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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 832450 times)

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1410 on: May 11, 2009, 12:32:34 AM »
Quote from: Omnibus on May 11, 2009, 12:13:11 AM
@spinner,

There are already numerous posts with the mentioned rigorous proof. No need to repeat it once again.
What if I ask you nicely? Will you repeat that already mentioned rigorous proof once again,
please?

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As for resisting from time to time, you'll need to restrain from posting when you don't contribute anything. Unless you just enjoy posting because you like to see your own text posted in a forum. That may be slightly annoying for some, you know. That hooks up with the abuse problem. Not only can you abuse your simulation program but you can abuse a discussion by constantly nagging about something you can't quite figure out yourself.
Lol, I made +350 posts in 4 years, while you've made allmost the same amount just in this thread. I'm sure your contribution will be remembered, OmniBot.
If this contribution of yours doesn't pan out, you can always return to your previous fixed ideas.

Talking about abuse, eh?
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hansvonlieven

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1411 on: May 11, 2009, 12:39:40 AM »
Quote from: X00013 on May 11, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
@Hans, ur killing dusty's build, the thing looks kick ass, no?

Beautiful build, no doubt, Pity it has no chance of working.

Hans von Lieven
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hansvonlieven

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1412 on: May 11, 2009, 12:48:32 AM »
This is a replication of the Andy motor, which is the same kind of idea. If ever there was a beautifully built motor it is this one built by Ken Hegemann.

Of course, it does not work either.

Hans von Lieven
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Omnibus

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1413 on: May 11, 2009, 01:02:06 AM »
SMOT is overunity beyond a shadow of a doubt -- proven as rigorously as science requires. SMOT produces excess energy discontinuously. No need to discuss it here. It's a done deal. Until recently I didn't have a proof for continuous production of excess energy. This last week, however, things changed and now I have the rigorous proof for that too. The discussion with @mondrasek helped me a great deal in that and also the latest analysis by @eisenficker2000 which showed me that I've even been conservative in my conclusion. What I'm aiming at now is, like I said, to create a tool for optimization of the construction with the aim to maximize the effect. Proving that Abeling's wheel is a perpetuum mobile may live without such tool but it would be nice to have it to reach a certain closure on this project, the way SMOT project is now closed with a definitive conclusion.
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1414 on: May 11, 2009, 01:06:02 AM »
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Talking about abuse, eh?

Abusing the forum is when you don't have anything to contribute, even if you post occasionally, as you do. I'm contributing and therefore the number of posts I'm submitting can't be a measure for abuse.
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Omnibus

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1415 on: May 11, 2009, 01:10:59 AM »
Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 11, 2009, 12:48:32 AM
This is a replication of the Andy motor, which is the same kind of idea. If ever there was a beautifully built motor it is this one built by Ken Hegemann.

Of course, it does not work either.

Hans von Lieven

The fact that it doesn't work only proves that he hasn't been able to produce a working model. Nothing more than that. If I ask you to play Paganini like Kulenkampf and you disappoint everybody it won't mean Paganini is unplayable.
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spinner

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1416 on: May 11, 2009, 01:17:00 AM »
Quote from: Omnibus on May 11, 2009, 01:02:06 AM
SMOT is overunity beyond a shadow of a doubt -- proven as rigorously as science requires. SMOT produces excess energy discontinuously. No need to discuss it here. It's a done deal. Until recently I didn't have a proof for continuous production of excess energy. This last week, however, things changed and now I have the rigorous proof for that too. The discussion with @mondrasek helped me a great deal in that and also the latest analysis by @eisenficker2000 which showed me that I've even been conservative in my conclusion. What I'm aiming at now is, like I said, to create a tool for optimization of the construction with the aim to maximize the effect. Proving that Abeling's wheel is a perpetuum mobile may live without such tool but it would be nice to have it to reach a certain closure on this project, the way SMOT project is now closed with a definitive conclusion.
Oh, dear...

You're a Perpetual motion addict. "PMA"?
Are there any "PMA" groups which could help here?

"SMOT is overunity beyond a shadow of a doubt"
Ouch.
After tens of thousands of posts from people who tried to explain it to you...

Fascinating. Phenomenal.
We're saved.
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hansvonlieven

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1417 on: May 11, 2009, 01:21:32 AM »
See what I mean Spinner?

Hans
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Omnibus

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1418 on: May 11, 2009, 01:22:32 AM »
Quote from: spinner on May 11, 2009, 01:17:00 AM
Oh, dear...

You're a Perpetual motion addict. "PMA"?
Are there any "PMA" groups which could help here?

"SMOT is overunity beyond a shadow of a doubt"
Ouch.
After tens of thousands of posts from people who tried to explain it to you...

Fascinating. Phenomenal.
We're saved.

You may restrain from posting such gibberish.
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Omnibus

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1419 on: May 11, 2009, 01:23:56 AM »
Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 11, 2009, 01:21:32 AM
See what I mean Spinner?

Hans

Oh, good that there's @spinner to have a shoulder to cry on, having nothing else to say.
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1420 on: May 11, 2009, 01:26:20 AM »
Some folks are just fans of useless banter. That’s OK as long as it doesn’t clutter the thread too much. We have work to do here.
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1421 on: May 11, 2009, 01:28:01 AM »
@Hans
You bet... ;)
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1422 on: May 11, 2009, 02:29:13 AM »
Hans and Spinner, for God's sake, don't be so negative.
Give this Abeling patent at least the advantage of the doubt.
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1423 on: May 11, 2009, 02:37:39 AM »
Quote from: Tink on May 11, 2009, 02:29:13 AM
Hans and Spinner, for God's sake, don't be so negative.
Give this Abeling patent at least the advantage of the doubt.

Why?  ???

Hans von Lieven
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1424 on: May 11, 2009, 02:52:47 AM »
Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 11, 2009, 02:37:39 AM
Why?  ???

Hans von Lieven

Because it's proven theoretically that it really is a perpetuum mobile. That's why.
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