Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243029 times)

Mannix · « **Reply #2595 on:** August 02, 2007, 01:37:55 AM »

I see a new status tag here

I wonder what it takes to be a TPU-elite member?

Super God · « **Reply #2596 on:** August 02, 2007, 01:42:16 AM »

Haha I think the only person qualified for that group would be Steven Mark. He's the only one with a working TPU, after all

z_p_e · « **Reply #2597 on:** August 02, 2007, 07:08:19 AM »

It seems that most if not all folks here believe that Steven used two frequencies in one of the larger TPU's...True?

Well, IMO that is not a correct assumption. In the video SM says "first frequency...now the second" yes, but is that really what he meant?

No. Stick to what he has said in his material.

Number one clue is we know that he used at least 3 frequencies.
Number two clue is we know that he used different frequencies with each collector in the higher power units.

So what then does it all mean?
I already know the answer; will anyone here think about it and tell?

Let's see.

Darren

Motorcoach1 · « **Reply #2598 on:** August 02, 2007, 08:14:05 AM »

@Z.E,P mmmm well this is a true statement : when you transmit a signal there has to be a recive signal , ok transmit 22kx then the recive window is 144 meg mm get the drift ,, dosen't matter what you transmitt it at as long as you use a multplyer in the recive end with out AGC mmmm what evr that is dahh ,,,Theres an answer in the answer

Mannix · « **Reply #2599 on:** August 02, 2007, 09:04:02 AM »

Quote from: z_p_e on August 02, 2007, 07:08:19 AM

It seems that most if not all folks here believe that Steven used two frequencies in one of the larger TPU's...True?

Well, IMO that is not a correct assumption. In the video SM says "first frequency...now the second" yes, but is that really what he meant?

No. Stick to what he has said in his material.

Number one clue is we know that he used at least 3 frequencies.
Number two clue is we know that he used different frequencies with each collector in the higher power units.

So what then does it all mean?
I already know the answer; will anyone here think about it and tell?

Let's see.

Darren

Ok darren !

My little toy at the moment uses one freq to energise the field ring before i introduce the other one or 2 ...which use that energy for their own fields...

its a mess really, but interesting

a way to go here ...

turbo · « **Reply #2600 on:** August 02, 2007, 09:23:33 AM »

it's not hard to see there are two switches,
the first one he toggles twice and this he calls the primary frequency.
the second one he toggels once and this he calls the second frequency.

now what would that mean?
M.

BEP · « **Reply #2601 on:** August 02, 2007, 10:21:53 AM »

I'll not muck things up more than needed so here is a link to info posted elsewhere that may be of use to this thread.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2788.0.html

Yes, I'm using tubes. Probably not the right ones yet but I'll play it by ear.

>>EDIT
Oh, Yes.
Starting heater current for a tube? Some tubes will conduct before the heater warms up. Not many. The ones that come to mind were the 'Acorn' series. They were'nt much bigger than a power transistor, rated for UHF/VHF and were almost 'instant on'. Some larger glass types would also do the same but I believe some were gas filled and others had a special coating on the cathode.

turbo · « **Reply #2602 on:** August 02, 2007, 09:33:22 PM »

The verry first glow

the 5u4gb was spitting out a riddicilous 893 Volts...
and i wanted to tickle it some more but i decided not to because of the cheap screwdrivers i use, they might flash thrue the insulation when reaching the 1Kv range.
It's real power here and i know i need to be carefull.
tomorrow i will disconnect the heater and put it on another transformer in which i can vary the frequency.
well actually i can vary the frequency of both transformers but this one is stabilized at 50 Hertz.
then i am going to switch in the full wave silicon rectifier circuit and the real hunt for the kicks and the interaction between the transformers will begin

i just have to see the verry intresting things Steven mentiones,with my own eyes...

Marco.

Thaelin · « **Reply #2603 on:** August 02, 2007, 11:33:47 PM »

Did a bit of looking around and see that this tube has a max of 550v per plate rms. You may well be driving this tube wayyyyyyy past its range of useability. Any purple haze inside or the plates getting red??? That will shorten the life of the tube drasticly.
May I suggest you check out www.pmillett.com and d/l an old ARRL hand book and look in the schematics to find the very circuit you are using. It will give you a safe setup for the use of the tube. Vintage 1959 is a great one to look at. Cheers and good hunting as tubes are still the backbone of audio far as I care. Nothing like them.

thaelin

innovation_station · « **Reply #2604 on:** August 02, 2007, 11:51:43 PM »

Quote from: -[marco]- on August 02, 2007, 09:23:33 AM

it's not hard to see there are two switches,
the first one he toggles twice and this he calls the primary frequency.
the second one he toggels once and this he calls the second frequency.

now what would that mean?
M.

i thing that he is starting the osc with the first flick a serge then he turns on the frist freq wich is a beat freq and second freq is another beat freq but of inverted wave and opsite dirrection so 2 beat freq humm probaly the same combo of freqs or a verry slight diffrence between them if the 2 beat freqs were the same or verry close to the same then you could use just 1 tube oscolator to generate the 2 beat freqs

is

turbo · « **Reply #2605 on:** August 03, 2007, 02:33:17 AM »

the transformer was ripped out of a jukebox and the tube foot was still on the wires ,it was rated 220VAC so i drove it with that and i do not know why it gave that high voltage but the specs were as if it was in it's origional state....
also its a dual rectifier so i guess that stands for two plates meaning two times 550 volt which is certainly within the limit.

M.

Mannix · « **Reply #2606 on:** August 11, 2007, 02:08:34 AM »

Hi all,
there is a thread called Tubes that should will get interesting if people participate physically.

But for the others including, but not limited to the invisible "TPU elite"

I was out the back paddock the other day and I had a conversation with my horse..I asked him what he thought about the current state of things .this is what I think he said, as i remember it.

Remember that I said, 'We probably would never have developed the TPU without tubes". If all we had to work with was solid state devices then we most likely would have failed"...
This does not mean that you can not use solid state devices it just goes to say that tubes made it a great deal easer for the development.
We did manage to design and develop solid state control devices and we learned several tricks in order to be able to do so.
I really don't see how it would be any easier to develop a TPU today using solid state devices then it was thirty years ago... However, I read where people seem to be proving my statements and measuring strange unexplainable peaks of power greater then the sum of input. I fear however that they will spend a great deal more time perfecting the TPU for ultimate operation then would have been necessary back in the days we developed it originally. However, an engineer who worked on the project with me mentioned that I should just leave them alone because they might just discover an entirely new method of generating power that is not as involved as the basic TPU system we developed.
Perhaps he will prove to be right...

At that point the horse stopped speaking, but What would a horse know anyway?

good hunting, whatever your methods

Lindsay Mannix

Super God · « **Reply #2607 on:** August 11, 2007, 02:11:38 AM »

I wish my horse could talk.

innovation_station · « **Reply #2608 on:** August 11, 2007, 02:27:11 AM »

lindsay im glad to hear the horse still talks cuz with out talking horses where would we be and.... without dreamers where would we be ?

please all do expect the most of me cuz i will come through tubes are the way to understand the tpu i will play with real power but i must be sure all is well first must understand tubes b4 i play with them and im in the process of learning as we all are

dont think i just run my mouth cuz i will show other wise but in the right time when i feel im ready to play with fire cuz it is fire you know and i dont wanna get burned do you ?

must learn all i can first to be safe

is

turbo · « **Reply #2609 on:** August 11, 2007, 06:05:31 PM »

Didn't that 6BQ7-A of yours have a six point three volt heater?

I would love to play with that but unfortunatly i don't have any....
oh well guess i will have to go with what i got

M.

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