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Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion  (Read 148629 times)

Offline markdansie

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #195 on: May 06, 2009, 04:14:29 PM »
Hi
first point ...all those attempting replications I would have a vertical adjustment for the stator rig as well....I think Mylow suggested it.
As for some of us who were critical of the earlier video's...although Mylow took offence to it he did listen and then produced the most credable video's to date on a glass table and pulling it appart. This went a long way to convincing some of us hard core skeptics that he was geniune and answered many of our questions.
On a personal note, I am not sure why he has not allowed an independent evaluation or testing. This would put everything beyond doubt. I believe this is a reasonable request given some of the past claims we have endured from others over the years
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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #196 on: May 06, 2009, 04:33:41 PM »
TK
Sir
 What specific truth[being suppressed ] are you talking about?
Chet

The truth that there good reason to doubt MyLow's invention.

There really seems to be a lot of reliance on faith, which is very unscientific.  An amateur claims to violate a well-established, basic, law of physics with an invention so simple that surely, if that invention was capable of violating the laws of physics, someone would have done it already.

The response from the youtube community (aka your average person) is "not likely," as it should be.  The response from actual scientists, well there is none, because a real scientist would not devote 5 seconds of time to this crap.  But here it's like people are rallying behind this guy, when all we have is videos.  Not a single replication.

I do not know if you have ever seen magic on TV, but do you think it's really magic, or there is some trick?

Offline ALFPARTS

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #197 on: May 06, 2009, 05:06:10 PM »
Hi
first point ...all those attempting replications I would have a vertical adjustment for the stator rig as well....I think Mylow suggested it.
As for some of us who were critical of the earlier video's...although Mylow took offence to it he did listen and then produced the most credable video's to date on a glass table and pulling it appart. This went a long way to convincing some of us hard core skeptics that he was geniune and answered many of our questions.
On a personal note, I am not sure why he has not allowed an independent evaluation or testing. This would put everything beyond doubt. I believe this is a reasonable request given some of the past claims we have endured from others over the years
Mark

Yes, I'd say that this is a pretty darn credible replication, being the second one that I have seen since 1978....... As for this:"On a personal note, I am not sure why he has not allowed an independent evaluation or testing. This would put everything beyond doubt" .... I think you know the reason already but if you care to hear what's going on concerning this I can clue you in.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #198 on: May 06, 2009, 06:23:39 PM »
Sorry @TK but taking pot shots at Mylow as you did in that post via his wife, his cat, his bird is not in the forums' best interest. Why can't you not see this for what it is instead of hiding behing suppression statements. What did I supress. You insulting Mylow. If that is suppression, then so be it my friend, but the words came out of your mouth, not mine.

You fail to understand that when an inventor like Mylow is on this forum, we as a host must assure that he is well treated. We have no choice. We're not saying kiss anyone's ass. You have a divergence of opinion, Say so, but just treat the guy with respect. The guy went through years of wheeling his magnets to get to this point and guys just jump all over him with so many jump-the-gun statements. Unfortunately we did not do a good enough job in this case and we see the outcome. The majority of @members here do their utmost to keep this forum in a respectful stance to then attract the right guys that have somethign new to show, only to then leave it to some newbie or redneck to hack away at the guy. This is the danger of free forums but the abuse has to stop otherwise this forum will go the hell in a handbasket.

I dare any member here that thinks this is supression to go back to post No. 1 of the main thread and read through the first 135 pages which I have been "cleaned" to my best ability, then continue on through all the other pages up till the present which has not been cleaned thus far due to lack of time and I also wanted to wait for @stefan to return and try and patch things up with Sterling. I dare you to do this and then come back and tell me which posts and the resulting rebuttals after page 135 shoud be removed. Just try it.

@TK you can just read from page 135 onwards cause I imagine you don't have the time to read it all, but anywhere that the word Mylow is used, replace it with @TK in that you are the inventor and you are the one being attacked.  Tell me how cozzy you will feel after all that to then tell me if you would continue on with this through this venue.

Then, if you think I find it pleasing to have to baby sit a forum of adults when I prefer spending my time doing my own research and trials, then this is another big mistake. But someone had to do it and I can tell you that in the future this will be the norm and not the exception especially if someone comes in to make a disclosure. For this we will need another 2-3 more moderators cause I ain't doing this alone, no way. But the chosen moderators will have to have a minimum history on the forum. Maybe some can ponder this while we work out the fine points.

In a nutsheel, the only thing important here is the wheel. All this other stuff is only facts of life that could have been ignored but have been discected to hell and back. Mylow says he received 3000 e-mails and guys start analysing this comparing it with video views and say that is impossible the guy is not honest. Cripes. It was only a figure of speech like when you say "I am getting millions of calls meaning you are getting way more then you can really handle and you are overwhelmed". But guys just take every chance or excuse to analyse everything about anything and all you get into is one big mess and one pissed off inventor. The wheel. Concentrate on the wheel. That's what Mylow or any other inventor would expect of you guys to do. Not to meddle in every wink or furt.

@stefan has banned members outright from the whole forum for less then 10% of what has been going on on this thread. We used to have a very respectable forum because there was a low tolerance to smut and also a low tolerance to hard core, insulting skeptics. That's when this forum really shined. That's where we need to go back too.

Anyways enough said. I am not saying anything anymore about this. I will just refer members to this post. The rule applies to all including you AND me.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #199 on: May 06, 2009, 06:42:05 PM »
You may delete this post, edit it and so on.

"Same goes for all those mentioned by Mylow."
WTF??

So if he disagrees with some one, or if he mentions some one, they are on the list??

 

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #200 on: May 06, 2009, 06:58:24 PM »
TK
Sir
 What specific truth[being suppressed ] are you talking about?
Chet
You'll have to ask wattsup--he deleted the post I made, right after LostCause's nice long post.
I think I may have pointed out that a thousand dollars cash will buy a lot of cat food and bird seed.
But there were some other truths in there too.

@wattsup: Go ahead. Replace all instances of "Mylow" with "TK" and I will be glad to address each and every case. For one thing, if I actually had something that behaved like Mylow's wheel, for the reasons he says it does, I would take TK's money in a heartbeat, just to see him eat crow and shut up.
Wouldn't you?

(And, if you will only recall correctly, it was Mylow who first involved his cat, his bird, and his wife in this topic. Since he brought them in, I say they are fair game. Could you, just for the record, quote a "pot shot" I took at them, so the rest of us will know what to avoid?)

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #201 on: May 06, 2009, 10:38:44 PM »
How many people have bought his plans, and attempted a replication?



The truth that there good reason to doubt MyLow's invention.

There really seems to be a lot of reliance on faith, which is very unscientific.  An amateur claims to violate a well-established, basic, law of physics with an invention so simple that surely, if that invention was capable of violating the laws of physics, someone would have done it already.

The response from the youtube community (aka your average person) is "not likely," as it should be.  The response from actual scientists, well there is none, because a real scientist would not devote 5 seconds of time to this crap.  But here it's like people are rallying behind this guy, when all we have is videos.  Not a single replication.

I do not know if you have ever seen magic on TV, but do you think it's really magic, or there is some trick?

I think this is strange too...  In reality, people have absolutely no scientific reason to believe this guy's claims UNLESS they have seen it working in person, or replicated his experiment themselves...        People are going by this logic...   "He seems like an honest guy, therefore he must be telling the truth"      and even...  "The MIBs tried to interfere with his experiments, therefore he must be telling the truth!"  ...  This is just weird!   

There is a  (small) chance his magnetic motor works, and might not be in any violation any known physics laws... Or it could work and be utilizing new physics..   But until I see a few independent working replications I will have serious doubts.      I'm always extra skeptical about people trying to profit from their designs designs (who talk about MIBs, etc)..  Especially when nobody has produced a working replication!




Offline Omega_0

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #202 on: May 07, 2009, 04:53:07 AM »
Someone's replication, just a start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j89GaFDnllk

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #203 on: May 07, 2009, 04:57:13 AM »

Offline Justalabrat

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #204 on: May 07, 2009, 05:27:51 AM »
The stator magnet is easily available and it goes by the name of Arc Magnet for motors.

In these videos Mylow talks about the magnets obtained from the DC motor.

This video shows it the first time, but says its not magnetized the right way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXaaw63l520&feature=channel_page#t=08m45s

This video shows it mounted on the stator arm and it's been re-magnetized the right way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-oVrVBRGY&feature=channel_page#t=03m40s

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #205 on: May 07, 2009, 06:54:45 AM »
you should remember though that mylow's stator magnets, while they are from a motor, have been remagnetized. This has been mentioned by sterling on a number of occasions, they were remagnetized with a device from allmagnetics.com if I recall correctly. Most motor arc magnets will have N or S on the inside of the curve / outside of the curve, where now mylow's have the poles at each end of the arc, so N and S are at the points.

Andrew

Edit: I'm guessing it was done with this: http://www.allmagnetics.com/education/magnetizer.htm

Offline Omega_0

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #206 on: May 07, 2009, 07:24:03 AM »
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
That makes it somewhat difficult to get that stator.

Another replication attempt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5okwNTmaU

Offline X00013

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #207 on: May 07, 2009, 07:39:08 AM »
@ dixiechick, this is who i am  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebm4HQ95GHk


     
« Last Edit: May 07, 2009, 08:25:41 AM by X00013 »

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #208 on: May 07, 2009, 07:48:46 AM »
Hey Mylow, this says it all for you,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJIBtqunHY
« Last Edit: May 07, 2009, 08:27:09 AM by X00013 »

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #209 on: May 07, 2009, 08:06:47 AM »
And if nothing else, watch this next link, and listen to the quote at the end, and I do mean listen to the end quote,  http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/brian_cox_what_went_wrong_at_the_lhc.html
« Last Edit: May 07, 2009, 08:28:29 AM by X00013 »