Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16593748 times)

gyulasun · « **Reply #1860 on:** June 09, 2010, 02:48:12 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on June 09, 2010, 12:52:56 PM

Hello Pirate,

I guess this is the type of winding you are saying.
I think this manifests null inductucance if both parts have same current strength (same resistance, same inductunce)

Hi Baroutologos,

If you still have the two nails with the coils on them, would you measure the inductances with your L meter as follows:

Single coil on one nail, measures: ... uH

Bifilar coil on the other nail measures
between A-B: ... uH
between B-C: ... uH
between A-C: ... uH

If I am not mistaken, you would find the A-B or B-C inductances are nearly identical with each other and about 1/4 times as much as the single coil inductance on the other nail
and the A-C inductance is about 3.7-3.9 times as much as the single coils inductance on the other mail.

I uploaded your drawing a bit edited for the letters and I placed a dot for indicating the coils phases.

rgds, Gyula

EDIT Sorry but I mistyped the above sentence in bold: I wanted to write: as that of any single one coil in the bifilar coils and also the inductance between A-C is about the same as the single coil's inductance on the other nail.
For instance if A-B= 30uH then B-C is also 30uH and A-C is about 3.8*30=114uH. And then the single coil on the other nail is also about 114-120uH. Hope this makes it all clear.

Sorry for my mistype.

starcruiser · « **Reply #1861 on:** June 09, 2010, 04:12:40 PM »

Quote from: FatBird on June 09, 2010, 02:44:27 PM

DimaWari, Thanks for the GREAT post.

Does anyone have any idea what's in the Blue Box with the Big White Insulators on it?

Thanks.

A MOT

vrand · « **Reply #1862 on:** June 09, 2010, 05:48:24 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on June 09, 2010, 10:43:57 AM

Jean Louis posted a link to a simple
experiment with 2 nail electromagnets:

http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm

The question is, if the ohmic resistance of both electromagnet coils
are the same, why does the bifilar wound nail coil
have more B-field ?

Is this due to the switch on stray capacitance higher
switch-on current or why does this nail have more magnetism then ?

Regards, Stefan.

Maybe that is were the "extra energy" is coming from. Maybe tapping the Tesla Longitudinal energy?

That Coil windings could be the key needed to be able to successfully replicate the Kapanadze device, vs. just lots of joules into the ground.

That Tesla site also had other Tesla coil designs, such as the "Pancake Coil".

Flat Spiral Secondary and Longitudinal Waves Experiment
http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/FlatSpiralSecondaryLongitudinal.htm

Still lots of unknown variables on how Jean Louis replicated the Kapanadze design.

Regards

vrand · « **Reply #1863 on:** June 09, 2010, 07:47:07 PM »

Quote from: vrand on June 09, 2010, 05:48:24 PM

Maybe that is were the "extra energy" is coming from. Maybe tapping the Tesla Longitudinal energy?

That A windings could be the key needed to be able to successfully replicate the Kapanadze device, vs. just lots of joules into the ground.

That Tesla site also had other Tesla coil designs, such as the "Pancake Coil".

Flat Spiral Secondary and Longitudinal Waves Experiment
http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/FlatSpiralSecondaryLongitudinal.htm

Still lots of unknown variables on how Jean Louis replicated the Kapanadze design.

Regards

More speculation, since Jean Louis referenced that Tesla Bifilar coil url.

He is very familar with bifilar coils and used them in his TEP Project 13 yrs ago.

The Time Energy Pump project

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tepcoil.htm

Maybe Bifilar Coils is one of the keys to make this work?

Regards

gyulasun · « **Reply #1864 on:** June 09, 2010, 07:51:52 PM »

Quote from: vrand on June 09, 2010, 05:48:24 PM

...snip
http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm
Maybe that is were the "extra energy" is coming from.
...snip

Hi,

The problem is that there is no extra energy from that bifilar electromagnet, unfortunately.

See this link for serially connected coils mutual inductance.
http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/inductor/series-inductors.html

The bifilar coil as shown and connected and compared to a single coil in this link http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm cannot have extra energy. You start with a 100 turns single coil, then you make a 2 x 50 turns bifilar coil pair to a similar core and connect the bifilar pair in series, you would have the same inductance as the single 100 turns coil, hence the flux for both types of electromagnets are the same.

I tried to explain this in my earlier post but I had to edit it later because I mistyped a sentence. I hope it is now clear.

rgds, Gyula

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1865 on:** June 09, 2010, 08:24:45 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on June 09, 2010, 12:52:56 PM

Hello Pirate,

I guess this is the type of winding you are saying.
I think this manifests null inductucance if both parts have same current strength (same resistance, same inductunce)

Yes, I believe this is correct. If you tap a JT circuit any other way, it will not work so I believe this does demonstrate some increase or phenomenon that may or may not be related to JLN's work.

Thanks,

Bill

romerouk · « **Reply #1866 on:** June 09, 2010, 09:38:22 PM »

Here is my replication for Kapanadze-Kapagen style. No measurements yet as it is impossible to use digital equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a675_0onwjg

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #1867 on:** June 09, 2010, 09:42:16 PM »

@romerouk :

Very nice!
So how did you wind the coil exactly then?

Keep it up!

flathunter · « **Reply #1868 on:** June 09, 2010, 09:47:04 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 09, 2010, 08:24:45 PM

Yes, I believe this is correct. If you tap a JT A any other way, it will not work so I believe this does demonstrate some increase or phenomenon that may or may not be related to JLN's work.

Thanks,

Bill

Hi Bill,

I see a big difference between he way the JT is wound and the link on Naudins website ( http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm )....

The JT is wound so that the two wires which are joined together (point B in Gyulsans helpful diagram) are connected directly to the same battery terminal. This means the wires carry the current in opposite directions round the ferrite toroid, which I believe means the magnetic field is cancelled (feel free to cÃ²rrect me guys if im speaking arse....there are lots of you with way more JT experience than me).

Naudins link with the simple experiment has the two remaining ends of the wire (A and C on the diagram) connected to plus and minus on the battery...the current will be going in the same direction, so the magnetic fields will just add together. I think its the same with Teslas pancake bifilar...the current goes in the same direction....

What does everyone think?

flathunter · « **Reply #1869 on:** June 09, 2010, 09:56:30 PM »

Quote from: romerouk on June 09, 2010, 09:38:22 PM

Here is my replication for Kapanadze-Kapagen style. No measurements yet as it is impossible to use digital equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a675_0onwjg

Very nice build - looking forward to the details.

romerouk · « **Reply #1870 on:** June 09, 2010, 10:25:46 PM »

@xenomorphlabs

CCW - CW - CCW from the left to the right

gyulasun · « **Reply #1871 on:** June 09, 2010, 10:26:33 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on June 09, 2010, 02:43:11 PM

I meant that. My deviation for the same number of turns bewteen the two nails was 72uH to 71uH. (practically the same)

....

Hi baroutologos,

Thanks for this reply I have not noticed this earlier,

this is why I asked you to measure the coils on the nails again in my post #1861 above in this page, sorry for this.

The answer is now clear, as the two kind of electromagnets is wound as shown in the link, ( http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm ) the two give the same strength.

rgds, Gyula

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1872 on:** June 09, 2010, 10:34:21 PM »

Hi Guyla,
you are right, the coils have the same B magnet field,
but one has a higher capacitance.

This could effect the Q quality in a resonance circuit and
thus store more resonance energy if you use the coil in an AC resonance system.

Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1873 on:** June 09, 2010, 10:43:05 PM »

Quote from: romerouk on June 09, 2010, 09:38:22 PM

Here is my replication for Kapanadze-Kapagen style. No measurements yet as it is impossible to use digital equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a675_0onwjg

@romerouk
Well done !

How did you exactly build the coils ?
How did you connect the multiple center wires inside the coil ?
Does it really help to do this ?

How many Watts are you putting into your circuit about ?
How many lamps and wattage type did you connect there ?
Do they have the full brightness ?

Can you please post a circuit diagram ?

Many thanks and looking forward to new videos from you.

Regards, Stefan.

gyulasun · « **Reply #1874 on:** June 09, 2010, 10:44:20 PM »

Ok Stefan, thanks but in the schematic you or others tried to show on the setup, where is the bifilar coil? In the drawings I can see high voltage and low voltage coils coupled to each other but they have very different number of turns. Still they are bifilar?

rgds, Gyula

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