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Author Topic: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water  (Read 20030 times)

Offline Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2019, 09:13:15 AM »
You do not have nano-perforated glass. He has such a glass. And he has a direct current. The current goes through the metal of the table.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yf9p96xu_w
 "Why magnets?" - uses as nickel-plated electrodes.

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glass electrolyzer separator.
The gas generator separates the hydrogen from the oxygen with very high purity.
The separation of gases occurs physically, using glass perforated membranes, own production. Membrane capable pass an electric current, but they do not pass gases or liquids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SosvUEmbbgU
Besides that, on this video the pure hydrogen burns like on video from Petros Zographos, with reddish flame. Probably due to particles from electrolyte. Not HHO! Hydrogen without oxygen!

Electrolysis chemical separation of hydrogen and oxygen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLIeAgC9rEE

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2019, 10:38:08 AM »
and how do they make nanoperforated glass?

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2019, 04:45:50 PM »
we read "шипение снарядов" , but only about explosive magnetic generators and so on, of a one-time action.
Doesn't that suit us? is not it.
p.s. What is a ion exchange membrane(ионообменная мембрана) in lithium-ion factory batteries?

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2019, 04:45:50 PM »
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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2019, 08:37:39 AM »
read, read the Stashevsky patent. Read, read, first in English, then in Russian. What is it? about what? There is a user on the skiff "Ужос мля нах"  :) . The impression of reading about something like that. maybe I don't understand something ... ;)
I guessed why the Georgian patent for a motor with high-frequency electrolysis inside cylinders refers to the Stashevsky patent.
Patent Stashevsky on electrolysis with a change in the polarity of the electrodes and strong acoustic vibrations in water.

In the cylinders of the internal combustion engine during its working there will also be strong vibrations!

https://overunity.com/16440/hho-generation-using-high-frequency-electromagnetic-waves-on-water/msg533697/#msg533697

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https://overunity.com/16440/hho-generation-using-high-frequency-electromagnetic-waves-on-water/msg533818/#msg533818

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2019, 10:24:27 AM »
Yes, I would like to believe that it works.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2019, 10:54:06 AM »
explain to me from which sources the energy of compressed gas in electrolyzers is taken under pressure. The efficiency of a good electrolyzer is close to one hundred percent. And under pressure, it even rises, as we know. And the energy enclosed in Brown's compressed gas is taken as if from nowhere.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2019, 02:03:53 PM »
explain to me from which sources the energy of compressed gas in electrolyzers is taken under pressure. The efficiency of a good electrolyzer is close to one hundred percent. And under pressure, it even rises, as we know. And the energy enclosed in Brown's compressed gas is taken as if from nowhere.

kolbacict, " is close to one hundred percent. ...". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water
Could you give us a reference  to your "good electrolyzer"- producer  ?
Or are for you 80-90% ~ close to 100%. ?

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2019, 03:44:20 PM »
explain to me from which sources the energy of compressed gas in electrolyzers is taken under pressure. The efficiency of a good electrolyzer is close to one hundred percent. And under pressure, it even rises, as we know. And the energy enclosed in Brown's compressed gas is taken as if from nowhere.

"If the pressure over the electrolysis is increased then more current passes for the same applied voltage. However, the output of gas per coulomb and the heating effect are both decreased. This is due to the increased solubility of the gases and smaller bubbles  both reducing the cell resistance and increasing recombination reactions" http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/electrolysis.html 
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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2019, 04:10:12 PM »
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High-pressure electrolysis is the electrolysis of water with a compressed hydrogen output around 12–20 MPa (120–200 Bar, 1740–2900 psi).[12] By pressurising the hydrogen in the electrolyser, the need for an external hydrogen compressor is eliminated; the average energy consumption for internal compression is around 3%.
Well, I'm wrong. Let 80-90%
But it was meant that the overvoltage (electrode potential) with increasing pressure to 10-20 bar
decreases. Electricity consumption decreases accordingly. According to my information.
And your wiki says:
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the average energy consumption for internal compression is around 3%
I do not understand. Could it be at 200 bar when there is already an increase in consumption?

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2019, 04:37:06 PM »
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However, the output of gas per coulomb and the heating effect are both decreased.
Well, maybe you are right. According to my information, with a moderate increase in pressure, consumption in kW / h at least does not increase.
interesting information. thanks.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #70 on: July 18, 2019, 09:14:21 AM »
Who can provide a link to the detailed description of the Fleischmann – Pons experiment?
Interested in information for the period 1989 - 1992?
What is with ultrasonic in this experiment?
It is similar?:
http://fulviofrisone.com/attachments/article/150/Piezonuclear%20Fusion%20in%20Isotopic%20Hydrogeb%20Molecules.pdf

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2019, 03:23:06 PM »
;D ;D ;D I found an unknown patent for a motor on the water!  ;D ;D ;D


Kapanadze internal combustion engine on water.

The link to official source:
http://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/en/search_engine/view/8181/1/
Has anyone tried searching on this Georgian website? By other search criteria?
Hmm ... there is still something, close to the Kapanadze motor.  ::)
http://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/en/search_engine/view/8949/1/
In the patent describes the process parameters: - the interaction time and pressure.
These parameters are the same as those of a gasoline internal combustion engine!
The basis of the patent is the use of a catalyst - calcium hydroxide for thermal decomposition of water.
This is slaked lime. It may be some kind of especially refined or prepared.
The principle is described logically and probably it can work!Based on the patent, electricity is not needed for the decomposition of water .. :o

Georgian patent refers to a Soviet patent:
https://patents.google.com/patent/SU807584A1/en

A very rare Soviet journal  is mentioned in the Georgian patent. "Foreign Nuclear Technology" No12, 1976, p. 13-3
I did not find a way to download this journal. According to other articles, it says something about the thermal decomposition of water at nuclear power plants in France (?) at a relatively low temperature.."[/font]Атомная [/font]техника [/font]за рубежом[/font]" [/font]No[/font]12, 1976, [/font]стр. 13-3[/font]

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2019, 10:40:36 AM »
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The basis of the patent is the use of a catalyst - calcium hydroxide for thermal decomposition of water.


How could such a reaction look like?
Can your thoughts ...
Nothing comes to mind.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2019, 10:27:40 AM »
This is something completely new.  Maybe this is not a chemical reaction, but something else.
Calcium hydroxide does not decompose, only water evaporates from it.
Slaked lime is probably wetted first with water. Physical effect ..?

In the simplest version, from Soviet patent 1984 - SU 807584 A1

1. We take any slaked lime.
2. We warm up at a temperature of 400-500 degrees of Celsius, but  not higher than the HHO ignition temperature (~550C).
3. We collect the all released gases, pass through a cooler
4. Water vapor condenses, remain a very small amount of H2   ( 0,00057 from vapor volume)
I did not find anything in the literature about this.
According to the method described in the Georgian patent, they get 14 times more, i.e. 0,0082, ~ 1%  from water vapor volume.
Not much, but if you repeat this 50 times per second inside the internal combustion engine or pump, you get 50% ... ???
It is unclear whether this quantity of H2 or HHO will be sufficient for rotation of the internal combustion engine or such a turbine:..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGizUoKrfGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=836nd6ZijYY

Translation of the patents:

1. Soviet patent 1979 - 1984  SU 807584 A

2. Georgian patent for an improved method, 2007   GE P 2007 4038 B

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2019, 09:22:12 PM »
well, the temperature of the reaction (dissociation) decreases, the yield of hydrogen increases. But the energy balance remains the same. How many calories of heat were spent on dissociation, the same amount we get during combustion HHO.  Or am I wrong?

 

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