I truly beg to differ:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg250549#msg250549

Current progress is I have the drivers partially setup and am continuing to work on them this weekend.
I am trying to take this a step further. This new model is a version of the GK4 from the past but a little more refined. I see in this build the process is a somewhat closer to using just the coil activity. The process is what is important not the build itself. There are some new factors in this and a compilation of previous specs from others including Steven Mark, Spherics, Sauron and Bolt. One could almost surmise they are the same person. But that is another thread.

I hope that what I posted will be of use. I have only built from the mined nuggets.
Up to this point I thank everybody and their knowledge sharing. For without it we are one hand clapping in the dark.

--giantkiller. I press on...

I see you are still riding the GK4 wave, which hit the beach a long time ago.  The build is very importante.  You can not just throw a bunch of coils together and hope it works. 

why vacuum tubes are important ?
answer in simple terms please !

is that because of switching speed - sharp rise and fall edges without noise ?

coils interactions : why we do not understand it ? maybe BECAUSE we don't see this type of interaction when not using vacuum tubes and correct timings ?
we see only magnetic induction, but I saw something (electrostatic induction?) when you break LC oscillation using precisely  nano or picoseconds break without distortion or slow falling slope
it looks like that common electrostatic tension visible around HV lines now dramatically spread around in spherical shockwave
is that what we are looking for ?

Post the documents you refer too.

Documents?  I never referred to any documents.

@otto

Thank you for your question which is pertinent.

We have all been playing around with reactive power. It is higher voltage output that anyone here can make like the guys in the JT thread. I made up to 800 volts with just a center toroid, 1500 vdc with the Tesla Ozone Patent. High voltage but very low amperage. When you put a real load on this output it will show a few volts only, remove the load and voltage jumps in the hundreds. Consumption is micro amps.

The OTPU is two systems that are totally non-connected. One system is in the OTPU so without the bulbs connected to the OTPU SM could show voltage of 91.2 vdc. But this is reactive power and cannot do anything useful besides making your volt meter read an output. Then he connected his battery driven bulbs, possibly even DC bulbs that he used with printed 100watts on them. The batteries, maybe 12-24vdc lit the bulbs from one side, and the reactive power of the OTPU showed the voltage as 91.2 vdc. This I am now totally and irrefutably convinced this is the way SM did his OTPU video. I also know how he made his other videos.

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@all

SM said he went to great lengths to ensure his videos were done in a way so as to show the power output of his devices and leave no doubt. What great lengths? Great lengths means you put a voltmeter and an ammeter and a scope on the output before and while you apply a load. It means you put your voltmeter and ammeter on the wall plugs before you plug the bulbs and while you plug the bulbs.

Did he do that? No. Never. Not once. The great lengths for SM means he did everything possible to make a video "à la David Copperfield". So this means anything and everything is legal terrain to fool you into thinking what you think you see is reality. This is the level of his great lengths.

Regarding the bulb brightness with 1997 cameras, any of that possible compensation would have been evident in all the video and not just on the bulbs. The camera cannot distinguish or modify the brightness of only one part of a frame, it will modify the whole frame. 800 watts of bulbs being lit would have blinded everyone in that room. If the camera compensated for the brightness, then everything else would have been totally black. But it would not have blinded them if the bulbs were only 12 or 24 volts pulsed DC with 200 9vdc batteries under the hood, of course you see 800 volts but again that is reactive power output on the voltmeter, but the bulbs are really only need 12-24 vdc. That's why he never connected the voltmeter while there was a load.

Question: I have one output that is fed both a 12vdc of 2 amps and a reactive power of 110vdc at micro amps. What will the volt meter read???????? What will the bulb receive??????

The STPU was almost melting away. What coil will still perform his function while it is melting away? There has to be a stable driving force for that to happen. Just like the 6TPU. It is loaded with batteries but not to drive a real 100 watts bulb. He takes a DC bulb, puts it on the tall thin lamp stand that is now plugged into the wall socket. This time SM cannot hide batteries in the stand. So he modifies the bottom wall plug again. This time he puts a small bridge rectifier in the wall plug with a resistor to bring down the output of the bottom plug to 12-24vdc. You and I see the bulb is plugged into the wall so we automatically think it is getting 120vac at 100 watts. We take a mental snap shot of that brightness for a mental comparison when he plugs it onto the 6TPU. He puts the voltmeter on the 6TPU and reads 121.8 vdc or around there. But again this is only reactive power. If the 6TPU was really putting out only 12vdc or 24vdc, would you need an inverter to run a TV or a drill? Hence that inverter video.....

Anyways, I did not post this information to start a war. That was really what I was afraid of. Are TPUers ready to look at the facts, the cold hard facts. Maybe not yet and I am sorry then to have jumped the gun. Can you treat this in an impersonal manner and not attack each other and not make childish claims that "I am bitter that I did not make a TPU". I am not bitter at all. I have done many tests and have a good idea on how to go forward but it is not because of SM. It's thanks to all of you. The realization that SM has used two power methods to do his videos fits perfectly into his video methodology and is only a greater clarification for me to move forward. Where SM failed, we will now move forward and succeed without relying on his design parameters that were only good to produce reactive power. Technically we are much further advanced then SM ever was. The only main difference is we are honest about what we do and how we do it and also about the results we get. We don't go around faking videos or results. We don't take this effort as a David Copperfield type fake-o-rama where anything and everything you can do to fool people is all right.

Sorry again to have ruffled some feathers but I am sure you will all be back in the sky soon enough. I will now stop posting anything new about the SM TPUs and return to our regular programming.

Maybe one last thing. If you think I am pleased to have had to post this, then you are definitely mistaken. It would be very easy for me to just bury this info and forget about it, hoping that regardless, guys here will eventually find another angle that has more promise then following so many SMnitudes. But I thought if it does not help some on the forum, it may help others that are always hanging around but never post. Proof of this is a note I took down just before posting. Before my post there were 31190 views of this thread. Since my post there are now 32707 views. Surely those that posted here since were not the only ones reading this thread, so, to all of you out there in TPUdom and this goes for me also.................. back to the bench. There is more work to be done. For me, the SM TPU saga is now solved. Using the methods outlined, anyone can now replicate how SM did his videos right down to a "T". Very easy to do.

@wattsup

again a question:

OK, reactice power is useless. But what if you would use a combination of reactive power AND lets say 24V from a battery? Or 12V?

Otto

@bolt

SM could go anywhere he wants with a 6TPU loaded with batteries and a 12vdc bulb printed 100watts. Anywhere he goes, he will be able to show a reactive voltage reading of 121vdc off the TPU, then remove the voltmeter and plug the dc bulb and get good lumens. From the same output terminal he shows higher voltage but really drives at lower voltage. You would never know the difference.

I am bringing here a perfectly well thought out explanation of how SM did his videos. This is based on a few years of complete analysis of every little part of his videos, every action, every effect shown. I took a good two months to formulate this explanation in order to cover as many of the angles and especially the progression from one TPU to the next.

So @bolt, I understand your apprehensions perfectly well because I deal with them every day myself, even now. But, don't tell me the only ideas you have for OU come from the TPU. The idea should come from @bolt, or @GK, or @otto, or @wattsup, or yes, yes, @IST or all other members here that i have not named but are here beside us. Or Tesla. But if we keep this SM TPU thing, we are destined to turn around in circles.

Question: Why can the elephant survive by not eating more then a mouse. Answer: Because the mouse is in a very realistic elephant suit.

If you don't know about the suit, then you will be breaking your head for years trying to figure it out. Everything you try will not fit. You can open up the World Center for Elephant Nutritional Studies and work there for decades. You will never figure it out. Oh but you will definitely come up with some great theories, all to no avail. But great theories they still are indeed. This is the quandary we are in with this SM TPU business. We accepted low quality data and held it up to the highest pedestal as cold hard cash. But every year we are more and more short changed. The more I test, the more I realize this is not true, the more I realize a few turns of wire will not produce real useful power. The more I study the SM videos the more I see and realize there are major discrepancies and all these point to only one thing. SM in reality is David Copperfield. Just jok'in but you get the drift.

@otto

I have done that mix for days and days. The 24vdc with greater amperage will take over the whole circuit function. The reactive power will only make a tickle on that type of set-up. But when you put your voltmeter on the output you will see 100 or more vdc. But when you apply a load you will see the 24vdc plus maybe a 3-5vdc added by the reactive power making about 27-30vdc.

That's why SM never keeps his voltmeter on the device when loaded otherwise you would see the voltage drop to the true RMS output of the device because it is now under load. He did keep the voltmeter on the OTPU because each of the two bulbs had their own power source. Thus there was no reactive/dc output mix but two separate outputs being shown.

The only real TPU is the FTPU. It produced 62vdc of reactive power for the voltmeter. if it had produced real power, SM would surely have put a bulb on it to show the real output. But he did not. Exactly how I have found it to do the same thing in my tests while consuming only micro-amps. It was these tests that started me on this road to realizing how SM did his videos. We always looked for either "real" or "fake". But we never considered the TPU could be half-real and half fake. Once you do that, all the pieces fit perfectly into place.

@bolt

SM could go anywhere he wants with a 6TPU loaded with batteries and a 12vdc bulb printed 100watts. Anywhere he goes, he will be able to show a reactive voltage reading of 121vdc off the TPU, then remove the voltmeter and plug the dc bulb and get good lumens. From the same output terminal he shows higher voltage but really drives at lower voltage. You would never know the difference.

I am bringing here a perfectly well thought out explanation of how SM did his videos. This is based on a few years of complete analysis of every little part of his videos, every action, every effect shown. I took a good two months to formulate this explanation in order to cover as many of the angles and especially the progression from one TPU to the next.

So @bolt, I understand your apprehensions perfectly well because I deal with them every day myself, even now. But, don't tell me the only ideas you have for OU come from the TPU. The idea should come from @bolt, or @GK, or @otto, or @wattsup, or yes, yes, @IST or all other members here that i have not named but are here beside us. Or Tesla. But if we keep this SM TPU thing, we are destined to turn around in circles.

Question: Why can the elephant survive by not eating more then a mouse. Answer: Because the mouse is in a very realistic elephant suit.

If you don't know about the suit, then you will be breaking your head for years trying to figure it out. Everything you try will not fit. You can open up the World Center for Elephant Nutritional Studies and work there for decades. You will never figure it out. Oh but you will definitely come up with some great theories, all to no avail. But great theories they still are indeed. This is the quandary we are in with this SM TPU business. We accepted low quality data and held it up to the highest pedestal as cold hard cash. But every year we are more and more short changed. The more I test, the more I realize this is not true, the more I realize a few turns of wire will not produce real useful power. The more I study the SM videos the more I see and realize there are major discrepancies and all these point to only one thing. SM in reality is David Copperfield. Just jok'in but you get the drift.

@otto

I have done that mix for days and days. The 24vdc with greater amperage will take over the whole circuit function. The reactive power will only make a tickle on that type of set-up. But when you put your voltmeter on the output you will see 100 or more vdc. But when you apply a load you will see the 24vdc plus maybe a 3-5vdc added by the reactive power making about 27-30vdc.

That's why SM never keeps his voltmeter on the device when loaded otherwise you would see the voltage drop to the true RMS output of the device because it is now under load. He did keep the voltmeter on the OTPU because each of the two bulbs had their own power source. Thus there was no reactive/dc output mix but two separate outputs being shown.

The only real TPU is the FTPU. It produced 62vdc of reactive power for the voltmeter. if it had produced real power, SM would surely have put a bulb on it to show the real output. But he did not. Exactly how I have found it to do the same thing in my tests while consuming only micro-amps. It was these tests that started me on this road to realizing how SM did his videos. We always looked for either "real" or "fake". But we never considered the TPU could be half-real and half fake. Once you do that, all the pieces fit perfectly into place.

Basically what you are saying that if the TPU is fake then you have to dispute virtually all the other OU devices and declare them all fakes. The TPU is real. I know all about the VARS and i know how to convert VARS to WATTS and i also know how to drive the TPU with just a few milliwatts without so much as a fet bang anywhere. I know the configuration of the mag amps and exactly what they are used for and how it works. I know what the magnet is for and exactly how it works to correct the b field bias.  I know how to wire the coils and provide circulation magntitc fields. I have posted all this over and over in my prior posts.

The 5Khz clock runs the magamps is standard in all his devices. Because it runs the magamps it appears on the DC o/p as "5khz mush".

The sub sections i described i have tested individually and or seen others perform these test. What i have never been able to do without funding is full TPU reconstruction but every single part of the TPU is already crossed referenced with known prior art in the OU world. Every statement SM made is true and i can cross reference it with something else as anecdotal evidence he is not a scammer.

His clues really were trying to give everyone the best possible chance.  In fact i never seen anyone make a TPU on here yet not even close. They are all power FET coil bangers and not tuned and not stacked 3 layers high either and i certainly never seen anyone use mag-amps and bias it correctly which is pretty essential to the operation of a TPU becuase it controls the entire inductance and tuning of the device. When you get this right it will start with just one sweep of a magnet over the coils.

I will tell you something else  the answer to the TPU wasn't in the TPU its impossible to reverse engineer something off a video while all the circuits remained hidden. Look at Kapagen it was only  microwave oven transformer in a blue box and a coil of wire yet very few guessed what it was or even how it was wired looking at a passing vid shot.

The answer was in everything else. There are glimpses of the TPU in dozens of patents going back the last 100 years.

So my response is in reference to my current build:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg250549#msg250549

It has a iron core.
It has 3 layers, albeit in the concentric fashion.
It has control coils wound full circumference of the collector.
The collector leads exit apart from each other like in the very early diagram.
It has 3 frequencies.
It has floating ground.
It is driven by micro amps.
It uses a 9 volt battery.
It is switched with the highest of transitions. Only the rise and fall of the input pulse.
It has the same qualities of a magamp but in layers not segments.
The circuit sits in the middle like all of SM's TPUs.

So where does this not add up?
In other words in defense of Wattsup and Bolt, Bolt says we haven't done enuff, Wattsup say there is too much in the wrong direction.
I have taken a different stance. I have tried to put it all in perspective and put the best nuggets on the scale.
@Wattsup, what about the gyroscopic action? A pager motor performs the same trick. I put one in the motor driven hand I built for tactile feedback. We didn't want it too fast or it would buzz. But at the right slow speed while the user would grip something and sweep the hand with an out stretched arm the pulsing felt like harmonic waves up the arm. Thump, thump, thump. Just thought I throw this in here.
If the TPU is a fake how does one explain the large spark demo by SM? What, he built a large stun gun to fake the public?

Back to the speille.
For the list I gave and the post in my thread as reference: what could be missing. I have seen the items on the list hammered into the ground one by one. Seperately they don't do squat. But together we get the choir singing with the orchestra, no?

Through all this we have learned a great, great deal. Enough so that the rest of society looks at us like we are nuts, they don't understand, Or their jaws drop in amazement. No? And when you mention the whos who on the project from extensively educated to the dead greats, the listeners are in awe. There faces light up with the inconceivable right in front of their minds. They see hope.
All the devices that Bolt mentions are undeniable. We have seen them, picked them apart, built small subsets of tests, and show the results.

I mentioned the air meg(to many this is an inconceivable concept). I stand my ground on this. Fields ping ponging back and forth or up and down. How else could the coils work? We have had to read through alot of stuff. But the nuggets all make a bigger idol. Irrefutable.

If somebody wants to disagree they had better not be a newbie is all. And I will listen.

I am supposed to be on the bench right now but am here.
@wattsup,
Don't burn out.

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