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giantkiller

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #510 on: July 30, 2010, 08:14:36 PM »
Now guys....
Drop the authors and pull out the nuggets.

Noise and vibration? 2 transformers rattling each other side by side.
Gyroscopic? heavy magnetic banging.
Large sparks? Only a stun gun type circuit can do this off a small power source. Electrostatic. If the size of disruption and close proximity were conduction then SM would have blown his arms off right there.

Back to the lab! Muwahaha...

Progress report and TPU bootcamp video on the way.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2010, 08:49:16 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #511 on: July 30, 2010, 08:26:36 PM »
Now guys....
Drop the authors and pull out the nuggets.

Noise and vibration? 2 transformers rattling each other side by side.

or one transformer and a particle gun working in pulses  ::)

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #512 on: July 30, 2010, 10:43:18 PM »
How come no one mentions the youtube video where emdevices drives to the place where SM lived.

What about the power lines shown in that video

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #513 on: July 31, 2010, 12:39:28 AM »
  @ FatBird:
      Thanks for all that... we needed to hear it, also.  From the side of those who think that it is possible,  and not just BS.
                                                                              NickZ

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #514 on: July 31, 2010, 12:40:24 AM »
@FatBird

Now your talking pertinent points. Let's look at these one by one as per your numberings.

1) Just take any magnet and put it near a pulsing coil or toroid coil and a reed contact. You will hear the reed and feel the gyro-shmyro effect. Big deal. All a distraction. SM always put a magnet on his devices except on the 6tpu that had a toggle switch. How else do you expect him to turn the thing on without some type of switch. When he finished the STPU demo onto which he put a magnet, he then turned the STPU over just before he walked to the LTPU to do that demo. Why did he turn over the STPU?

2) Of course it will have a gyro action because any independently non-secure object that has a pulsating coil and a magnet will create that effect. You can try and stop the vibration as much as you try it will not work.

3) First of all the LTPU in that video was on a towel so it could slide. Again magnetics and pulsing coil, nothing more. You guys are reading to much into that gyro thing. There is nothing new about that.

4) First of all he showed 800 vdc, XXX amps. At 1 amp, thats 800 watts or on 10 100 watt bulbs thats 80 vdc per bulb or 80 watts per bulb. Now look at a 120vac 100 watts bulb that's plugged into the regular wall plug. Look how bright it is. Now apply 80vdc to the same bulb and see how bright it is. Now compare that to his 10 bulbs. Totally different. So how is that possible???? Guess. 800 watts of lighting bulbs would have rendered that room totally illuminated. The brightness in the video was far from that. That's the way he does it. Illusion.

5) Those reports are so lamely, written with nothing but impressions. No amperage/voltage was taken while loaded. Nothing in the scientific method was used to determine anything with absolute certitude. Wonder why???

6) I had already proven that the LTPU has a raised center platform and given the gained height it could harbor about 200 9v batteries. Would you like to see how much spark you can get with that many batteries. Now use that energy in a pulsing method and the sky is the limit.

Regarding cutting the MTPU, if you build a battery loaded LTPU, would you know where to cut to not touch the batteries. Question: Who made the cuts??????

7) See #5 and #6.

8) Because UEC got paid also to shut up, so there was enough money to go around.

9) No one at the FBI new their asses from their elbows about the TPU device. They all really thought it was real, they paid shut up money and took off with the devices. But no one in the FBI or elsewhere will have enough brains to start up SMs devices and make them work. They will just rot away on a shelf somewhere or have already been destroyed, either way, I am sure it is to SMs greatest pleasure to not have to dig them devices up and explain everything. Ha. What a deal he got. Fake OU and get paid for life. That could be a best selling book.

That covers your questions. If you have any more relevant ones, please let me know.


@e2matrix

My reality is to find the truth and from what I can honestly observe of not only the SM videos, but the SM story, the SM person, his character, just listen to what he said to Jack Durban on his answering machine and you will get some idea of the most recent SM.

SM would not leave a bad plug in the wall too chance. He is too much of a control freak to leave a bad plug in the wall. He would have changed that plug and modified the new one accordingly. Also, just ask your self why SM almost always first plug bulbs into a wall socket. Why would you do that?

If I modified one of my wall plugs to receive a direct DC source from a power supply, let's say 24vdc, and instead of putting a AC bulb I plugged a DC bulb into that same wall plug and you can see the bulb lighting up, what would you think???? Printing 100watts on a bulb is childs play. I would show you the bulb after I unplugged it and you would think this is a real 100 watt bulb he is plugging onto the TPU. lol

About the voltage being lower when plugged with first and second bulb, man, come on already. You can't even do that with car batteries without seeing a voltage change. Not even a .01 volt change. No way.

@otto

I understand what you are saying and this was one of my greatest concerns that because of this post, you will think I am not a true TPUer. Sorry if you would think that and regardless of what you may think of me, i can only have the greatest admiration and respect for you. I am sorry again and hope that you saying this is a Black Friday, may be more a White Friday with all trying to bring to light so many of the inconsistencies of the SM TPU.

Just know that I have not stopped my TPU research. The post I made is just part of the research to delimit what was actually accomplished and what was not. This is part of the process. For me, SM produced reactive output and very possible he did it without any input energy. But that is all it was. The rest was all a ploy to maintain his standing because if he only showed a device producing reactive power that was very limited in what it could actually do, even without any input power, what is the commercial value. Hmmmmmm. For you and me, just making a reactive non-input device would be the top of the world regardless of any monetary value, but for SM, that was not enough. Hence all these well orchestrated and totally controlled videos. Sorry again.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #515 on: July 31, 2010, 01:17:54 AM »
Hopefully, no one will be discouraged by the latest empty claim that the TPU is fake and that the power comes from batteries or powerlines.

Can anyone here explain how a moving magnet induces current in a piece of wire?  If you do not know how a simple magnet and a wire interacts to induce current, then how can you ever hope to figure out any alternative energy device?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #516 on: July 31, 2010, 01:28:38 AM »
Great post wattsup,one thing the SM videos were  made in 1997 or 1998 and the video cameras response is different than todays video cameras,I` know this for a fact as ,I have a sony camcorder made in 1998 that works.
The video response will effect how the light bulbs look,
remember too the videos were a come on to lure suckers(investors) in,as to the character of SM your right on target.Is the TPU real ,unknown,50/50 chance real or fake.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #517 on: July 31, 2010, 03:33:33 AM »
@wattsup,   

thank you for taking to time to do the light bulb demonstration and to contemplate the TPUs.   I like your energy and your detective work...

now that I buttered you up, it's time for your spanking ....  :)


1)  In the OTPU video,  SM says the bulbs are not lit quite as brightly when powered by 91.2 volts DC or whatever.   Did you miss that?

2)  Are you familiar with the exposure function on your camera?.  Play with it and freeze it at a particular value.   You see, cameras automatically adjust the brightness, and if it wouldn't be for SM saying the bulbs are not as bright, I never would have guessed it from the video, they look just as bright to me.  It's the camera adjusting itself.  Your video is a side-by-side comparison of a bright bulb next to a dimmer bulb, so naturally the camera exposure is going to adjust after the brightest object in the scene, thereby making the other bulb look darker.



@all,

make no mistake, the Steven Mark videos demonstrate real power that is induced into the devices by a magnetic field frequency(s) as he claims very clearly in the first video.     I know what magnetic field is responsible, and I don't have to repeat myself, I think you all know my position very well.   

EM
« Last Edit: July 31, 2010, 06:25:21 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #518 on: July 31, 2010, 03:54:08 AM »
All of the TPUs are air megs (refer to Bearden).
I too put neos in the TPU and produced vibration. No big deal.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #519 on: July 31, 2010, 03:54:41 AM »
I think whatsup is trying to put things in perspective for him self and possibly find agreement from others.

It is a shame that he did not consider for one moment how the person whom  he does not know would fell about that.

None of the videos were made to put on the internet . If he read the story in full he might just apply some of it to the human aspects of it as it was not intended that a monkey diagram would be made available.

I spent my latter youth flying things that surely should not fly in the minds of those with no lateral thought  ..back then..now they are everywhere.

The number of stupid questions I had to answer back then was amazing.

Is it safe ? ... no Im dead and you are talking to a ghost

Is it legal?  Oh shit, I forgot my lawyer

How do you steer it ?  By learning step by step

Is it easy to fly ? Yes for me it is very easy ..you will crash if you begin at this point that you see me at now

Do you need a license?.... would you write me one please??!!

And the worst, and the best of all. "That looks like way too much fun to be legal!"


You have all been given good clues but so few are doing anything with them.

Otherwise all of your workshops would be full of electron tubes and clean hv supplies .

you would not complain just because you cant make one like in the video

I think that it is unlikley that many grasp the importance of the bits of jigsaw puzzle that have been given , let alone actually do something other than make up their own story.

This is not meant as criticisim because putting more wood on the fire serves no purpose but to enrage those who actually know for sure how wrong they are .
On that score 100% success is to whatsup, intended or not

NONE OF THE VIDEOS WERE EVER MADE FOR MASS DISTRIBTION

The uec video was however allowed to be posted.

Thats said .......


Its amazing how just when things are comming to a centre of focous ..this kind of bomb is dropped
Perhaps we are being controlled?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #520 on: July 31, 2010, 05:02:11 AM »
This is a quote from someone who has witnessed similar device to Steven's TPUs, perhaps the small one he built:



The first model consisted of a ring magnet less then three inches in diameter. Around the magnet were coils rigged as only he knows how to rig them, and another set of coils pass through the center of the ring.
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The second model is built around a ring magnet, the outside of which is seven inches and the inside is six inches.
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It is the inventor's theory that his machine draws its energy from the earth's magnetic field.



any guesses who it is?

EM

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #521 on: July 31, 2010, 05:09:59 AM »
@all,

make no mistake, the Steven Mark videos demonstrate real power that is induced into the devices by a magnetic field frequency(s) as he claims very clearly in the first video.     I know what magnetic field is responsible, and I don't have to repeat myself, I think you all know my position very well.   

EM

Still waiting to see someone demonstrate a decent degree of powerline induction at the same distance Steven was from those high tension lines.   Demonstrating the rotating compass as well would be an added treat.

You have all been given good clues but so few are doing anything with them.

you would not complain just because you cant make one like in the video

I think that it is unlikley that many grasp the importance of the bits of jigsaw puzzle that have been given , let alone actually do something other than make up their own story.

This is not meant as criticisim because putting more wood on the fire serves no purpose but to enrage those who actually know for sure how wrong they are .

Perhaps we are being controlled?

You bring up some very good points, Mannix.  Steven and others have given more than enough information to succeed, but what has everyone done with it?  As a whole, all you have done is fight amongst yourselves, gloat, argue, and talk the idea of the TPU to death. 

Souron painstaking worked his way through Steven's clues and even posted some of the best clues ever, such as his image with the sun, earth, and tpu.  Practically a "how to" guide.  All to no avail.

Someone called spherics gave plans for a tetrahedral device, but it appears no one bothered to build it or even experiment along the lines of what he spoke of.

Some were off to a good start, only to get disillusioned and spin off along tangents.

Oh well, someone will figure it out eventually.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #522 on: July 31, 2010, 05:14:29 AM »
This is a quote from someone who has witnessed similar device to Steven's TPUs, perhaps the small one he built:



The first model consisted of a ring magnet less then three inches in diameter. Around the magnet were coils rigged as only he knows how to rig them, and another set of coils pass through the center of the ring.
...
The second model is built around a ring magnet, the outside of which is seven inches and the inside is six inches.
...
It is the inventor's theory that his machine draws its energy from the earth's magnetic field.



any guesses who it is?

EM

how is the magnetic ring polarized?

what is the orientation of the coils?

The energy does not come from the earth's magnetic field, but it may allow it to work.  The difference is lack of understanding about the coils and how they interact.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #523 on: July 31, 2010, 05:17:23 AM »
All of the TPUs are air megs (refer to Bearden).
I too put neos in the TPU and produced vibration. No big deal.

By now, anyone trying to build a TPU knows that the MEG and the TPU are entirely different and that Bearden's endless rants about dipoles and conjugation will not help you build a TPU.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #524 on: July 31, 2010, 05:41:37 AM »
I truly beg to differ:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg250549#msg250549

Current progress is I have the drivers partially setup and am continuing to work on them this weekend.
I am trying to take this a step further. This new model is a version of the GK4 from the past but a little more refined. I see in this build the process is a somewhat closer to using just the coil activity. The process is what is important not the build itself. There are some new factors in this and a compilation of previous specs from others including Steven Mark, Spherics, Sauron and Bolt. One could almost surmise they are the same person. But that is another thread.

I hope that what I posted will be of use. I have only built from the mined nuggets.
Up to this point I thank everybody and their knowledge sharing. For without it we are one hand clapping in the dark.

--giantkiller. I press on...
« Last Edit: July 31, 2010, 06:06:52 AM by giantkiller »