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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #555 on: August 02, 2010, 01:14:44 AM »
Hi Bolt,

I wonder what you describe above, can it be considered what is called in conventional el. engineering as a series LC transformation to a parallel LC by a matching network which is a transformer in this case?


Oh boy you are getting close. OU as a transformation is achieved using conventional RF engineering to create the desired effects.

This is why RF engineering is required to tap RE but an electrical engineer calls it power factor correction! Whats the difference? None only the frequency changes.

Lets take something simple........ Mmmm Joule Thief. Whats REALLY happening to make this pull RE and it does depending on build skills. The battery is pulsed into a bifilar coil which has unusual properties. The magnetic field created by one winding is therefore equal and opposite to that created by the other, resulting in an electrical flux field of zero (i.e., neutralizing any effects in the coil). In electrical terms, this means that the self-inductance of the coil is zero while the actual inductance can be seen as near infinite. The result is the pulses sent by the transistor end up seeing an infinite VSWR or electrical terms the Power Factor is ZERO. This allows the voltage to climb unhindered  as the current is now out of phase. This is NOT a transformer stepping up the voltage.

Now we have a condition of say 50 to 100 volts and 50mA in the tank as VARS. This creates an electrostatic field and the radiation is no longer hertzian but longitudinal. RE can only enter a system at the NODE points which is why is called Zero Point Energy. The ambient gains come about as the voltage increase is potential Joules all explained in Don Smith vids and papers. The tank acquires excess energy under these conditions and only requires some of it to be siphoned off WITHOUT breaking the resonant dipole.  How? Easy.. use RF book principles to match the load to the source.

This means if you just connect a lamp on here you kill the dipole so don't go just putting a diode on without RF matching. This is why some have realized by using transformer cores and matching the impedance alike IF transformers and tuning carefully to desired loads a COP>3 is quite easy to achieve. That said when you have just 100mW OU its such a small amount of power on the Joule  Thief its dead easy to LOSE this gain. So you can light up an LED for a week or Xmas tree light for few hours on one AA but what else of practical purpose? NOT MUCH you wont save the planet with this nor power your house!

 So the answer is scale up everything 1000 times bigger. Use a BIG coils, with a good drive of say 50 Watts. Get 10,000 VAR on the tank, really crank up the volts and make the coils scream. NOW you have a 1000 watts OU! and you wont miss-place it and measurements then become an In your Face reality.

Dr Stiffler is nothing more then a wideband RF oscillator feeding the o/p into an inductor to create a VSWR 1:100000 or trashed power factor. Transmission is now longitudinal and has some very unusual effects. First it generates some interesting powerful magnetic fields which allows COPIES for free. This is only a 500mW device can you imagine a 500 watt device with 25,000 VARs?

Hope you are just starting to see the bigger picture.:)

A bit more......

Don Smith started out with this a built the 5 coil tower he realized that one only needs to produce plenty of VAR's in one tank and the actual watts drive to do this may only be 10 or 20 watts. The power factor was trashed and he forced the VSWR to INFINITE to create voltages of 100KV with several AMPS in circulation.  WOT? How the fk did he do this? How can a 70 Watt NST transformer become 500KW. Well its easy when you know how:) This is how he claimed and quite rightly so his devices are rated at 500KW etc.

Very very few builders knew this they are all tuning to conventional RF thinking the coils will work at tuned in phase 20 Mhz or whatever WRONG!!!!!!!!

I tell you more later..

Its an electrostatic device where one TX will produce identical magnetic copies in the RX's
« Last Edit: August 02, 2010, 01:42:44 AM by bolt »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #556 on: August 02, 2010, 04:44:41 AM »
Interesting...
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Its an electrostatic device where one TX will produce identical magnetic copies in the RX's
The assumption I had been working on is the electrostatic part. I have always thought that the simplest way to get this is a stun gun. The lower potential of this device needs a closer pole. The Tesla coil has the other pole at quite some distance. Correct? I had always seen the stun gun as a simple way to achieve this. Am I incorrect in this approach?
The reasoning is so: When the gun fires the shock is seen in other coils. If it is a tank it rings at that resonance. Therefore we have cheap copies. The ringing speed is your choice. When I saw the SM17 shoot sparks and knew Tesla did also I just put 2 and 2 together. But this connection happened so early in this TPU game I thought I couldn't possibly be correct per all the other posters. I just didn't have the explanation recently put forth here. I am a digital and software engineer. To implicate a stun gun threw me into left field as far as training goes. But the electrostatic stays stuck in my mind. Moaby told me 'no stun gun'.  So I dove into TTBrown. Lo and behold I did things to two houses I never thought possible. But... These things were disturbing and dangerous. So I look farther and deeper before trying too many other mind boggling escapades. The wife gets pissed when I blow shit up. I sit back and realize that is what I do and would like to perform further tests at a less catastrophic level.
When I did the copper and steel coil resonance and saw what that did I thought 'this is a micro engine'. Lets step it up with electrostatic configuration. The GFIs chatter in the house hit from behind. I thought 'WOW'. How do i transfer this to usable power if I can rock the grid?

So I would like to buy a vowel at this point because buying more parts or equipment only spells more trouble from where I sit.

I see the stun gun as an E core magamp.

In other words: I keep finding things out other than the TPU.
I gotta go play my guitar for a bit right now. Its safer...
« Last Edit: August 02, 2010, 06:06:05 AM by giantkiller »

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« Reply #557 on: August 02, 2010, 08:17:56 AM »
Let us not forget the genious of Tesla.  His power transmission scheme was pure genious at work. The mathmatics I present below comes from his simple device where he describes millions of horsepower stored in his tanks while the mains were only circulating thousands of horsepower.  A gain of a 1000.   Look upon a system circulating reactive energy as a time storage unit.  Say we can run a system at 1 megahertz and input 1 microwatt per cycle from some electric field.  At the end of 1 second we have stored in the tank 1 watt. With losses we are reduced to .6watts in the tank.  Every second we are storing up .6watts.  At the end of 24 hours we will have stored up 51.8 kw.  This will allow us to run a load of 2.15 kwperhour.  Or little under a three horsepower motor non stop.  While we are running this load we are adding to the tank so the tank never drops below 51.8kw stored.  Now if we just input 1watt directly into the load.  We would be running a 1watt lightbulb for 24 hours instead of a 3horsepower motor for 24 hours.  Sounds unbelievable but the reason this is possible is that the tank does not resist the input at all.  While the load resists the discharge of the tank.  Storing 52kw is crazy and dangerous and only used as an example.  You only need to store enough to take care of surge loads like inverter capacitors charging.  When SM powers up his tripplite it clicks on and off.  Obviously the discharged capacitors in the tripplite were overloading the capacity of the tpu.  Tesla tells us how to do it .  His generator is ringing his spark gap  the equivalent of two avalanche diodes in parallel.  When the tank capacity is greater than the generator capacity the energy gets kicked back into the generator. This is how he burnt out the one in colorado springs.    It was night time with minimal loads on the line in the town.  No place for the excess energy building up in the tank to go.  SM warns about it also.  You tune that tank dead on balls to the input frequency and the reactive energy power factor corrects you got yourself one big old problem.

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« Reply #558 on: August 02, 2010, 12:05:06 PM »
@sparks yes is true i thing but how what diode youwhill put in the circuits of nikola tesla ....  in your  1mhz one watt generator in to your tank .... <speed is energy  but .. how you whill tank all hat energy fromyou speed 1mhz generator THIS IS THE WORLD BIG MYSTERY ... WE KNOW THAT SPARK 
IF WE SOMEHOW ABLE TO BACK IN THE PAST AND ASK Nikola Tesla THEN WHILL BE KNOW HOW TO  MAKE if you turn auround and see is it immposilble ,LIKE FREE ENERGY  ::) ::) ::)       :( :( :(

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« Reply #559 on: August 02, 2010, 01:31:43 PM »
Let us not forget the genious of Tesla.  His power transmission scheme was pure genious at work. The mathmatics I present below comes from his simple device where he describes millions of horsepower stored in his tanks while the mains were only circulating thousands of horsepower.  A gain of a 1000.   Look upon a system circulating reactive energy as a time storage unit.  Say we can run a system at 1 megahertz and input 1 microwatt per cycle from some electric field.  At the end of 1 second we have stored in the tank 1 watt. With losses we are reduced to .6watts in the tank.  Every second we are storing up .6watts.  At the end of 24 hours we will have stored up 51.8 kw.  This will allow us to run a load of 2.15 kwperhour.  Or little under a three horsepower motor non stop.  While we are running this load we are adding to the tank so the tank never drops below 51.8kw stored.  Now if we just input 1watt directly into the load.  We would be running a 1watt lightbulb for 24 hours instead of a 3horsepower motor for 24 hours.  Sounds unbelievable but the reason this is possible is that the tank does not resist the input at all.  While the load resists the discharge of the tank.  Storing 52kw is crazy and dangerous and only used as an example.  You only need to store enough to take care of surge loads like inverter capacitors charging.  When SM powers up his tripplite it clicks on and off.  Obviously the discharged capacitors in the tripplite were overloading the capacity of the tpu.  Tesla tells us how to do it .  His generator is ringing his spark gap  the equivalent of two avalanche diodes in parallel.  When the tank capacity is greater than the generator capacity the energy gets kicked back into the generator. This is how he burnt out the one in colorado springs.    It was night time with minimal loads on the line in the town.  No place for the excess energy building up in the tank to go.  SM warns about it also.  You tune that tank dead on balls to the input frequency and the reactive energy power factor corrects you got yourself one big old problem.

Not quite but close enough. The entropy loss is 38.2% but the stochastic gain is 161.8% you can see even with a loss i can cover it with gains. So the bigger my slush fund (VAR Tank) the more i can take out of it while the % of the total remains very small. Typical conversion rates are 10%-20% of the VARS can be converted back to watts using standard RF conversion and matching practices is a good rule of thumb.

So i use RF principles to capture OU as RLC leads to overunity. In simplified format RE=RF because that is how you go about capturing it. RF application applies from 1Hz to 10 Thz it matters not the application and method remains the same. So you can see it doesn't matter if its a Newman motor running at 4Hz or HV electrostatic Air caps running at 5Ghz+ as casimir effect where the ambient wavelength is the width between the capacitor plates running RLC in high VARS as shown by Don Smith the ambient supplies the excess and i can take out what i need for FREE as it undergoes conversion from electrostatic to magnetic. Note the magnetic runs diametric to electrical flux. As part of the RLC tank i take requirements using either diametric Cap thru the L OR an L via the C to capture Radiant Energy.

Here is a T Bearden warning "Don't break the Dipole" if you want OU.

I talk about polarity later as RE captured is highly negative respect to real earth as it attracts a positive ambient charge. (lightning is positive charge at top of clouds.) The TPU warning is due to lightning strikes from clear blue skies.  You think this is BS then speak to Bob Boyce about it. Yes if you run your device as rotational magnetic flux using a PolyPhased VAR pump (TPU to you)  then watch out over 25KVAR!!! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh fking BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your dead.

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« Reply #560 on: August 02, 2010, 01:53:31 PM »
Still don't understand? read my posts its all there for long time OU is a commodity as real as water and air. You want a 10KW thing for you house fine send the money i make it for you.

Im so fked off when saboteurs run around debunking everything when we don't have an energy problem we are an iron ball flying thru space covered in tetra watts per square mile and covered in a huge magnetic flux nor even lack of information to build something.

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« Reply #561 on: August 02, 2010, 03:07:30 PM »
That all sounds very good! It look like, you have all the knowledge to produce a working device, but I as understand you don't have the necessary equipments and parts.

I think that should be not a problem, if you really want to help, and spread the knowledge, here are many peoples who already have the necessary things, you just have to come clear, will you share, and help, or not.

Or am I wrong?

I tried for years lots of us have given away volumes for free. Nothing happens so only funding will change things. People moan they want OU but not prepared to make a small investment. I need 25k to fire up a lab and buy parts. Its NON negotiable and only no strings donation. 25k is dirt cheap its not even 3 months wages for a good RF engineer.

Quite a few wealthy people hang around here and do nothing they are only leaching to try and patent it which will lead to another multi million dollar fk up. You can't patent Gods Free Energy if you want to live. Many have died trying or the very least the wish they were dead after the MIB stripped them off all assets.

So i will give HUGE Hints but im not going to publish a full parts list with Rat shack part numbers, ready made PCB's just because too many lazy to try even if they have the money.

Then if you REALLY want it then send me the money. I will make it send you the device and open source everything. You get what you want I protect myself by open source.

No Underground secret labs, no NDA's for lame piece of shit like Orbo or Searl!!

It taken 10 years to develop the Joule Thief but in only in last few months has anyone tried to take it over 100mW! Now That Chinese guy seeking funding to increase it to 1000 watts but read his notes everything I said about VARS RF and OU is absolute true as he reports his real workshop findings!

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #562 on: August 02, 2010, 03:08:03 PM »
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« Reply #563 on: August 02, 2010, 03:29:09 PM »
I don't think so anyone will give you 25K " NON negotiable and only no strings donation" here, and honestly I don't really see, why is that necessary...

Maybe you are at the wrong place, if you seek money here for your researches.  ::)

Im not seeking,  im providing a solution. If you dont have angel sponsership status then fine it doesnt apply to you. You say its not necessary but nothing happened yet has it? Except Chinese got a little bit of funding and bench proven what i state is true but they also need more to get 1000 watts Joule Thief. Last i read they were up to around 50 watts OU COP>5.

 You know how many people brag and state "I give a million bucks for an OU device" Fine put your money where your mouth is and I only need 25k.

You know why? Because they WANT it ALL for themselves...greed, greed greed as usual. Anyway no point discussing this further anyone serious knows how to reach me via PM no big deal.

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« Reply #564 on: August 02, 2010, 03:49:18 PM »
I don't see why are you different in that scene. From my viewpoint you except 25k from somebody, without any proof you can do it, what you claim, and you want the money as NO strings attached.  :o

Come on Bolt! Is that sound funny just for me?  :D

People make donations all the time except mostly goes to really stupid ideas like Save the Polar bears or The Sports and Arts foundation or what about the  Bill & Bush Clinton Haiti fund!! here you go $500,000 check!! Do they ask and see receipts for every cent spent? No of course not its a donation. Lucky they don't if sent to Bill Clinton cos none of it gone to Haiti:)

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« Reply #565 on: August 02, 2010, 05:00:36 PM »
Wow!  There is so much disinformation that I don't know where to start.

Joule Thief is not an OU device and it is impossible for a joule thief to create radiant electricity (RE).  JT's operate in well known electrical engineering parameters and none of it is abnormal, mysterious, or even that interesting.

SM stated that you could build a TPU with a few dollars (far less than $25k) and a couple hours of your time.  All it takes is knowledge of the coils and how they interact.  He never said you need a lab full of equipment.

Reactive power is not some sort of free energy source.  If all of the reactive power became real power you would still not have something for nothing.  There is no mechanism of gain there, only the misunderstanding of people who talk too much.

The following should be read by anyone thinking reactive power leads to OU:
http://www.energymanagertraining.com/announcements/EE08_result/C.Jayaraman(1).pdf

(The beer mug analogy is my favorite.)


Wattsup:

You mentioned that a magnet vibrates with any coil that is pulsed.  Next time you encounter this, try to determine if the strength and shape of the magnetic field changes.  It does change but you will have to determine in what way.  Do not assume that it is meerly an interaction between the magnetic field of the coil and the magnet.  If the coil is producing RE, then the interaction is different.  You may want to explore this from behind some sort of protective barrier since the magnet can come apart.


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« Reply #566 on: August 02, 2010, 05:36:09 PM »
sigma16

Interesting comment. I have always thought why Tesla spent so much time analysing hypothetical ring floating around Earth equator. I tend to visualize magnetosphere as a fluid and in fluid me can make various distortions or whirls....Once broken energy is released maybe at slower rate.
Something related to building a dam on river. RE looks to me like broken dam effect.

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« Reply #567 on: August 02, 2010, 06:35:11 PM »
@ Bolt,   The motor runs ICE cold sometimes frost will cover the case due to RE. YES i have seen this myself not ice as some have under critical conditions but covered in condensation and cold to touch.

If you want more examples let me know I  can show many many RE experiments.

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Thank you for the SUPER GOOD posts about RE stories, especially about Bob Boyce & Roto Verters.  Per your offer above to post more, please post more RE related stories.

Meanwhile, here are 2 stories I find very interesting:



Ron told me that when he was running his electric car his neighbors car had a bad battery and he removed one from his electric car and gave it to them. the alternator on the neighbors car went up in smoke after an hour of driving.  it was more than likely running at full field trying to charge the battery.

We did not use a motor and i believe that is the secret to getting it to self charge. Ron told me he ran his car for months without charging the batteries.

He also told me a strange story that after running the car for a few hours when setting at a stop light the other cars around him all stopped running.  he called it some sort of energy field he thought it was creating. he also told me that his neighbor could not get out of her mobile home one day when he had the motor running and the car in idle for a few hours in is driveway, she yelled for help and when he went to help her it was like walking through air as thick as sand and it took almost all his energy to get to her.  After that he stopped the project to think about what was happening.

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Imagine an electric machine having no electrical input itself and which, when started on no load by a drive motor and brought up to speed (3250 rpm), thereafter runs steadily at that speed with the motor drawing a little extra input power with a time delay rate of about two minutes.

The machine rotor has a mass of 800 gm and at that speed its kinetic energy together with that of the drive motor is no more than 15 joules, contrasting with the excess energy of 300 joules needed to satisfy the anomalous power surge [to spin up from rest].

Imagine further that when the motor, after running five minutes or more, is switched off and the machine is stopped, you can restart it in the same or opposite direction and find that it now has a memory in the sense that it will not now ask for that 300 joules of excess input. 30 joules will suffice provided that the time lapse between starting and restarting is no more than a minute or so.

This is not a transient heating phenomenon. At all times the bearing housings feel cool and any heating in the drive motor would imply an increase of resistance and a build-up of power to a higher steady state condition.

The experimental evidence is that there is something spinning of an ethereal nature co-extensive with the machine rotor. That 'something' has an effective mass density 20 times that of the rotor, but it is something that can spin independently and takes several minutes to decay, whereas the motor comes to rest in a few seconds.

Two machines of different rotor size and composition reveal the phenomenon and tests indicate variations with time of day and compass orientation of the spin axis. One machine, the one incorporating weaker magnets, showed evidence of gaining strength magnetically, as the tests were repeated over several days.

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« Reply #568 on: August 02, 2010, 06:45:09 PM »
"Wow!  There is so much disinformation that I don't know where to start.

Joule Thief is not an OU device and it is impossible for a joule thief to create radiant electricity (RE).  JT's operate in well known electrical engineering parameters and none of it is abnormal, mysterious, or even that interesting.

SM stated that you could build a TPU with a few dollars (far less than $25k) and a couple hours of your time.  All it takes is knowledge of the coils and how they interact.  He never said you need a lab full of equipment.

Reactive power is not some sort of free energy source.  If all of the reactive power became real power you would still not have something for nothing.  There is no mechanism of gain there, only the misunderstanding of people who talk too much.

The following should be read by anyone thinking reactive power leads to OU:
http://www.energymanagertraining.com/announcements/EE08_result/C.Jayaraman(1).pdf

(The beer mug analogy is my favorite.)"


Joule Thief can be an OU device it puts out more then it requires to run it. I call that OU.  It doesn't MAKE RE it captures it and converts it....big difference!!!!!!!!!

Second did you see SM's lab? That is EASY 25k worth in todays money. Not just the lab equipment but parts too. I can order a little shopping list of parts and it will run up several K just filling up component racks. 25k is dirt cheap.

 Without a full RF lab it cant be done which is why not many kitchen table builders have got very far. He also said that unless you have like 20+ years EE/RF tech experience you probably wont even get close.... and he is right after 5+ years on here only 2 or 3 got very close but not quite close enough.

While its true the finished product may only cost 39.99 in parts the precise component makeup cost a bit more in R & D.

One only has to look at a cellphone to realize that cheap PAYG that cost 9.99 actually cost 25 years a few million man hours and $500,000,000,000,000 to get you that 9.99 cellphone.

Look here they are right on the money he knows exactly how reactive power creates REAL watts. I put my notes in here between his statements.

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Improvement and Demonstration on July 19, 2010


We tried the three layer toroid.  The first attempt was to put the Joule Thief at the lowest layer and two transformer type windings as two top layers.  There were some improvements but the top most layer showed significant decrease in induced voltage.


We then put the Joule Thief as the middle layer.  To our greatest delight, the Output shot up.  The continuous Output Power was 56 watts.  The steady AC Output Voltage was 14 Volts even though we varied the load – resistors and LEDs.  The Input Power from the 1.1V AA battery was less than 0.4 watts.  That gave us a COP of greater than 160.

Load tank should be positioned in the Center of a VAR tank where joules potential converts more readily to amps as a center tap dipole. ..See Tesla transformer coupling papers. Read Don Smith.

It looked like we could get closer to resonance and extract much more lead-out energy with the new arrangement.  In a few days, our Output Power increased from a few watts to over 50 watts.  Our team is extremely optimistic in producing a 1KW lead-out energy device in the very near future. The following are a list of possible areas of further research.

1.   Size of the Toroid – Bigger appears to be better.  TRUE more aperature area for Radiant energy
2.   Number of turns of wire in the Toroid – More appears to be better. More wire in bifilar better chance of creating near perfect canceled flux and high reactive VAR values.
3.   Core material of the Toroid – No concrete data to show direction yet. Cores of higher permeability create more OU.
4.   The use of capacitors in the Joule Thief – appears to help 
5.   The transistors in the Joule Thief – the larger ones appear to help More drive the better.
6.   The LCR circuit in the Primary of the Joule Thief – tuning helps  Standard RF application leads to more OU
7.   The LCR circuit in the Secondary of the Joule Thief – tuning helps DITTO
8.   The LCR circuit in the Secondary of the Transformer – major factor CORRECT impedance matching as RF tuning to max high impedance to low impedance load.
9.   The number of turns of wire in the Secondary of the Transformer – important to connect the right way – mixing clockwise and anti-clockwise will lower output. Correct RE is polarized.
10.   The use of thin copper wire appears to be much better than the lamp wire. Only because more wire leads to greater inductance. The Q is  increased dramatically with thick windings.
11.   Use of Signal Generator instead of battery – can vary frequency.
12.   The lower the frequency, the higher the lead-out energy (results so far).
13.   Higher L and Higher C values appear to lead-out more energy. Increases VSWR and provides more VARS within device parameter.
14.   The Pulsing can either be AC or Pulsed DC. Pulsed DC should be slighty better.


15.   The present Joule Thief and Transformer arrangement appeared to have build-in feedback mechanism.

Device will work much better as CLASS C.
16.   The Output is capable of recharging batteries now.  We can already demonstrate Battery A recharging Battery B and vice versa.  A few (6 LED lights) could be on all the time.

Yep sounds simple enough.

The chance of our team producing a 1KW lead-out device for the poor countries within three months is excellent.  We want to share everything so that products can come out quickly to benefit the World.

Best of luck and you are on the right track!
« Last Edit: August 02, 2010, 07:16:14 PM by bolt »

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« Reply #569 on: August 02, 2010, 07:20:08 PM »
Not only are you alliterate (google that one), but you are also a total idiot.  JT has nothing to do with RE is any way shape or form.  It can not recieve it or make it or anything between.  JT is not OU and is impposible to make OU.  If you think it is OU, then you are a fool.

SM's lab was for audio work.  He just happened upon the effects that allow the TPU to work. 

Good luck with your JT.  Can't wait until yor magnets stop working...LOL!