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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16593829 times)

DimaWari

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1770 on: June 07, 2010, 09:43:09 AM »
Does anyone thought about this?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1771 on: June 07, 2010, 10:32:36 AM »
INFO
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http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/
VIDEO
http://www..com/watch?v=NvqH0-dum0A

@FreeEnergyInfo

OK, I missed the surge protectors, but not essential.

exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1772 on: June 07, 2010, 10:49:34 AM »
So do you guys think a MOT feeds itself with a signal or could it possibly mean that the grey cable feeds the input signal into the MOT from the VT-3 ???
It is clearly connected to a mains box in his first video.
Where is the problem with that?

Maybe he will be able to close the loop in a future video.

And Naudin never claimed OU with this.
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Naudin claims he has duplicated Kapanadze's device.
Kapanadze claims its device is a selfrunning generator (see his patent, the primary power source can be disconnected after 2s because a part of the output is fed back).

Therefore if Naudin claims he has duplicated Kapanadze's device and Kapanadze's device is OU, Naudin claims to run an OU machine.

If Naudin has not OU (and we have no evidence he has, because we see the likely grid connection not disconnected during operation), then he has not duplicated Kapanadze's device and should not claim it. It is as simple as this.





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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1773 on: June 07, 2010, 11:31:50 AM »

DimaWari

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1774 on: June 07, 2010, 11:57:34 AM »
Thanks Scorpio. Anyway, hope this pdf file would shed some light http://www.teslasociety.com/teslarec.pdf

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1775 on: June 07, 2010, 12:05:06 PM »
@FreeEnergyInfo

OK, I missed the surge protectors, but not essential.

Surge protectors is laymen term they are GDT's  glass discharge tubes and YES they ARE essential because they are 250 volt GDT's and prevent the light bulbs going over voltage and blowing!

So far this is a "proof of concept" device and he makes no claims about OU at this time only showing that the ground kapandze method can work. It needs a LOT more refinement before this can be looped and lot more tuning with careful selection of caps and coils to tune device into load.

It also needs at least TWO or THREE more stages because there is too much load on the spark gap primary. When this is running correctly the spark gap should operate at much higher voltage, higher frequency and very little current to give a faint blue corona "fizz".  Its pretty obvious right now the primary spark is drawing a LOT of power up to 1000 watts which i would expect as each stage only has a COP around 5 at best more like 2 if untuned.

To do this properly needs stage 1 neon supply or FET switcher to give 6Kv 25khz gain 5

stage 2    6kv upto  25kv increase frequency to around 1 meg gain 5 (volts up more joules)

stage 3   second spark gap 25kv to 10kv shift frequency 500hz gain 5

stage 4 10kv to ground induction 500hz to 50Hz/60Hz  requires about 3 to 5 microwave oven caps across coil to set the frequency.  Gain 5

now we have gain 5 * 5 * 5 * 5 = > COP 625

A FET HF 50 watts oscillator drive becomes 50 * 625 = 31,250 watts so even if you screw up real bad on tuning its not so hard to get 10KW in practice. OR  driver becomes a mere 5 watts with 3.1kw o/p now looping is a no brainer.


Still this is a step in the right direction because Naudin will hopefully make full disclosure not there was ever much to disclose it has been known for 100 years!


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1776 on: June 07, 2010, 01:12:06 PM »
@Bolt,

you talk with great confidence. If you could prove the 1% of what you say then you are real genius man.

broli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1777 on: June 07, 2010, 01:25:11 PM »
There is some new text on his page.
 
 
Quote from: jnaudin
Due to the presence of High Voltage and the High Power output of the Kapagen, the electronic diagram is not published here because of the use of lethal High Voltage.

 hmmmm.
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1778 on: June 07, 2010, 01:55:32 PM »
You must quote the whole text:

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Due to the presence of High Voltage and the High Power output of the Kapagen, the electronic diagram is not published here because of the use of lethal High Voltage. User of this document should be very carefull and experienced in High-Voltage electronics to try anything out ! If you do it the risk of any results is just yours. I take no responsibility of anything that might happen

So he says it's everyone his own risk experimenting anyways and he does not take responsibility. Ok, good. Therefore he will not post the circuit. But then he claims users should be careful with "this document". Which document is he talking about???
A video clip with a blue box, bulbs and a coil with some spare notes is not a document. It does not even clear up, nor prove anything at all. We don't even know *what exactly* he has build or "replicated". Just because it looks like a Kapanadze-Device does not mean it is one. And what about the power source? No word about that... ridiculous...

Besides, this is exactly the kind of "documentation" I don't like in many of JLN "replications".

bolt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1779 on: June 07, 2010, 01:57:35 PM »
"Due to the presence of High Voltage and the High Power output of the Kapagen, the electronic diagram is not published here because of the use of lethal High Voltage. "

LOL now that is funny! ...back to the dark ages then.

Well i guess 95% of you wont try to work it out even though its been published over and over. That said using a MOT is deadly and unnecessary to give the initial high voltage. Better to use a neon supply and build up the required stages as Don Smith designs you dont even need a spark gap which are noisy. A GDT is silent and cleaner as Don Smith only used spark plug in his earliest design and all later systems used GDT's.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1780 on: June 07, 2010, 02:55:27 PM »
Surge protectors is laymen term they are GDT's  glass discharge tubes and YES they ARE essential because they are 250 volt GDT's and prevent the light bulbs going over voltage and blowing!

So far this is a "proof of concept" device and he makes no claims about OU at this time only showing that the ground kapandze method can work. It needs a LOT more refinement before this can be looped and lot more tuning with careful selection of caps and coils to tune device into load.

It also needs at least TWO or THREE more stages because there is too much load on the spark gap primary. When this is running correctly the spark gap should operate at much higher voltage, higher frequency and very little current to give a faint blue corona "fizz".  Its pretty obvious right now the primary spark is drawing a LOT of power up to 1000 watts which i would expect as each stage only has a COP around 5 at best more like 2 if untuned.

To do this properly needs stage 1 neon supply or FET switcher to give 6Kv 25khz gain 5

stage 2    6kv upto  25kv increase frequency to around 1 meg gain 5 (volts up more joules)

stage 3   second spark gap 25kv to 10kv shift frequency 500hz gain 5

stage 4 10kv to ground induction 500hz to 50Hz/60Hz  requires about 3 to 5 microwave oven caps across coil to set the frequency.  Gain 5

now we have gain 5 * 5 * 5 * 5 = > COP 625

A FET HF 50 watts oscillator drive becomes 50 * 625 = 31,250 watts so even if you screw up real bad on tuning its not so hard to get 10KW in practice. OR  driver becomes a mere 5 watts with 3.1kw o/p now looping is a no brainer.


Still this is a step in the right direction because Naudin will hopefully make full disclosure not there was ever much to disclose it has been known for 100 years!

So even distribution of voltage. Maybe.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1781 on: June 07, 2010, 03:18:10 PM »
Unfortunately he did what he always does.  Putting together some photos and videos of an attempted replication, but being vague with the results, for example instead of measuring output vs. input energy he just shows the 230W input and also some barely lit 2300W nominal power lamps as the output.
Then he adds some random effect which could be used in the device and spices it with a warning about HV so he won't have to release more details, people go crazy but in the end he hasn't shown anything substantial.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1782 on: June 07, 2010, 04:23:49 PM »
Many many light bulbs. When will it selfrunning...?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1783 on: June 07, 2010, 04:30:31 PM »
@FreeEnergyInfo

OK, I missed the surge protectors, but not essential.

ok ok ok ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1784 on: June 07, 2010, 04:48:57 PM »
He has shown a lot already and its clear that exciting the displacement ground currents can work through a very simple coil which has been reduced closer to the required 240 volts by using 5 turns overlay.

The i/p versus o/p is not so important at this time as proof of concept.

It also proves that the ground acts as a capacitor of some fairly large unknown value and the wider the spacing and thicker the earth wire the more current is available. This is because the distance between the 2 earth points takes a "sample" of the ELF ground currents of which the wavelengths is a many thousand miles long. o/p coil = L + (R resistance of ground wire) + C ground = f. So add more C to reduce f to 50/60Hz. Jaundin has no additional cap right now on his coil so the lights could be running at several hundred hertz or higher.

People often say well i measure only 2 volts 40 milliamps between my 2 metal ground rods how can there be REAL current. EASY when you measure something you measure ONLY the difference between the 2 points. If i sit on a power line and measure 2ft to my left with one probe then 2ft to my right with the other probe i will see maybe 3 volts on my meter yet im sat on a 125kv power line! What happens if i create a disturbance on that line using a capacitor, resistor, inductor etc i create a PD now my meter will see thousands of volts depending on the type of disruption created.

One earth can work but requires higher frequency operation as then the "capacitor" becomes the difference between the earth and the "sky".  Wavelength is now 100's of metres.  For no ground operation VHF operation is required so the difference as a potential becomes  a "virtual" earth on one side and a PD on the other side like the TPU. Wavelength is now 10's of metres. Higher frequency = more joules (voltage) pumped per second.

Still higher frequency operation is electrostatic flat air capacitor made using sheets of  aluminum and copper and acetate dielectric using casimir effect where operating frequency is UHF with harmonics to several gigahertz. Wavelength is now millimeters as PD operates between the Plates of the capacitor.

 The smaller the plate gap the higher the frequency and operating voltage while the size of the plates exposes more area to the etheric frequencies which increases the farads or CHARGE at a risk of dielectric break down the more joules are available.  This is THE most POWERFUL system as shown by Don Smith Dipole.

Tesla showed a simple sheet capacitor which is earthed on one side and antenna the other. This passive cap will acquire a charge to be built up on the plates albeit not powerful.

Operation is basically the same. Disturbance of the ambiance will reply with GAIN.