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Mk1

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #630 on: August 05, 2010, 12:51:56 AM »
No one gets it ! We all know parts of it , but unless we make a collective effort to solve it , we are no further then when SM presented it .

The time for talking is over , its time for pictures and video , teach your tricks with others and they will do the same , right now everyone is a parasite ...

Put your Ego's in your back pocket and sit on it , we are lucky to have the opportunity to work with people from all over the world , instant assistance form other humans sharing your goals , we are a army , a resistance to oppression , but bad programing brings us to oppress our self , stop acting like slaves , build on solid foundations , if we can't do it no one will .


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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #631 on: August 05, 2010, 04:06:57 AM »
...we are a army , a resistance to oppression , but bad programing brings us to oppress our self...

Yes, but not here.  Unlike an army, anyone can join this particular forum; agent provocateurs and crazy bastards alike, allowed to flail about for over five thousand posts before you, Mk1, helped put that one down.  (Thanks again, by the way.)  But there will always be more; same ways, different means.

Other, "invitation only," forums could be compromised as well.

"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it to yourself with your own research." -Milton William Cooper

I believe that the Joule Thief circuit allows anyone to do their own research because it costs so very little to make and engages the mind in contemplation of oscillating circuits, unlike a standard DC flashlight 'experiment,' there is more going on inside.

I have absolutely no idea who is telling me the truth on this, or any other forum, unless I prove it to myself.  Why do any of us trust anyone else?  We do not need trust, we need brains, brains, and more brains.  We each need to figure it out alone, for ourselves, by ourselves until we reach a critical mass and the truth can no longer be contained,... whatever that truth my be.  It may just be boring old textbook stuff, after all, or it could take us to the stars.

Good night, and good luck.

giantkiller

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #632 on: August 05, 2010, 04:51:29 AM »
Always pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #633 on: August 05, 2010, 05:21:30 PM »
     @ All:
      Looks like the man behind the curtain doesn't know his A.. from a hole in the ground, either. Just more BS. He must be so bored, and got nothing else to do. Since he couldn't get his toy to work.  If he really knew something,  he wouldn't be waisting his time here.
  NOW its your turn,  smart guy.   You got more BS for us?  Or are you getting the POINT...     

     
                             
               

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #634 on: August 05, 2010, 06:55:21 PM »
You know I think there are quite a number of people here who are really trying to help others out.  I think some may have already found the answers.  Others may not quite be there and are hoping by sharing what they know others will build and find some little difference or try something just a little different that will result in the big AH-HAH - this is IT!  And hope that person shares with everyone else.  And due to the very nature of the TPU it just may be dangerous enough that it's not the kind of thing you want to see someone putting together who has just learned that red is positive and black is negative.   That fact leads me to believe some hold back a bit depending on how they perceive the knowledge of others they may share with.  And yes their are two sides to that concept and the other one is not so good.  I still like to believe most people are honest and desire good things for others and our planet. 
   
  It also seems so much good info has been shared in the last few pages that perhaps those who feel the need to protect their riches and the status quo are trying their best to disintegrate further research.  I don't think that's wattsup.  I just don't totally agree with his conclusions.  I'm sure it's been a long hard road for many.  I started following FE research 20 years ago and have watched and helped a little with one person's quest for about 15 years.  He's not on here but I believe he's about to finally achieve his goal of FE.  He has dedicated full time his life to this research.  The point is that it doesn't happen as fast as we want in many cases.  Don't let that ruin the opportunities that may still lie ahead. 

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #635 on: August 05, 2010, 08:26:07 PM »
@e2,
Well put.
I am still on the current build. It has taken time becaue I see in this set of instructions the potential of putting most of the specifications we know of in place. I also have 3 layers/coils just finished.
Now I put the specified electronic process in place.

This will prove one of 2 things: the build, the process, or the source that gave me this. I want this narrowed down. I trust the build specifications and the process shown. This will validate the supplier.

The caveat in the subimission is: 'If the coil doesn't work throw it away and try again.'
« Last Edit: August 05, 2010, 11:37:34 PM by giantkiller »

Mk1

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #636 on: August 06, 2010, 02:06:19 AM »

Well , the professional trolls are here to disrupt the collective work .

The main strength of the JT is the people working on it in harmony and sharing all data , it works great ...

With pictures and drawing , its easier to judge if its worth a try , and seeing how others make there coils , its all in the detail ...

In the tpu topics you rarely schematic , or drawing or data ...

Some are leaders and start there own topics like Gk , we should all to this to document our research , and making it accessible to others you do your best if others are interested they will ask for more details ...

That is the only way .


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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #637 on: August 06, 2010, 03:10:35 PM »
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The main strength of the JT is the people working on it in harmony and sharing all data , it works great ...
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Some are leaders and start there own topics like Gk , we should all to this to document our research , and making it accessible to others you do your best if others are interested they will ask for more details ...

That is the only way .

I agree.  But PLEASE include enough detail, like GK's builds and others, so that your contribution can be replicated, verified, and experienced on anyone's bench or your just another pretty pinwheel stuck out the passenger window.

This forum, and others, may not be as useless as I portend. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #638 on: August 06, 2010, 07:05:27 PM »
I lead myself. Others choose to follow. Creative people are not natural born leaders with politics. Their idea is different at the time when others need to see. We all go 'round and 'round in these positions.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #639 on: August 06, 2010, 08:11:31 PM »
I lead myself. Others choose to follow. Creative people are not natural born leaders with politics. Their idea is different at the time when others need to see. We all go 'round and 'round in these positions.

Creativity is the initial joining together of two or more previously unrelated ideas to form a new idea, such as the Joule-Thief circuit.  Now, since the basic circuit has been shown here many times, we can start with this one JT idea, (or some other idea,) add our own ideas, and make our own discoveries.  Someone posted an Armstrong oscillator circuit here recently; very similar to a JT.  I intend to test that circuit one season, maybe this winter.  It looks like I have settled-in for the long, scenic-view; I am just happy to be on the train.

Say where is this train headed; do we now understand electricity in the TPU?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #640 on: August 06, 2010, 09:40:09 PM »
Snapping a field within a field within a field. I have seen this over and over again. Whether in metal or air. This is really hurtfull when applied to aluminum.
So I am in the prototype stage of setting up the circuit. I will post the attempts in the discrete parts of the process.

These are field in a field in a field.
The snapping or high speed, low current coil ringing.
Additional caps to tank the coil layers.
Frequencies that match the tuning. Now here is the tricky part. The frequency, the circumference, the resonance of the 3 layered tanks, the impedance. Alot of matching mechanical properties to setup a platform that matches the frequencies. A total environment for the tanks to ring. Will this be collectable? We will see or how is this tapped...

With this setup I will be available for input to run this thing. In any case this setup has alot of specific things we have seen before.
Included is pulse 9v DC. No reversal of the fields.

Let me add this:
With 3 layers of DC pulsing the modualtion of the fields all go in the same direction. I relate this to cannon balls. With high speed switching then I have high speed cannon balls. With the small iron core this causes hysteresis or delay. Now the high speed activity will collect into the iron core. That being in parallel with the stranded collector should enable induction.
This is from the very beginning basics.

JDO300 and I have been in constant communication over the last 4 years and been reviewing these lastest items. We are and have been pursuing understanding the processes.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 10:52:11 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #641 on: August 07, 2010, 03:41:28 AM »
You are thinking way to hard and making this way too complicated.

Try to get one layer or one coil to work before you try three layers.  This is the best advice that anyone can give another and I'm sure that Steven would agree.  Start at square one and do not move to the next square until you complete square one.  Everyone skips past square one and wonders why it doesn't work.

Where did Steven start?  He noticed something odd.  A noise? A vibration? A feeling?  A signal? An effect?  That is square one.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #642 on: August 07, 2010, 09:20:07 AM »
You are thinking way to hard and making this way too complicated.

Try to get one layer or one coil to work before you try three layers.  This is the best advice that anyone can give another and I'm sure that Steven would agree.  Start at square one and do not move to the next square until you complete square one.  Everyone skips past square one and wonders why it doesn't work.

Where did Steven start?  He noticed something odd.  A noise? A vibration? A feeling?  A signal? An effect?  That is square one.


Tesla did the same. Additionaly there is a chance that square one is safe while mix is always danger.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #643 on: August 07, 2010, 05:58:20 PM »
Say where is this train headed; do we now understand electricity in the TPU?

@Rosphere

Unfortunately people do not want to learn about the electricity in the TPU because it may lead to some unwanted conclusion. I have been trying to sink some logic into your brains about the SM TPU but it looks like I will be the only one to get the message.

All I read, although very interesting posts of ideas on workings and effects, a @GK design, some blabber-mouthing, but nothing, NOTHING ON WHAT I HAD PUT FORTH.

So I have almost finished preparing the third and final post on the subject of how to fake a TPU demo, because I am now totally convinced SM faked ALL his videos (except the FTPU) and even  his demos with them live turkeys just gobbling up all the crap SM shot at them. SM was a master of deceit. His videos are a stark warning to all that the deceivers will come forth with many ploys to make you think what you want to think. They will devise many excuses as to why they do not show voltage and amperage readings. They will use any method possible to justify their mentally deranged antics.

Again, just listen to the message SM left Jack Durban after JD did the radio show. Kind of tells you that even to this day SM is mentally unstable. He only feels comfortable when he is lying to aid in his self-aggrandizement.

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/wave%20files/

I want my post to be a written record so that in 5 years from now when everyone finally wakes up and realizes that SM was a total fraud, that I will at least be able to say, "WOW - Lucky me - I turned left just in time to head off another 5 years of limbo-isms. Guys better wake up.

@sparks

Do you know anything about any electronic equivalent to "static receptors".
Seems all I can find out on this is in "biology" but nothing in electronics. Hmmmmmm.


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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #644 on: August 07, 2010, 08:41:10 PM »
How does one explain the shockwave felt by JDO300 when he pulsed his ECD? Collumnated energy. The GK4 produced dispersed energy.
Field within a field, 2 frequencies, Bang on.

I wait in earnest.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2010, 09:15:30 PM by giantkiller »