Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16593745 times)

haithar · « **Reply #1785 on:** June 07, 2010, 05:06:21 PM »

Quote from: bolt on June 07, 2010, 04:48:57 PM

The i/p versus o/p is not so important at this time as proof of concept.

no the overunity part IS the proof of concept. Otherwise you just transform some voltages and power your loads with it, nothing out of the ordinary. Of course you can use voltage and power a load with it when the earth is on the other side. this is standard 1-phase plug use.

broli · « **Reply #1786 on:** June 07, 2010, 05:11:04 PM »

Quote from: scorpio on June 07, 2010, 04:23:49 PM

Many many light bulbs. When will it selfrunning...?

It doesn't look like they are as bright anymore. So don't know how accurate that wattage is. Simple test can be to hook them up to regular outlet and compare brightness and power input.

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #1787 on:** June 07, 2010, 05:27:00 PM »

Mr. Naudin made it clear now:

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My current Kapanadze generator v3.2 is only an attempt of replication of the Tariel's original device based on the Nikola Tesla fuelless generator.

People put too big expectations at a too early stage on his first efforts to realize this.
It is best to wait and see how his improvements and the "learning by doing" will scale this up and then only think about Input/Output relationships.

haithar · « **Reply #1788 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:10:21 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 07, 2010, 05:27:00 PM

Mr. Naudin made it clear now:

People put too big expectations at a too early stage on his first efforts to realize this.
It is best to wait and see how his improvements and the "learning by doing" will scale this up and then only think about Input/Output relationships.

In my opinion this is the opposite of how ou should be researched. I mean if you have a 90% efficient device which works on some type of voltage transformation that is really great and cool, as it's really efficient, but that's still not overunity. And in researching it further you can probably get a bit better percentage, but the gap to overunity cannot be made if the technology doesn't allow for it. And that is most likely the case if your device works in a way but not overunity.
The gap from <1 to >1 isn't a thing which can be done with a bit of improvement, that is the fundamental thing really.
All these 'almost there' news are pointless in the end, because no one can make the 'last' (but really the first) step to achieve a cop of >1.

the case would be a different if you put in a specific amount of electrical energy and show that there is more heat produced than put in. this is the first step (already a overunity effect), the next would be to make it more efficient in a way, that you could get electrical energy + heat (still overunity) out of it, and the greatest success would be a large portion of usable energy and the rest heat.

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #1789 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:25:42 PM »

Quote from: haithar on June 07, 2010, 06:10:21 PM

All these 'almost there' news are pointless in the end, because no one can make the 'last' (but really the first) step to achieve a cop of >1.

That is not quite true.
Just one example: Research the Kromrey converter. COP of 1.5 and prognosed max COP of little less than 3.

And according to Bolt, you can look at NaudinÂ´s current set-up as being still out-of-tune or simply tuned to a low gain frequency range.
KapanadzeÂ´s spark gap points to a higher frequency.

There is devices that are confined to operate in the area of COP 1-3 and there is devices that go into the many hundreds or closed looped.

bolt · « **Reply #1790 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:45:56 PM »

he already now posted its OU COP>8 which is better then I thought i was not expecting a COP more then 5.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/kapagen2100a.jpg

regarding the lights they may well be fully lit as it bright daylight outside. Whatever its OU even if its COP 2!

All we do now is wait for the paid forum saboteurs to arrive to debunk everything as usual and to stop people building this simple system. Use RAW unrefined for hot water heater or 2Kw electric fire for free which is not fussy on precise voltage and frequency it will save $/eu/pound 1300 a year. In any case how hard is it to make 2 or 3 of these rather then one big one.

Once you have free electric also have free water using humidifiers that will save another 500 a year.

Usage is ENDLESS even at 1kw. grow crops in harsh winters, irrigation in drought, Underground heater cable on driveway only your house in winter has a snow free drive while back yard has heated soil and crops growing like the Caribbean and 83F through out heated rooms, pumped water supplies etc etc.

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #1791 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:53:21 PM »

COP>8 !

ThatÂ´s very good news.

Can be only exactly stated of course once he measures the output with the same device and not by only judging the lamp brightness as they could be be not 100% lit.

Could be replicable if Naudin would explain whatÂ´s inside the pipe and exactly how the coils are interconnected. I never made it beyond the coil interconnection in my attempts.

bolt · « **Reply #1792 on:** June 07, 2010, 07:05:04 PM »

need ferrite torridal cores try several types include SMPSU cores stacked maybe 5 or 6 or ferrite bar this become high frequency transformer operating range 500Hz to 15000Hz from HV HF spark to impinge on LF high current earth winding. its a single thick core runs through middle. Thick bunch of multistrand "earth" cabling is good.

grizli · « **Reply #1793 on:** June 07, 2010, 07:14:00 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 07, 2010, 06:53:21 PM

COP>8 !

ThatÂ´s very good news.

Can be only exactly stated of course once he measures the output with the same device and not by only judging the lamp brightness as they could be be not 100% lit.

Could be replicable if Naudin would explain whatÂ´s inside the pipe and exactly how the coils are interconnected. I never made it beyond the coil interconnection in my attempts.

Naudin started to smell like mister SR saying he will NOT publish any circuit for our own safety ..

Still, whats Naudin and SR secret, and many experiemnters here tried all this with MOT , many many no OU attempts:
First guess is no REAL ground or in this case double ground... this could me most important
Second is whether is there ferrite core inside or not ? BOTH SR and Naudin have "clogged" ends of pvc tube... so....

And probably two blue coils have reversed field , or RH and LH.... right side of blue coil as I can see is the same direction as thick yellow coil

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #1794 on:** June 07, 2010, 07:18:47 PM »

Quote from: bolt on June 07, 2010, 07:05:04 PM

need ferrite torridal cores try several types include SMPSU cores stacked maybe 5 or 6 or ferrite bar this become high frequency transformer operating range 500Hz to 15000Hz from HV HF spark to impinge on LF high current earth winding. its a single thick core runs through middle. Thick bunch of multistrand "earth" cabling is good.

The thing is that itÂ´s not that easy. Matrix-ru and Hvlabs have a couple of dozen experimenters that did exactly that in the course of this year with no gain after SR came up with his replication.
Part of the secret is the coil interconnection.

vrand · « **Reply #1795 on:** June 07, 2010, 08:39:24 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 07, 2010, 07:18:47 PM

The thing is that itÂ´s not that easy. Matrix-ru and Hvlabs have a couple of dozen experimenters that did exactly that in the course of this year with no gain after SR came up with his replication.
Part of the secret is the coil interconnection.

That and maybe +10 more differences that we can not see on the videos.

We all look forward to Jean-Louis Naudin continuing to show fellow "free energy" researchers, as he has done over the years, his exact circuit specifications so others can replicate this very interesting energy design.

Regards, Mike R.

forest · « **Reply #1796 on:** June 07, 2010, 08:45:24 PM »

hmm...can we make it safe by manipulating output frequency ? I guess it is harmful because of wide band of output frequencies of low range.If we make it like Tesla working at ONE frequency for example 20khz then I guess due to skin effect we would eliminate dangers of huge power electrocuting impatient experimenters.
Still further we need a way to learn how to make it zero electric current device (cold electricity)

e2matrix · « **Reply #1797 on:** June 07, 2010, 08:45:51 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 07, 2010, 07:18:47 PM

The thing is that itÂ´s not that easy. Matrix-ru and Hvlabs have a couple of dozen experimenters that did exactly that in the course of this year with no gain after SR came up with his replication.
Part of the secret is the coil interconnection.

Also as I think I mentioned previously it may be important for the center rod (or heavy wire?) to be off center. This was gleaned from info I found at hvlabs. Most of the apparently working coils I've seen appear to have something coming out slightly off center.
I would agree Naudin doesn't have a complete circuit yet compared to TK's and it would certainly be useful to get some better output measurements. I also call BS to not post details of construction simply because it's dangerous. Just post the warning in big letters and that's all that's needed. Sheeeezzz it's dangerous to cross the street but if there's a warning what more is needed?

DreamThinkBuild · « **Reply #1798 on:** June 07, 2010, 09:15:03 PM »

@Baroutologos,

From the book: The Gateway to Understanding: Electrons to Waves and Beyond
By Matthew M. Radmanesh

This is only a preview page but I found it interesting.
http://books.google.com/books?id=HwzXige6_WAC&pg=PA339&dq=displacement+current&lr=&cd=25#v=onepage&q=displacement%20current&f=false

"...9.7 MAXWELL'S QUEST

Having added the displacement current term to the first equation, Maxwell had a set of four electric and magnetic field equations in free space, which actually predicted that there could exist a "self-propelled and self-sustained electromagnetic wave motion". This set of four equations implied that any disturbance causing a changing electric field must produce a changing magnetic field, which in turn, must produce a changing electric field and so on and so forth. That is, energy is alternately exchanged between the two fields and the wave phenomena advances outward in this process..."

@Bolt, I know what you mean about heating. I run an outdoor furnace right now for heating in my house (water and general heat). I'm in a rush against time to find another method of heating because local town/state laws want to ban the use of outdoor furnaces to force you to pay for oil or grid electric so they can get their hands in the tax revenue. With a COP>8 this has got my attention. Even if we have to reverse engineer it.

@e2matrix, I won't show you how to butter toast because the butter knife has a sharp edge and it might be dangerous. I can understand the frustration but I also can see Jean's perspective of limiting liability. He should have a exclusion of liability form you have to sign before downloading the plans if he doesn't want any problems.

leo48 · « **Reply #1799 on:** June 07, 2010, 09:26:06 PM »

Warning lamps are lit only less than half power then the COP is less

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