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Author Topic: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water  (Read 42089 times)

Offline kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2021, 06:11:12 AM »
I have two simple questions. How can this work? I mean Marx's water generator.
And how to measure the capacitance of a water capacitor?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_capacitor

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2021, 08:13:14 AM »
About 2 years ago I studied the Zographos videos and in one video he had a spectrum analyzer the display had shown the the upper end of a 300 Ghz. which was quite a shock to me as I worked on radars on slightly lower frequencies.. In the glass test test tube he had placed a small metal plate. Some of the invited scientist passed around the small metal square plate, they where quite surprised, as the device would not work with out the metal square plate in the test tube.. and some years earlier another RF guy John Kanzius used an RF exciter 13.75 Mhz to split water in between two antennas again in a test tube with a tissue immersed wick and the gas would light the wick with a yellow flame as Zographos did it on Greek TV for hours at a time.  The point is that RF in it's self break's up water bonds, the question is what frequency is the best and what modulation is needed to do that.. Now I have split water with RF at 750 KHhz as using a Russian Tesla coil (katcher) a single transistor RF oscillator with some 10 watts of power and was surprised that it worked as it involved high frequency diodes and a test tube. I will post a video later of that..In closing I am surprised that Zographos is still around with incredible knowledge that he has amassed in his RF field in Cell phones.. SO I have posted here on another thread today about this New Zealand company they also have a cheap way of splitting water and it is 20 times less than the conventional electrolysis RF may be a contender as well as graphene.. This none of these tech(s) will NOT see the light of the day, unless it is opened sourced to the people..

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I spoke a few years ago to the man from Greece , I did ask him to drive his motorcycle ( Hho powered)  to one of his country’s 140 emissions inspections place for a print out


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These hydrogen economy techs need open source (IMO way overdue !!


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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2021, 08:01:56 AM »

And how to measure the capacitance of a water capacitor?


Hello buddy.
You can not measure the capacitance of the hho cell aka water capacitor.
water is alive and it is always changing...or as some may say...the water builds up a charge...and changes to a molecular level.

There are some videos on youtube on how to measure it...but nothing very precise....or that everybody can duplicate.

I wish you good luck.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2021, 08:01:56 AM »
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Offline kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #93 on: March 25, 2021, 03:24:17 PM »
I do not know what to say...
AFC of a cell with water.
maximum, about 10.5 MHz.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #94 on: March 26, 2021, 07:15:32 AM »
I see long wires in the photo, ooh..
 If you remove the water, there will be no straight line on the device. Without water, a straight line must be obtained. It is necessary to equalize the impedances. In the water itself, it is also necessary to calculate the electrodes so that the impedance is 50 ohms. It is very difficult. Even if you connect the output of the device to the input, the line on the screen will not be completely straight due to inhomogeneities in the cable and connectors.
Simplified version: shorten the wires from 50-ohm cables to a minimum, down to one millimeter. Decrease the cell length to such a scale. To minimize the overall capacity and inductance of the elements external to the 50-ohm RF cable.

This will allow obtaining relatively correct measurements in the frequency range up to 50 - 100 MHz.

http://www.hp.woodshot.com/
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AppCAD Version 4.0.0
« Last Edit: March 26, 2021, 09:49:30 AM by Sergh »

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Offline kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #95 on: March 26, 2021, 10:12:50 AM »
An equivalent was made with a resistance equal to the ohmic resistance cell with water.
And plus in parallel a variable capacitor. The frequency response is completely different.
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Decrease the cell length to such a scale. To minimize the overall capacity
I'll work on it.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #96 on: March 26, 2021, 11:58:21 AM »
for test purpose take a standard 50 ohm cable with connectors and simply connect the output of this frequency response meter to its input.

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Offline kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #97 on: March 26, 2021, 01:00:05 PM »
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for test purpose take a standard 50 ohm cable with connectors and simply connect the output of this frequency response meter to its input.
There will be a straight line. :) A straight line will be the same when the cell is short-circuited.
And yet it's all bullshit. Maybe you're right.  Because I took another transformer with a volumetric short-circuited turn. It turns out a completely different picture. It turns out a completely different picture. How, then, do you measure this damn capacity? >:(
On alternating current. On a constant current, according to the charge time, this is obviously impossible to do.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #98 on: March 26, 2021, 05:31:23 PM »
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thank you. did not pay attention immediately. it is not clear only why the dielectric constant of seawater is 20 and not 80. and why sea water? we have distilled.

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Offline Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #99 on: March 26, 2021, 06:02:20 PM »
Household distilled water is most likely to be "natural".

 For a dielectric constant of 80, you need highly purified deionized water, and something else about conditions, temperature, etc. I suppose that is not achievable.

then, do you measure this capacity? >:(
Take very clean distilled water for the cell. Connect a large electrolytic capacitor 4700 uF in series with the cell. Measure the capacitance of this circuit with a conventional multimeter with a capacitance measurement function. So?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #100 on: March 26, 2021, 07:47:26 PM »
I understood.  :)
What about Marx's water generator?
Nobody has yet explained on different forums how this can work ?!
Are spark gaps in the water ?!  In any case, ones do not operate at that speed.
With such a frequency. the water condenser will self-discharge faster. IMHO.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #101 on: March 27, 2021, 07:56:45 AM »
I do not find anything unusual here. Capacitors are charged in parallel through resistors, then spark gaps break through, and capacitors are connected in series. The voltages from all capacitors are summed up. Physics at school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUn3I0CZE4

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #102 on: March 27, 2021, 08:52:34 AM »
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Physics at school.
Spark gaps are slow. a capacitor with a water dielectric self-discharges in microseconds.
Что непонятно,то ?

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Connect a large electrolytic capacitor 4700 uF in series with the cell. Measure the capacitance of this circuit with a conventional multimeter with a capacitance measurement function.
I made it even more interesting. One plate was removed before the dielectric. The rest is insulated from water, and is additionally filled with varnish.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #103 on: March 27, 2021, 08:58:58 AM »
Watch the video carefully:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeUn3I0CZE4

Water is used as a conductor. The walls of plastic or glass jars are dielectric. Ordinary "Medieval capacitor".

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #104 on: March 27, 2021, 09:16:32 AM »
I meant such as in this picture.

 

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