Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning ) (Read 614706 times)

gotoluc · « **Reply #750 on:** January 08, 2015, 07:26:44 PM »

Again, a very interesting idea and design thngr

I like the way you try to use existing motor and modifying them to suite the needs.

Great thinking! and thank you for sharing these wonderful ideas

Luc

thngr · « **Reply #751 on:** January 08, 2015, 09:42:09 PM »

if one knows he does not need fancy equipment to work, use surroundings. I consider my self as "Robinson Crusoe" so I do not skip anything; learned so much even lighter have my attention (movie:"Cast Away" (2000) or iron man and his asistant have to do it at the cave)
An advantage of the new design is no need for rebalancing. you can turn it like 20,000rpm.
I will repeat it again; if you use collapsing magnetic field at the generator side by single diode in series with the load this will be came as a self runner generator with out any motors. We are using lenz effect to our advantage here.

thngr · « **Reply #752 on:** January 09, 2015, 01:16:14 PM »

Quote from: gotoluc on January 08, 2015, 07:26:44 PM

Again, a very interesting idea and design thngr

I like the way you try to use existing motor and modifying them to suite the needs.

Great thinking! and thank you for sharing these wonderful ideas

Luc

I like the way you try to replicate the effect in non ideal conditions.
Thank you for sharing your experiments.

thngr · « **Reply #753 on:** January 10, 2015, 09:48:28 PM »

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LBKK0OoF0
from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19851-topic-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning-10.html
other replication about ramadan syahputra device.
rator is not perfect as it needs to be! in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLFIUOqT90

T-1000 · « **Reply #754 on:** January 10, 2015, 10:49:42 PM »

Quote from: thngr on January 10, 2015, 09:48:28 PM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LBKK0OoF0
from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19851-topic-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning-10.html
other replication about ramadan syahputra device.
rator is not perfect as it needs to be! in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLFIUOqT90

Magnets in the center, iron buttons in rotor and coils outside?

thngr · « **Reply #755 on:** January 11, 2015, 02:43:29 AM »

Quote from: T-1000 on January 10, 2015, 10:49:42 PM

Magnets in the center, iron buttons in rotor and coils outside?

iron buttons couse eddy currents; they have to be isolated steel laminations at least. they have to match magnets as equal numbers each. Despite all these conditions it works fine if you do not count a little drag while powering a light bulp.

gotoluc · « **Reply #756 on:** January 11, 2015, 04:59:05 AM »

Quality builds MCR

Thanks for sharing your results

Luc

shylo · « **Reply #757 on:** January 11, 2015, 12:04:41 PM »

Nice Rig MCR, When you short the coil it is continuous right? If you made a switch so the coil only shorts at max output, and feed that through a bridge into a cap bank, then back to supply I think your input will be reduced.
Looking forward to more vids.
Thanks artv

T-1000 · « **Reply #758 on:** January 11, 2015, 03:19:52 PM »

Quote from: Mister Caribbean Roots on January 11, 2015, 03:42:24 AM

Just playing around with a 8 & a 12 pole rotor on this flux gate setup...

Hi,

In your setup the induced magnetic field in coil (Lenz force) is still against movement...
Can you try to get static NS magnets and rotor (with ~2mm depth laminated transformer steel pieces on it and the length should cover the gap between N and S poles of magnets) between stationary coil (between N/S poles of magnets) and stationary magnets then repeat experiment?

Cheers!

ramset · « **Reply #759 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:20:44 AM »

Please Have a look

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19851-topic-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning-11.html#post269796

thx

Chet

Jimboot · « **Reply #760 on:** January 12, 2015, 10:38:07 AM »

Quote from: Mister Caribbean Roots on January 12, 2015, 05:10:37 AM

Hi Chet,

Thanks for the link...
What stands out in his setup and what i liked about it is,
1- The full circle of magnets..just like a multi pole ring magnet...
2- The full circle of the core...just tiny gaps between them...
These 2 help to reduce the cogging a lot...
If these 2 are open with large gaps you will have massive cogging like i had in my first flux gate setup running very poor at 10amps input...lol...

The mags are not gapped. They are attached to a piece of iron pipe and the dark lines are just made with a marking pen for measurement purposes.

wattsup · « **Reply #761 on:** January 12, 2015, 02:36:01 PM »

@MCR

As always, your workmanship is top notch.

I think a very good test is if you have two identical magnet wheels with the same polarities facing outward on both wheels. Then put the output coil in between the two magnet wheels and adjust the magnet wheels off angle so that one side hits the coil, then the other side and so on. So you have the same polarity hitting the coil in succession. This is where you should start to see output in multiples.

Also, in your last video have you tried it without that big speaker magnet to the left but with the same wheel on the right to show difference between with and without a constant bias?

wattsup

Grumage · « **Reply #762 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:42:19 PM »

Dear All.

Pick the bones from this !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STbGa5zvpg

Cheers Grum.

NoBull · « **Reply #763 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Grumage on January 12, 2015, 03:42:19 PM

Pick the bones from this !!

First of all, the conductivity of the iron pieces will allow large eddy currents to flow in them.

Secondly, these is no low reluctance path for the return flux.

Grumage · « **Reply #764 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:57:26 PM »

Quote from: NoBull on January 12, 2015, 03:47:34 PM

First of all, the conductivity of the iron pieces will allow large eddy currents to flow in them.

Dear NoBull.

Noted !! This is perhaps why my beautifully engineered rotor warped !!

The Mk2 is already underway, I am having some laminated segments being surface ground, within the next few weeks, I hope ?? And I have some 8 mm Polycarbonate sheet on order for the new rotor.

I am hoping we shall see a number of improvements to the overall design !!

Cheers Grum.

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