@Bolt and All:
   Thanks for bringing up the positive side to this TPU thread. Isn't that why we are here. We had faith in what we saw, and what was shown in the videos?  With the hope that much more would be forthcoming...
   I agree with your view point on the fact that NOBODY has made an exact replication of any the SM TPUs, but instead all known builders have made their own versions of it.  Why is that?  Not even one device, just like his.  In ten years...
  Bolt, please explain a bit more about the exact working function of the passive magamp idea, as it relates to the TPU.  I for one am very interested in the passive working aspect, using no solid state components.  But, I still don't quiet get the way it works with the TPU.  It also appears to me as what may have been used instead of the current transistor-mosfet switching pulse idea. I'm wondering why you have not made one yet? There doesn't seam to be much cost to it.

   SM devices were pretty rough and simple, especially the first ones.  But they worked!  That's the point!  That's why we are in this thread.

  If anybody can duplicate (to the tee), an exact SM device as shown in any of the videos, to prove that they were Faked, please do so.

  Batteries, power lines, radio stations,   That's in the Fake TPU Thread.
  This is the Real TPU thread = "Understanding electricity in the TPU".
   The best way to stimulate action, is to say that it will never work.
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In consideration of some recent discussion I was recalling what Bob Boyce had experienced in some of his toroid construction similar to SM's.  Bob knew of SM's work and found first hand some of the extreme danger of what may happen if everything is tuned 'exactly right on' rather than being off a little.  That was the experience of a lightning strike.  I believe this happened twice IIRC.  So are we to assume Boyce was also faking a lightning strike? 

   In checking back through one of Boyce's documents I also found some tidbits I think might be worth restating here.  These are all quotes right out of his work:

"While working as an engineer for a govt. subcontractor, I became aware of a problem with a switcher power supply, that under certain temperature and load conditions would go into over unity operation.
Sometimes these would fail in a big way and totally destroy the load. Way more damage than the power source to the power supply was capable of delivering. The power supply board used an onboard toroidal inductor, wound with Teflon insulated silver plated solid copper wire on Honeywell powdered iron cores.
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I do not like to use ferrite or laminated iron cores. With the high permeability, they can only be used at very low frequencies and very lower power densities.
 
Yes, one of the "features" of this power source is that it seems to adapt to the load, within reason of course. Load impedance is fairly important to getting maximum output, due in part to the HF portion of the energy riding on the DC output. Momentary shorting of the output does result in a plasma-like discharge arc.
 
From what I can see, they do look to be very similar. The primary differences that I could see are core material and number of poles. It sounds and looks like SM used stranded copper wire and 4 poles, while I use powdered iron and 3 poles in my current device. Otherwise, both seem to build up a swirling electromagnetic vortex during operation.
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I have used other core materials with varying degrees of success as well over the years. I started out with laminated iron cores on the 2 phase devices in the mid 80s, and progressed to air cores on the 3 phase devices in the early 90s. One of the first units I tried 3 phase on was a Seike "g-strain energy absorber" that I had connected to a hand wound 3 phase air core torus coil. Talk about uncontrolled operation! But I kept at it, unaware of the dangers. Since I was no longer doing the hydroxy gas research at that time, I was obsessed with trying to replicate Tesla and Moray research on a shoestring budget. After my lightning strike injury in 1995, I mothballed that line of research until I had the time, energy, and funds to continue. I refused to apply this 3 phase design to practical application until the control issue could be solved.
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The material is important for a several reasons.:
 
  1. The material directly impacts the highest frequency that can be applied. 
  2. The higher the frequency used, the greater the energy density. 
  3. Since there are bias fields applied, we want a material that will not saturate. 
 
Laminated iron and ferrite fail all 3 of these criteria. Air cores require too much copper for a given frequency. The low permeability of a powdered iron mix is best. So the chosen mix plays a large role in how much copper you will have to wind on it. Since we don't want overlapped layers for any of the windings."
 

giantkiller

I saw your videos.Very nice !

Almost as I thought
That rotation of field is something which makes DC but I think it is required because TPU is ground-less  and contains too little free electrons so they need to be treated harder then a lot of electrons from reall ground

SUPER NICE Build GK, especially the Ferrite Toroid that AUTOMATICALLY knocks the "JUICE" back & forth between the windings.

However, I still think you are "deceived" LOL, thinking there are concentric, circular windings, because none of SM's videos show that.

Just trying to help out with my observations sir.
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@bolt

I have the deepest regard for your opinion as I do every other member here. Please understand one thing. There is a big difference between a device that is totally faked and half-faked. I am using the word "fake" because it gets to the crux of the matter. I know I will have to repeat this many times before it sinks in given that we have been on this for several years now.

Tonight, if you discovered a method of producing continuous reactive power output that can be "re-condensed" enough to feed back to the circuit in a loop, and all you need to start it is a small 3vdc lithium computer battery (3LCB), but for all intents and purposes this energy production is not enough to produce any meaningful work but is enough to loop onto itself indefinitely, what would you do? In SMs case, he produced what I call today an FTPU. The FTPU truly portrayed what SM wanted to show. Continuous voltage production. That's all he discovered so in the FTPU video, that's all he showed. One small effect turned on itself to feed itself. This was a very important discovery indeed and I would be the last one to deny this. The point is though that SM got caught up in his greed for more money. You do not live in a $5000 per month mansion without having some level of urgency on where the next buck will come from. You have already established your credibility with the money guys so now it's only a question of how far you are willing to go to keep that money rolling in. This was SMs pattern of life since years prior. Doctor Phil says "the past actions will depict the future actions". So.....what else could we have expected.

Any time SM showed a voltage reading, he was showing a stabilized reactive power loop. Any time SM showed lighting bulbs, he showed direct battery power that could have also been pulsed to slow the battery depletion. At 50hz or more, you would not know it. The reactive power side could have also been used to create the battery side pulse. In the STPU and 6TPU I am now convinced he was now using DC bulbs that where pre-printed with the 100 watts rating and he used trafficked wall plugs with a bridge rectifier and resistor. He did all this because there was no other way for him to preserve his standing.

If SM was first hired by a government institution or university that gave him a steady good salary, no stress, no expectations, no expected monetary returns, no expected minimal power output levels, and providing him with all the equipment and assistance he needed, just do the R&D and see where it goes, then SM could have been the next Tesla. He blew it once he decided "now, how will this be profitable for me, me and me". As soon as he went with investors, SM was now a cooked goose. He wanted to both protect his "little" discovery and capitalize on it as much as possible. SM was not at the pinnacle of worldly altruism. It was him first, him always, him forever. Until the gavel fell and crushed his dreams. Now he is limited to a life of quasi-monastical seclusion. And that little discovery is now under a shit load of lies and deceits.

To understand the electricity in the TPU, I had to first strip off the layers of crap to get down to the real matter at hand, the real primal discovery that has been lost in all his fancy and masterful shuffling. That took a good two years of looking at his devices from all angles until one day it clicked. Not fake or real, but half fake and half real. Then the pieces started to fit.

If I have to repeat this 100 times, I will because my only "agenda" is to liberate you guys from the irrationalities of the SM TPU so you can concentrate on what really matters. I did not make the SM videos. I did not make the TPUs the way they are. I did not come on the forum to say all these SMnitudes. SM did. I only tested the many forms of the TPU and accumulated results and all say, reactive power. The coils say reactive power. The designs say reactive power with hidden batteries. The larger the unit, the more batteries.

Why did SM hire Jack Durban if he already had all the answers. Because he did not. SM knew he was using many batteries and he hired JD to see if he could come up with a way to use none, or at best, far less batteries. But that proved unsuccessful since SM had no choice but to keep the true reason of lighting them bulbs with batteries under his own control and knowing. Why the hell would you hire someone if you already have the answer? Does not make any sense at all except if you know the device is half-real and half-faked and you are looking for a way to shift the percentage more to the real side.

@otto

Do you realize that what you just said is exactly what I have been trying to explain here. Now keep the reactive power but replace your power supply with batteries in a lamp and you have an OTPU. I know already you are using a good 24 vdc and some good amperage in your tests to light those bulbs. But you are an honest camper and you openly say that you are using a power supply. SM is attributing all his videos to the Earth Magnetic field always saying "there is no battery capable of producing the effects you see here". But he makes us think he is running it at 121vdc when in reality he is running it at 24vdc or 12vdc and lighting DC bulbs. When you put that into a new equation, the 20 minutes limit that he put as an excuse of overheating becomes more explainable reality.

You are using your set-up as it is today to light those bulbs. But you are not happy with the results because you still need the power supply and you are comparing this to the SM TPU thinking SM is not using any power supply so how is that possible. So you continue to break your head to try and advance in this line of thinking. This is where the crime is occurring in what SM put forth. He is leaving us with all these lies and just letting us grapple with the advent of making a device that resembles his devices but in our case, ours has to work without batteries or a very small amount, when his devices were loaded with batteries all along, except the FTPU.

I hope I am not going to be banned from the forum because of what I am trying to explain to you guys.

"Gyroscope

A small heavy wheel or top rotated (usually electrically) at high speed in anti-friction bearings. Any alteration of the inclination of the axis rotation is resisted by a turning movement (gyrostatic moment). It is therefore used as a compass, as a controlling device in aircraft and torpedoes, and, in large sizes, as a ship's stabiliser.

Chamber's Technical Dictionary W. & R. Chambers, Ltd."

Correct me if I'm wrong but the essence of gyroscopic action is opposing to any force trying to change place when gyroscopic action occur so it appear like dynamic inertia.
I don't see how it can be faked with any motor inside TPU.Vibration sureley can be faked but not gyroscopic as I see it.

That is because it isn't fake. 

Funny how the people posting the good stuff are ignored and the people posting crap are cheered and congratulated.

Take a look at the forces created in a gyroscope.

Hi wattsup,

I cannot recall which TPU was used when SM run the small television receiver on the table: at that occasion the batteries hidden in the TPU supplied the TV set?  MAybe for a few minutes they could...  Your opinion on this?

Thanks,  Gyula

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You want proof? Fine take a normal transformer and load the O/p with a large series choke and a cap. Tune the inductor and or cap to create a perfect out of phase condition. The i/p power is almost zero amps apart from some leakage. Now put a 500 Watt lamp in series and the lamp will light. Re-tune the LC to correct for lamp impedance. The 500 watt lamp is now fully lit. THe volts drop accross the bulb is under 12 volts yet this is a 240 volt bulb.

The i/p watts is leakage in practice maybe 3 watts. The bulb is fully lit! HOW??? this experiment done hundreds of times. RE will power the bulb under standing wave condition. A standing wave condition is a Scaler Wave. The bulb work under water and you wont get a shock.  Tuning is a real pig you might have to spend half hour getting tuning perfect even moving  the lamp wire will knock it off tune but it works.

Hi Bolt,

I wonder what you describe above, can it be considered what is called in conventional el. engineering as a series LC transformation to a parallel LC by a matching network which is a transformer in this case?
Thus the impedance seen by the mains becomes high and the normal loading from the primary coil cannot take place towards the mains. And of course huge reactive current flows in the secondary coil and if you do this test with a 60W bulb, then you "ruin" the series LC circuit loaded Q with its much higher resistance. Is this involved here?

You would not get a shock from the 500W bulb because it would have only the 12V AC across it as you say and the transformer makes it safely ground independent from the mains...

If you want more examples let me know I  can show many many RE experiments.

Yes, please do describe some more if you can.

Thanks Gyula