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Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #150 on: June 04, 2021, 08:51:15 AM »
The decomposition of water or carbon dioxide are similar processes.
https://wp.icmm.csic.es/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/06/JPCL2010.pdf

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #151 on: June 04, 2021, 09:57:03 AM »
40 nanometer slit ...
Interestingly, the released carbon will be   closed that small gap.short circuit.
water enthalpy 285 vs 394 CO2
Let H2S dissociate first ...
« Last Edit: June 04, 2021, 01:14:38 PM by kolbacict »

Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #152 on: June 04, 2021, 12:43:34 PM »
Another possibility is to recover from CO2 to CO (carbon monoxide). It is also combustible, like hydrogen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQgrMtAydIU

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #153 on: June 04, 2021, 01:12:16 PM »
Interestant,really interestant :


https://wp.icmm.csic.es/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/06/JPCL2010.pdf


by ORMES elementar state https://www.samueljones.org/en/ormus_patent.html   detection process view

f.e.
Subsequent annealing produces the G-ORME


 The G-ORME has an electron rearrangement whereby it acquires a d orbital hole or holes which share energy with an electron or electrons.This pairing occurs under the influence of a magnetic field external to the field of the electrons.


G-ORM Es are stable and possess strong interatomic repulsive magnetic forces, relative to their attractive forces


G-ORME stability is demonstrated by unique thermal and chemical properties


The white saltlike material that is formed from G-ORM Es after treatment with halogens, and the white oxide appearing material formed when G-ORM Es are treated with fuming HC 104 or fuming H 2504 are dissimilar from the T-metal or its salts


The G-ORME will not react with cyanide, will not be dissolved by aqua regia, and will not wet or amalgamate with mercury It also does not sinter at 800 'C under reducing conditions, and remains an amorphous powder at 12004 C


( not reacting like "normal" gold washing process or "Koenigswasser= Salzsaeure" vulnerable )


These characteristics are contrary to what is observed for metallic gold and/or gold cluster salts


G-ORM Es require a more negative potential than -2 45 V to be reduced, a potential that cannot be achieved with ordinarily known aqueous chemistry.


The strong interatomic repulsive forces are demonstrated in that the G-ORM Es remain as a powder at 1200 'C.
"normal" gold melt-point : 1064° C


This phenomenon results from cancelling of the normal at- tractive forces arising from the net interaction between the shielded, paired electrons and the unshielded, unpaired s and d valence electrons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valence_electron

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19637710A1&KC=A1

 G-ORM Es have no unpaired valence electrons and, therefore, tend not to aggregate as would clusters of gold which have one or more unpaired valence electrons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_metal detector/mining ?!

                                           
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                                                  "normal"/( f.e. G-) ORM(es)  spectrometer profile ?

He sended the probes to U.S.S.R,today F.R.R. or RF for Russian Federation !


( My assumption,could also be Ucraine/Kiev or other Ex-U.S.S.R. estates . By research interest: who received the probes and studied by which scopic process and scale ?)






https://www.newsweek.com/scientists-melt-gold-room-temperature-1226339#:~:text=Most%20metals%20have%20very%20high,melt%20gold%20at%20room%20temperature.


Gold and other chemical elements !








Quanten pair ,pair = "Zustaende/BEING", in-/stable






Physikalischer Zustand Der Unumkehrbarkeit


Physikalischer Zustand Der    Umkehrbarkeit




Rectenna/Nantenna with ordinary metals and/or transition metals

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #154 on: June 05, 2021, 09:10:44 AM »
In the decomposition of water,unlike of other projects  I have hope for success, because molecular bonds are quantum things. And there various miracles can happen. :)
Although it has not yet been possible to create a high-intensity electric field in water.
A conductor of electric current, after all. And carbon dioxide, like many other things, a dielectric, is easier with it. As a child, I myself received ozone between two glass tubes with two electrodes.
In a Dielectric, a molecule can be broken apart by a sufficiently strong electric field. Ozone is an example of this. But how do you do it with water? There was hope for high frequencies, but they are also absorbed by water.

And what about water above the critical temperature, it loses its electrical conductivity?

Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #155 on: June 05, 2021, 05:35:51 PM »
Maybe in nanostructures superconductivity and "superinsulators" are possible. 

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #156 on: June 05, 2021, 07:29:54 PM »
Maybe in nanostructures superconductivity and "superinsulators" are possible.


Not an answer but a step-by-step help by others :


https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/chaochen/files/7-2013_microfluid_nanofluid_brownian_motion-induced_water_slip_inside_carbon_nanotubes.pdf


f.e.


"   .... , there is no critical interfacial shear stress to conquer, and water could slip inside CNTs under any given pressure drop due to the thermal activation at room temperature. ..."


conductivity
enforced c.
deforced c.
superconductivty
isolator


the physical "term" amplitude(max/min) defined


How small this here offered process can become micronized :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920507&CC=DE&NR=4035445A1&KC=A1

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #157 on: October 23, 2021, 01:35:58 PM »

Quote from ACCA earlier in this topic
“”About 2 years ago I studied the Zographos videos and in one video he had a spectrum analyzer


the display had shown the the upper end of a 300 Ghz. which was quite a shock to me as I worked on radars on slightly lower frequencies.. In the glass test test tube he had placed a small metal plate. Some of the invited scientist passed around the small metal square plate, they where quite surprised, as the device would not work with out the metal square plate in the test tube.. and some years earlier another RF guy John Kanzius used an RF exciter 13.75 Mhz to split water in between two antennas again in a test tube with a tissue immersed wick and the gas would light the wick with a yellow flame as Zographos did it on Greek TV for hours at a time.  The point is that RF in it's self break's up water bonds, the question is what frequency is the best and what modulation is needed to do that.. Now I have split water with RF at 750 KHhz as using a Russian Tesla coil (katcher) a single transistor RF oscillator with some 10 watts of power and was surprised that it worked as it involved high frequency diodes and a test tube. I will post a video later of that..In closing I am surprised that Zographos is still around with incredible knowledge that he has amassed in his RF field in Cell phones.. SO I have posted here on another thread today about this New Zealand company they also have a cheap way of splitting water and it is 20 times less than the conventional electrolysis RF may be a contender as well as graphene.. This none of these tech(s) will NOT see the light of the day, unless it is opened sourced to the people..


Acca..
End quote

Ps from ... https://m.youtube.com/user/FleischmannMemorial/videos
A bump


And a hobby worth sharing??


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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #158 on: October 23, 2021, 04:16:26 PM »
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Now I have split water with RF at 750 KHhz as using a Russian Tesla coil (katcher) a single transistor RF oscillator with some 10 watts of power and was surprised that it worked as it involved high frequency diodes and a test tube.
Why can't I succeed? Nothing is splited. Nothing comes out?

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #159 on: October 24, 2021, 04:12:04 PM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZdX5Hhk9r0


Carbon free steel using hydrogen
Being done by Volvo and Mercedes and ...


Enormous ...humungous reduction in carbon generation during manufacture
And water is the waste ......


See process description at 4 minute mark in vid


97% less carbon


ACCA


Please help !!


We need to have more “clean water is waste product
Of process”






After work is done


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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #160 on: May 27, 2023, 07:10:04 PM »
Thus, an important scientific announcement comes from major research institutes,
which concerns what the inventor Petros Zografos said - and published - 4 years ago,
regarding the bypassing of the 2nd thermodynamic law, related to the operation of the great invention that produces electricity using as fuel, simple water and an alloy of materials.


These are the recent publications on the websites of the well-known German Max Planck Institute (https://www.fkf.mpg.de/2699241/FuelCells) and the American company HIDEN Analytical Inc. (https://hideninc.com/6113-2/),

the world's largest designer, developer and manufacturer of gas analysis equipment, including mass spectrometry instruments. In the Max Planck Institute report above, e.g. regarding fuel cells as one of several applications, it is clearly pointed out that special electrochemical reactions allow the direct conversion of chemical energy into electrical energy without the limitation of the Carnot principle.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #161 on: May 27, 2023, 09:30:43 PM »
I just published 2 videos from the Zografos press conference where he showed his 50 KWatts Generator. in my Youtube channel here,
no membership required, for these 2 videos, where I also explained in the comments, how this generator principle works....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFGQtTJUOwandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEulh5rUTQw
 its the same video but one time with English Audio only.

I had to buy a membership of a translation service to being able to translate Greek language to ENglish language.

So I would apprciate it, if you helpp me book more translations by buying my Youtube membership, so you can also see, what Zografos did there at the Press conference and how he lighted up his Electric incandescent light bulbs from this 50 KWatts Generator.I have a video of it in my membership channel on youtube with english language commentary...


 Now as we know it that he is using GUNN Diodes to rectify this kind of metallic Hydrogen Ions under pressure from RF Currents to DC output
and then using inverters to power his light bulbs, it is getting clear, that his process is very efficient.

In a recent study the Max Plank Institute confirmed, that this way the Carnot efficiency can be broken, thus it has overcome the second law of thermodynamics..

Thus, an important scientific announcement comes from major research institutes, which concerns what the inventor Petros Zografos said - and published - 4 years ago, regarding the bypassing of the 2nd thermodynamic law, related to the operation of the great invention that produces electricity using as fuel simple water and an alloy of materials. These are the recent publications on the websites of the well-known German Max Planck Institute (https://www.fkf.mpg.de/2699241/FuelCells) and the American company HIDEN Analytical Inc. (https://hideninc.com/6113-2/), the world's largest designer, developer and manufacturer of gas analysis equipment, including mass spectrometry instruments. In the Max Planck Institute report above, e.g. regarding fuel cells as one of several applications, it is clearly pointed out that special electrochemical reactions allow the direct conversion of chemical energy into electrical energy without the limitation of the Carnot principle.

Well, there is another video from Zografos, where he shows a kind of toy device, where one can see more clearly the function pronciple and I still must translate it all hopefully very well, so I need to book more minutes in this translation service..which is unfortunately pretty expensive...also Damn Youtube does not generate any substitles fro Greek videos...so I need to use a different service to translate the videos which charges Money...

If you want to support me in this please pay the subscription to my Youtube channel.Many many thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbcaIfmxRZhnnYVqG81kCZg/join

Hope this helps. Regards, Stefan.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #162 on: May 28, 2023, 07:19:11 PM »
I today uploaded the Zografos English translation from the Toy Model device.

Please have a look here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gp3tqbEHHY

And read the comments, where I revealed how it is probably working...
Now we only need to find the right Ghz standard PCB components that Zografos has used there..
He is probably using standard RF GigaHz PCB components and we just need to find them to replicate this.
Please also help to cover the cost for the translation service by joining my Youtube membership.I have more videos from Zografos in the quoe...
This one I had tried to sharpen and upscale to 720p resolution to better see the PCB components.Seems, it is just a 1 or 2 part semiconductor PCB on this toy fan device..

If you want to support me in this please pay the subscription to my Youtube channel.Many many thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbcaIfmxRZhnnYVqG81kCZg/join

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2023, 08:24:18 AM »
I picked out water overunity videos from my overunity playlist and added a bunch of other ones and here it is, probably the most comprehenisive water overunity playlist on youtube. 53 videos.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl7XYI5ch-F1vJBB7g_2ehi

Majority of motors in the list are water only and few are mostly water with little gas.

I have spent like half hour looking for Arturo Estevez water motorcycle and finally found it, good thing is while i was looking for it i found a whole bunch of new ones.

Keely claimed 42,800 Hz would vaporize water instantly into energy.

"New nanomaterial extracts hydrogen from seawater. A Italian inventor Loris Mazza from San Marino claims he invented a bike that rides 100% on water - Microwave Pulse Generator Water Split 13.56 Mhz"

I am personally not interested in using hydrogen or burning/explosion in any form.

But still it is an interesting another overunity method.


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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #164 on: May 30, 2023, 10:24:40 AM »
A Friend personally visited and checked his device, a TV team filmed his travel. Wonder why there is no update about Zagrafos.
In the past Zagrafos made big claims and years later there is nothing going on.
There is also a secret he tries to hide in one of the Videos, when he showed the inner of his device and pull out some kind of metal out of it before showing the rest.
I forgot the name but there is a aluminium welding material which has been sold in the 50s which could produce Hydrogen only by putting it into water...