments. I've just applied the same math.
Thank you, bye

tagor · « **Reply #1283 on:** November 15, 2009, 10:24:18 AM »

Quote from: andrea on November 15, 2009, 10:01:16 AM

@tagor
Please read the explanation of the first video clip. We lift up ONE time the pendulum until 90 degrees ( the energy input is (m*g*h) 11 joule), then we leave it to make his work. In the second video clip you have the measure of the energy output in the opposite arm of the lever: you can read it on the right and you can see in the video.
I can't be sure that this thing works, yes, maybe all this is wrong. But, well, this experiment was made with a university book of phisics in the right hand, open on similar experiments. I've just applied the same math.
Thank you, bye

sorry
bad math
wrong science

I have experienced on this device for 3 years
it is not so simple ...
you have to study more

Solomon111 · « **Reply #1284 on:** November 21, 2009, 05:31:02 PM »

Quote from: tagor on November 14, 2009, 07:41:56 PM

I can not see the device

but in this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDoK7sze2Lo&feature=channel

he is doing real work ...
but not for a long time ...
just release the start energy !
where is the 12 times more output ?

It need more work to improve!
It is not proven 12 times more energy, it is only Milkovic itself came to unreliable results of measurements, which are not exactly confirmed.

Solomon111 · « **Reply #1285 on:** November 21, 2009, 05:42:51 PM »

Quote from: andrea on November 15, 2009, 10:01:16 AM

@tagor
Please read the explanation of the first video clip. We lift up ONE time the pendulum until 90 degrees ( the energy input is (m*g*h) 11 joule), then we leave it to make his work. In the second video clip you have the measure of the energy output in the opposite arm of the lever: you can read it on the right and you can see in the video.
I can't be sure that this thing works, yes, maybe all this is wrong. But, well, this experiment was made with a university book of phisics in the right hand, open on similar experiments. I've just applied the same math.
Thank you, bye

I think Andrea is on the right track!

Merg · « **Reply #1286 on:** November 22, 2009, 06:54:38 PM »

Here is something brand new from Milkovic's Newsletter:

Dear friends,

Jovan Marjanovic, electrical engineer and chief of Laboratory Analytical Team of Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillations Research, has continuing his scientific and research work in the field of ultra effective systems and new energy technologies and now he represented his analysis of over unity electro machines and their basic principles in a new study.

Jovan Marjanovic - Basic Principles of Construction For Over Unity Electro Motors and Generators
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Jovan_Marjanovic_Basic_Principles_of_Overunity_Electro_Machines.pdf (PDF 893KB)

(If your internet browser cannot open or recognize above PDF file, right click on the link and choose "Save Link As...", "Save Target As..." or "Save Linked Content As..." option to download a file to your hard disc)

"The goal of this work is to point out some important facts in construction of over-unity electro motors and generators, where output energy of the machine is greater than the mechanical energy invested on the input side of the machine. If some of the output energy of the generator is directed to the input side of the machine then perpetual motion can be achieved or perpetuum mobile."

Nabo00o · « **Reply #1287 on:** November 22, 2009, 07:18:13 PM »

Just skimming through the document, its great to see that he shares many of my fascinations for electricity as well

Again, if I start the construction of a bigger model to create usable power, then I will probably not use the old and limited methods such as what the standard generator gives.
As mentioned earlier in this tread, and although it never got completely agreed on, the Ecklin generator is one such device which can almost completely ignore the effects of Lenz law.
Another way is creating high voltage, by using high rpm and large coils composed of thin wire.
Since many of you probably know Faraday's law and Lenz's law, you know that the drag on a generator is proportional to the 'current' generated, not the watts.

Higher voltage with little amps will create much less drag on a generator than low voltage and many amps for the same wattage.

Julian

Merg · « **Reply #1288 on:** November 30, 2009, 05:09:11 PM »

Finally, Raymond Head posted his new videos with an "escapement" idea!
I see know what he was talking about...

Escapement for milkovic two stage oscillator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljjCXpq_QSA

Testing escapements failed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCLoCZbw9ic

Why escapements failed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLBVAaA8L8

RHEAD100, I hope you will give us more details here?!

Russell Lee · « **Reply #1289 on:** December 15, 2009, 06:52:46 PM »

I agree,
If it was producing 12 TIMES the energy, a huge amount of energy could be waisted in transfering the power produced to power the initial pendulum swing and still have it work. It wuld be tough with 2 times the power, but not 12. Hope all goes well with this, keep trying. -Russ

Quote from: Solomon111 on November 21, 2009, 05:31:02 PM

It need more work to improve!
It is not proven 12 times more energy, it is only Milkovic itself came to unreliable results of measurements, which are not exactly confirmed.

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