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Hoppy

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #225 on: May 07, 2009, 10:32:26 PM »
Thanks Hoppy. So, what is your conclusion? I take it you meant he's adjusting some kind of aided mechanism? I thought he was aligning the spindle. We can speculate for all we can but the ultimate proof is whether someone else with a good pair of hands and the same set up can get it going or that MyLow will let some learned person/s investigate further. Anything else is conjecture and if you even think otherwise, you might be subjected to censorship!

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chrisC

That's it Chris, he's clearly aligning the spindle.

Hoppy

AbbaRue

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #226 on: May 07, 2009, 11:36:54 PM »
Neo. magnets 2.5mm thick can be purchased for very cheaply.
If these were placed underneath the Alnico magnets they would  keep
the Alnico magnets magnetised without changing there physics.
Just a thought to consider.
Also one could construct steel parts in the exact shape and size needed
and place Neo Magnets under the steel parts to magnetize them.
This is based on the assumption that neo magnets themselves are to
strong for this device.
 

tournamentdan

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #227 on: May 08, 2009, 03:06:09 AM »
Hey guys and girls, can I ask a question? Lets say if mylows motor works, and that is a big IF. But lets say it does. From the videos it looks like there is not much torque for this motor. I doubt that it will turn a generater. So it will be just a big paper weight that spins.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #228 on: May 08, 2009, 03:11:07 AM »
Hey guys and girls, can I ask a question? Lets say if mylows motor works, and that is a big IF. But lets say it does. From the videos it looks like there is not much torque for this motor. I doubt that it will turn a generater. So it will be just a big paper weight that spins.

That's really a question for the other thread - this one is about the building of replications. The mod should probably move it, and this reply, over there.

But beside that, ANY form of continous self spinning is the biggest scientific breakthrough of the century, because it turns upside down the conventional scientific view of how magnets work. And while it might not be able to turn an alternator, it will certainly turn a hobby motor, and they work fine as a generator. Who's to say what is and isn't an amount of power worth generating, and if a small one works chances are you can scale it up to turn a bigger generator.

tournamentdan

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #229 on: May 08, 2009, 03:29:20 AM »
That's really a question for the other thread - this one is about the building of replications. The mod should probably move it, and this reply, over there.

But beside that, ANY form of continous self spinning is the biggest scientific breakthrough of the century, because it turns upside down the conventional scientific view of how magnets work. And while it might not be able to turn an alternator, it will certainly turn a hobby motor, and they work fine as a generator. Who's to say what is and isn't an amount of power worth generating, and if a small one works chances are you can scale it up to turn a bigger generator.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   I am sorry you are right, I should have sent that to a nother thread. Let me ask you a nother question . I thought his motor was a scaled up version. I just can not see something that big power something so small. So my question is, doesn't a perpetual motor have to over come the energy that made the magnets?

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #230 on: May 08, 2009, 03:52:45 AM »
We don't know yet, because we don't know the effect on the magnets. If with good material magnets it does not demagnetize them, and it can spin continously, even if you only get a pico-watt of continous energy out of it, it will eventually make up for the amount of energy taken to make the magnets, and keep on going. But like I said, too much is unknown about the mechanics behind the process.
And regardless, even if it never makes up the energy taken to make the magnets, it still turns conventional magnetic theory on its head, because the text books state it's impossible to get continous motion with just magnets - ie they say magnets can't store and release energy (although it's recently been scientifically shown that energy can be stored in magnetic spin (http://www6.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Main/1,1770,65985-1;66008-3,00.html)

Sorry about the OT,
Andrew

Justalabrat

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #231 on: May 08, 2009, 08:43:48 AM »
Hey guys and girls, can I ask a question? Lets say if mylows motor works, and that is a big IF. But lets say it does. From the videos it looks like there is not much torque for this motor. I doubt that it will turn a generater. So it will be just a big paper weight that spins.
Don't you see that this is just a baby step, to have something that just has enough power to turn itself.  Once it's proved to the world that it does turn by itself, it will be analyzed by scientists and engineers to figure out why it turns. And once they understand the principle they will expand on it and make it more powerful!

nyctuber

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #232 on: May 08, 2009, 01:31:24 PM »
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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #233 on: May 08, 2009, 01:39:30 PM »
Hi Justalabrat
You are right of course,but not a baby step,getting from 99% to 101% is a small step for man but-----
Neal Armstrong, I think
peter

AnandAadhar

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #234 on: May 08, 2009, 03:12:53 PM »
A study into Mylow's strategy of positioning the rotor magnets. Picture 1 shows how measured from the middle of the bars there is a deviance relative to the mechanical center of spin of about 2mm. Picture 2 shows the alignment with zero deviance when we measure the positioning from the edge of the magnets in the top row to the middle of the magnets in the opposite row.

This would support the theory on the operation that the offset of the center of magnetic spin from the center of mechanical spin might be decisive in catching the time energy of space. Abstracted: Et=Rl x Rv. In words: The machine produces pure time energy as a product of the linear channelled rotation (Rl) of the magnetic track combined with the vortex effect of an off center magnetic focus (Rv).

Doing tests of my own show that setting off the center of magnetic spin facilitates the spin in one direction at the cost of the other (including stator polarity reversal). Thus there is directional preference depending the positioning of the magnetic focus.  This can thus work in favor as much as it may work against operation.

tournamentdan

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #235 on: May 08, 2009, 04:14:43 PM »
A study into Mylow's strategy of positioning the rotor magnets. Picture 1 shows how measured from the middle of the bars there is a deviance relative to the mechanical center of spin of about 2mm. Picture 2 shows the alignment with zero deviance when we measure the positioning from the edge of the magnets in the top row to the middle of the magnets in the opposite row.
                                                                                                                                 It looks like in those pictures the camera is not at a 90 degree angle of the mechanical point. Which would give an illusion of the deviance. I like what you are doing but we would need the actual motor to get such measurement.

AnandAadhar

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #236 on: May 08, 2009, 04:37:17 PM »
                                                                                                                                 It looks like in those pictures the camera is not at a 90 degree angle of the mechanical point. Which would give an illusion of the deviance. I like what you are doing but we would need the actual motor to get such measurement.
I don't know if you've ever heard of stereometrics. It doesn't matter what angle you look:  three points making a straight line stay a straight line whatever your spacial operation of angle.

broli

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #237 on: May 08, 2009, 07:22:05 PM »
It's a good thing he doesn't go on the media yet. It's best to have numerous replications first. Then the report will contain "even searching on youtube we find numerous replications of this motor", which is a big thing. And I bet them telling it's completely open source ready to be build by anyone will blow some heads off.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #238 on: May 09, 2009, 12:50:04 AM »
It's a good thing he doesn't go on the media yet. It's best to have numerous replications first. Then the report will contain "even searching on youtube we find numerous replications of this motor", which is a big thing. And I bet them telling it's completely open source ready to be build by anyone will blow some heads off.
In one of the videos Mylow said that no one would be able to replicate his motor.

dean_mcgowan

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #239 on: May 09, 2009, 02:47:02 AM »
In one of the videos Mylow said that no one would be able to replicate his motor.

Un-replicable huh .. I wonder why ?

Anyone starting to think there is a motor hidden somewhere ?

I have my bullshit meter hitting the redzone over here .. anyone want to come and check that its
calibrated correctly ?

Cheers,

Dean