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Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion  (Read 118918 times)

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« Reply #151 on: May 04, 2009, 02:38:27 PM »
At ridgeway near Avebury England April 2009 a crop circle has appeared showing the pattern of the second Mylow motor. What is even more astonishing is that a second circle near Roundway Hill England also from April 2009 shows the pattern of the IPMM disc I've been experimenting with lately: the whirling moons I use on my rotor plate and the circles in the middle where I use ringmagnets these days to investigate the possibility of a magnet motor. How remarkable: aliens confirming our research into the different rotor set ups for our magnetic engines!

I have constructed a Mylow rotor assembly to replicate his engine. The second version of Mylow killed my scepsis. Alas has Mylow stopped his YouTube uploads and account. Project magma does not exist anymore. He coudn't take the heat any longer and has restarted underhttp://www.youtube.com/user/magneticmotor1  with more video's. So I will try a replication. I do not have the proper magnets yet, but will first conduct a few experiments with the stuff I have.

Crop circle Photo's © Lucy Pringle:
http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2009/apr.shtml
My IPMM thread (with the IPMM crop circle):
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4449.new.html#new
Stirling Allen confusing the Mylow Circle with the IPMM circle:
http://pesn.com/2009/05/03/Mylow-magnet-motor_crop-circle/


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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #152 on: May 04, 2009, 02:54:18 PM »
@ AnandAadhar

At least it keeps the lads off the street at night and out of the pubs - LOL.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #153 on: May 04, 2009, 06:21:17 PM »
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Not the offset I meant.  They look the same size and strength which may not work.  Plus they look to be in close proximity which would basically just turn it into a larger field if the polarity is the same. And if the crown as someone mentioned, is induced into all the magnets creating an equilibrium in its entire circumference to eventually stop the motion, then that setup may not work. If the crown is indeed stopping it, then probably it needs to be discharged or overcome by some type of mechanical magnetic kicker underneath the plate to keep the momentum going. Or possibly another geared stator thats thrust into place after so many revolutions. My apologies if this has been stated previously.
 A time lapse video with magnetic film, and a steady revolving motorized plate would tell you how fast the crown accumulates if it hasn't been done yet. All field interactions should be photographed in my opinion and databased.
 In retrospect on the weaker opposite polarity stator,this may disrupt the crown but eventually degrade the magnets over time.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #154 on: May 04, 2009, 09:41:09 PM »
Apparently mylows machine is working with this configuration. The question now is how long can it run.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #155 on: May 04, 2009, 10:06:14 PM »
What's that near the table leg that can be seen at 7:51 - 7:53 in his latest "last" video ??
Why the brown cardboard or placemat? It wasn't there before, in the non-running glass table vid.
See how light that stator mount assembly is. How is it pushing the wheel, without itself being pushed?
Once again, either the stators are NOT providing the pushing torque, OR the device violates Conservation of Momentum, and is hence the most momentous discovery since the chronometer.

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« Reply #156 on: May 04, 2009, 10:09:23 PM »
Hi all.

I just watched withgreat care and attention- Magnetmotor1 (MyLow)'s latest vid.
I think its a superb vid and id like to share this observation-
1. Yes Defo 2 stators, slightly appart and offset by approx half the width of one of the stators.
2. he articulates that stators are approx 2.5" gapping away from the surface of the rotor magnets upper most surfaces.
3. the rig on initial start-up, seems to take ages to begin accelerate, and it looks like the rig(platter as he calls it) seems to energise before it can attain an acceleration force;- for accelerate it does.
4. my best guess on max speed attained before he stops it- 75-80 rpm.
5. from last (previous to latest vid), there are wear marks on base of the centre bearing support that look like rub marks from the outer race of his single bearing device- i note it's shielded with some sort of elastopolymer dust/grease cover. if its dragging, y, and is it deliberate or an oversight? it could go even faster unless that drag is its vertical mass support and it has to bear on something since the bearing shown has not shoulder to sit the rig(platter) onto.
6. it was easier to stop than he made out.
7. the spacing gap between the sets of rotor magnets line-out on the alu platter, i think give time to phase loop and repulsing field and maybe producing some variant  of induction.

Any thoughts u guys/gals? ???

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #157 on: May 04, 2009, 10:21:46 PM »
Why the brown cardboard or placemat? It wasn't there before, in the non-running glass table vid.
A. he says to stop the stator arm/mount from slipping.


Conservation of Momentum, and is hence the most momentous discovery since the chronometer.
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Could be Al. Hope so eh. Worth 1200 of anyone's dolla.

U could replicate this one without a motor, with proper bearing, poss a linear bearing, no/yes?

It could be a 'Runner' as we say inthe trade!

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #158 on: May 04, 2009, 10:27:23 PM »
Mylow (Magnetmotor1) indicates that the stator(s) are being pulled down onto the rig(platter)

How could that be if the device is acting in a repulsive mode unless the early stages of rotation somehow energise the whole device prior to its acceleration phase?

I know the acceleration is really low down on the scale of things, but there is no dout is does acccel.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #159 on: May 04, 2009, 10:28:06 PM »
Only now, there is danger of the stator mount slipping? But not before?

Once again, what's that near the table leg at 7:51 - 7:53 ??

Want to bet this video disappears soon?

Yes, I could still reproduce what's been shown. Especially if I am allowed to use a placemat, carpets, glass tables with big crossbeams. But they aren't strictly necessary.

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« Reply #160 on: May 04, 2009, 10:55:18 PM »
Funny how ur apparent and completely understandable scepticism is exactly the same feeling lots of forum members had over the OC-MPMM device shown over a year ago, and after Harvey's comments over at Fizzx, are being shared again by some (me not included it that since i have not enough info on it all)

Mylow seems quite gen guy, not terribly articulate, but has on the surface of it, built a superb device that i think merits further investigation- and less taking the micky out of.

Ur last vid- The challenge, was more theatre than science if u dont mind me saying, and u loaded ur 'replication' with so much equipment one could only sigh and dismiss.

I read all ur postings over on Fizzx, and in the early days u seem sincere and curious to explain the WhipMag rig- y so negative now Al/TK?

Come on- use that fantastic kit that u have access to, and make an exact replica of Magnetmotor1's device and show the world what true Scientific Method application can produce.
C

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« Reply #161 on: May 04, 2009, 11:21:52 PM »
@ Tinsel Koala/ Al

Looked again, with larger screen and u 'Whats that at 7.71-7.53

I think its the split of the moulding on his large television  base thats in the corner- a piece of the fascia i think.
 its got definate curved shape to it.

well spotted tho hawk-eye.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #162 on: May 04, 2009, 11:31:23 PM »
Only now, there is danger of the stator mount slipping? But not before?

Once again, what's that near the table leg at 7:51 - 7:53 ??

Want to bet this video disappears soon?

Yes, I could still reproduce what's been shown. Especially if I am allowed to use a placemat, carpets, glass tables with big crossbeams. But they aren't strictly necessary.

It was interesting what you did with the electric motor to show it won't cause  platter rotation immediately, that's something I didn't know. But Mylow definitely had his hands off his device much longer, with no spin at all. Add to that the fact that he took it apart before and after and I don't see how it could possibly be fake. That's not to say a skilled person couldn't fake it if so desired, but Mylow doesn't appear to be that guy.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #163 on: May 05, 2009, 12:25:14 AM »
Funny how ur apparent and completely understandable scepticism is exactly the same feeling lots of forum members had over the OC-MPMM device shown over a year ago, and after Harvey's comments over at Fizzx, are being shared again by some (me not included it that since i have not enough info on it all)

Mylow seems quite gen guy, not terribly articulate, but has on the surface of it, built a superb device that i think merits further investigation- and less taking the micky out of.

Ur last vid- The challenge, was more theatre than science if u dont mind me saying, and u loaded ur 'replication' with so much equipment one could only sigh and dismiss.

I read all ur postings over on Fizzx, and in the early days u seem sincere and curious to explain the WhipMag rig- y so negative now Al/TK?

Come on- use that fantastic kit that u have access to, and make an exact replica of Magnetmotor1's device and show the world what true Scientific Method application can produce.
C

These are fair points and I will address them.
The "OCMPMM" thing comes up a lot. Have you ever seen the movie, "Fight Club"? The situation is something like that. Let's put it this way: You aren't going to see me and "al" in the same room, at the same time.
You may recall that about the time of the "OCMPMM" heyday, an imposter (from Italy, I believe) registered and logged on to this forum using the nick "alsetalokin", and even ripped off a poor-res copy of Al's little Tesla Coil Wireless Power Plant that he used as his icon on FizzX. I think Al got pretty pissed off about that, but never mind. So the "alsetalokin" nick, on this forum, was taken, and in the rudest way.
Now, when I saw the outrageous BS wombat trail that Archer Quinn was leading everyone on, I signed up here and I made him (and everyone else) the same offer: One Thousand American Dollars to the person who showed a running "Sword of God", or any gravity wheel or magnet or combo wheel. But I put a deadline on that one: 3 months AFTER the promised 20th of June date (Archer's birthday.) I've still got the money, needless to say, and not a single person even tried to take it.
What gets me riled up is when these people solicit funds and start profitting from their escapades. I wasn't concerned about MyLOW until Sterling started selling plans for a "working" magnet motor. I wasn't concerned about Archer until he started potty-mouthing off and trying to sell stuff and accepting money.
The only possible similarity between Al's behaviour and device, and MyLOW's, is that they both showed a machine that LOOKED LIKE it was doing something unusual. Other than that, their behaviour has been completely different. Believe me, if Al or anybody else tried to profit from the OCMPMM, I'd be all over it in a heartbeat. (insert winky here)
Oh, and there's also the fact that Al's implementation of OC's basic design idea revealed some solid and replicatable interesting magnet behaviour that nobody expected, and indeed has what is called "face validity" for extracting free energy from the motion of magnets. And this behaviour, let me repeat, has been independently replicated and has shown reduced rundown friction. Correct me if I'm wrong, please...

I've got a pretty darn close replication of the MyLOW platform; I used a different axle and bearing arrangement, and a solid chassis to keep the whole thing together, because stupid me, I thot that the stators would have to _push_ against the rotor to turn it, and I wanted exactly repeatable positioning instead of MyLOW's intuitive subjective methods. But now I see that I will have to duplicate his bearing and mount, because it seems to me that his should be more tippy than it is, and I'd like to investigate this.
Now, it takes me 10 or 15 minutes to set up a new config of rotor magnets, and then at least 10 minutes for a single powered rundown trial with instrumentation. (BTW I have some pretty graphs of rundown RPM vs time already.) And I won't even consider making a conclusion unless I have at least 5 trials in a given config. And I have a day job, and I try to sleep occasionally. Yes, the challenge to MyLOW, while serious, is mostly theater, but the research is real, quantifiable, quantitative, and repeatable. And, so far, as I have said, I have seen no hint, in this type of device, of any net positive thrust. And I have asked for the other replicators to report if they have seen any increased rundown times from any circular arrangement of magnets like this--well, you've seen the responses.

Yes, MyLOW seems sincere. So does Uri Geller. Yes, unlike Uri, MyLOW's device merits further investigation. Especially since it violates CofM, and I can think of a bunch of ways to get extremely rich really fast off of that fact alone, even if it cannot be scaled up.
Too bad...

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« Reply #164 on: May 05, 2009, 12:33:23 AM »
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Too bad...
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@TK:
I think you're right in doing the replication correctly and backed up with scientific data. We'll be even more excited if you can truly and independently verify MyLow's discovery is no AQ phenomena!

cheers
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