Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16594271 times)

markdansie · « **Reply #1800 on:** June 07, 2010, 11:43:48 PM »

@leo48
I agree fully with your observation. We should have at least a volt and amp meter so we can measure the load. The lights look a bit dim and could well be below the input power.
On the input we need a scope to measure he true input as any devices have been made that can trip meters. With a scope we can determine the true input.
Unitl then (although this is a great project to follow) we are just making assumptions.
Kind Regards
Mark

iflewmyown · « **Reply #1801 on:** June 07, 2010, 11:56:01 PM »

Why should we poke at Naudin? He is under no obligation to share anything with us. Surely after all the years he has spent researching he knows that a lamp is not at full wattage unless the voltage and current are correct. If one person sues him because of their stupidity then his life is changed forever. They don't even have to win to cost him a fortune. I know. I also would like him to build a device, test it, and send it to me so that I can copy it for free. What he has shown is more than I have accomplished on my own and I am grateful.
Garry

markdansie · « **Reply #1802 on:** June 08, 2010, 12:07:34 AM »

@ Gary
No one is poking fun at Naudin. He is wel respected over the world for his work. he normally does not make too many claims...others do that for him. However my comments were directed to the may here who read into things that are not there. many of us have both here and in our own experiences seen where results can be misleading to not following correct procedures when measuring devices. When itcoms to the crunch it has to stand up to the scientific method.
I am sure Naudin would be the first to close loop such a device and he may well do oneday.
We have seen many devices here over the years that appear to be overunity only to find that input or output measuring techniques were inadequate and in most cases were fooling the electronic instrumentations used.
So please do not think we are critical, we are just pointing out th obvious before too many people get carried away. Like I said its a ood projectto follow.
Kind Regards
Mark

bolt · « **Reply #1803 on:** June 08, 2010, 12:28:20 AM »

Kapandze made this system using hard to find patents from Tesla books long before the Internet was born. He also managed it from scrap TV parts and nothing more then an old Avo meter and soldering iron clearly in very harsh poor conditions in Georgia.

Point I am making is stop looking for excuses OU has been around forever and reproduced thru hundreds and hundreds of patents. For those with half decent lab of scope and PSU's etc this is kids stuff.

Remember it took over 20 years before people started making Bedini toys. One bicycle wheel, some wire, few resistors, a tranny, a few magnets. Its OU COP >3 on a good day low power toy good for a million volumes of denial thru-out the net about how it works or doesn't.

Its NOT a lack of information its a lack of will power and requires the 99 monkey syndrome before others start to try it.

I tell you this IF i made this I would NOT disclose the precise details. You know why? Because people are LAZY and i don't blame anyone for making something OU then think why the heck should i just give it away to LAZY bloodsuckers that cant be bothered to at least TRY.

It don't get much simpler to use a MOT (very dangerous better to use NST or car coil) and a coil of wire and 2 screwdrivers stuck in the back yard.

grizli · « **Reply #1804 on:** June 08, 2010, 01:48:30 AM »

Quote from: bolt on June 08, 2010, 12:28:20 AM

Kapandze made this system using hard to find patents from Tesla books long before the Internet was born. He also managed it from scrap TV parts and nothing more then an old Avo meter and soldering iron clearly in very harsh poor conditions in Georgia.

Point I am making is stop looking for excuses OU has been around forever and reproduced thru hundreds and hundreds of patents. For those with half decent lab of scope and PSU's etc this is kids stuff.

Remember it took over 20 years before people started making Bedini toys. One bicycle wheel, some wire, few resistors, a tranny, a few magnets. Its OU COP >3 on a good day low power toy good for a million volumes of denial thru-out the net about how it works or doesn't.

Its NOT a lack of information its a lack of will power and requires the 99 monkey syndrome before others start to try it.

I tell you this IF i made this I would NOT disclose the precise details. You know why? Because people are LAZY and i don't blame anyone for making something OU then think why the heck should i just give it away to LAZY bloodsuckers that cant be bothered to at least TRY.

It don't get much simpler to use a MOT (very dangerous better to use NST or car coil) and a coil of wire and 2 screwdrivers stuck in the back yard.

He he if OU would be so simple we would already have OU devices in general use ...

Kapanadze made it , but many many others failed .. and still there is no prove Naudin made it ... waiting for scope images...
Naudin spent many many years making ou devices , but I am not sure has he ever made closed loop so far ? and possibly he with this KApanadze method discovered much more OU than everything else before..

SR claimed he made it and refused to give anything out ...
Naudin made HUNDREDS of possibly OU devices with FULL documentation and now when there is maybe much more OU he decided to keep data for himself..
Seems history repeats again, and again and again ...
And WILL REPEAT AGAIN if people will think like you said your post..

slapper · « **Reply #1805 on:** June 08, 2010, 05:26:23 AM »

Quote from: baroutologos on May 04, 2010, 01:10:17 AM

Then the lamp is lit by appling it to copper tube endings! Have not seen anything like that before. By
the way, i spent few hours with it and i concluded that the tube acts as one turn to the parallel winding.

Any ideas if this single turn would be a good primary for an autotransformer?

Another dumb question. Is the gray tube that Naudin uses for the Kapagen plastic or steel?

I've been blamed for seeing patterns where none exist. $:-\$

Thanks.

nap

e2matrix · « **Reply #1806 on:** June 08, 2010, 05:51:19 AM »

I'm quite sure that gray tube is an insulator (definitely not steel) and very likely schedule 80 PVC pipe or similar. Inside the pipe though I think an iron, ferrite or heavy copper wire is making a single run through the middle (but offset a bit).

slapper · « **Reply #1807 on:** June 08, 2010, 05:54:04 AM »

The clamps on the ends are throwing me off.

slapper · « **Reply #1808 on:** June 08, 2010, 06:00:47 AM »

Okay. I get it. Schedule 80 PVC with perhaps a metallic
tube in the inside. That's where the clamps come in. doh

Sure wish we could narrow down on that material.

Thanks.

nap

bolt · « **Reply #1809 on:** June 08, 2010, 06:12:53 AM »

nothing fancy about the tube you can use a cardboard tube work just fine.

vrand · « **Reply #1810 on:** June 08, 2010, 06:38:20 AM »

Quote from: bolt on June 08, 2010, 06:12:53 AM

nothing fancy about the tube you can use a cardboard tube work just fine.

What is inside the coil tube?

20 min into Kapanedze generator 1hr demo video he completely disconnected the 12VDC car battery(?) and the 5 light bulbs are still lighting up.

http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/free-energy.geo.avi

On the Kapanedze video are some closeups of the coil, but unknown what is inside the coil and inside that spark gap box. Also the spark gap is very small compared to JLN spark gap where one see the smoke coming from the sparks.

Regards

forest · « **Reply #1811 on:** June 08, 2010, 07:30:44 AM »

bolt,

do you think that secrecy is related to our situation in 2012, galactic centre eclipse ?I have the feeling that such devices take energy from Earth magnetic field (which is part of "wheelwork of nature") and it's forbidden to weaken it before we pass galactic equator.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1812 on:** June 08, 2010, 08:06:49 AM »

Quote from: forest on June 08, 2010, 07:30:44 AM

bolt,

do you think that secrecy is related to our situation in 2012, galactic centre eclipse ?I have the feeling that such devices take energy from Earth magnetic field (which is part of "wheelwork of nature") and it's forbidden to weaken it before we pass galactic equator.

Forbidden by who?

Bill

exnihiloest · « **Reply #1813 on:** June 08, 2010, 09:43:54 AM »

Quote from: bolt on June 07, 2010, 06:45:56 PM

he already now posted its OU COP>8 which is better then I thought i was not expecting a COP more then 5.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/kapagen2100a.jpg
...

COP > 8 is not at all obvious on the photo. Even under day light, we see that the bulbs are far from producing bright light. Imho 211W might be enough for such a light.
I will be convinced of OU only when the system will be looped, as in Kapanadze's patent. Why did JL Naudin not yet loop it? That is what every body is waiting for, isn't it?

baroutologos · « **Reply #1814 on:** June 08, 2010, 09:45:14 AM »

I saw the progress made today Naudin made.

He uploaded the "2Kw" video and gave two links on MIT lecture concerning displacement current in general and in a capacitor in specific accompanied with a lot of mathematic formulas.

On the first,
i just do not get what Naudin is trying to show. From his initial experiments his device suffers from "impedance" match. Never the output lamps he ever put have achieved full brightness.
Now, the "2Kw" video shows lamps smoldering, making difficult even to tell if the COP is close to unity.
(If i were Naudin, i would try via capacitors to impedance match the load to nominal brightness and then make statements as 2Kw.)

Anyway. The whole projects is a bit mess till now. What's the displacement current's real role there, how grounds contribute and why does not match impedance is a question mark.

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