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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 965656 times)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2655 on: August 21, 2007, 04:30:35 AM »
Hello guys

Did anybody already try this?

Lenz law.  ;D

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2656 on: August 21, 2007, 04:34:55 AM »
Hi brnbrade,

I have tried simular concepts, but with no luck.   Have you tried this concept and observed anything unusual?  Is that a ring of iron or just a conductor like copper?  What are you thinking?

EM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2657 on: August 21, 2007, 04:44:16 AM »
Hi brnbrade,

I have tried simular concepts, but with no luck.   Have you tried this concept and observed anything unusual?  Is that a ring of iron or just a conductor like copper?  What are you thinking?

EM

Hi EM

No. I no tried. It was only a thought.
Possibly works better iron  .
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2657 on: August 21, 2007, 04:44:16 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2658 on: August 21, 2007, 05:32:46 AM »
EM,

When you say it could possibly be electric, do you mean electrostatic (i.e pure potential)?

How would one do that? Could SM be revolving an electrostic field vs. a magnetic one?

So there are electrostatic fields, magnetic fields, and electromagnetic fields.

Is an electromagnetic field then both electrostatic and magnetic?

Also, is there a difference between a field and a wave? A field is static, and a wave propagates? Is there such a thing then as an electromagnetic field?

Sorry, I feel like asking silly questions...and I need to learn something. ;)

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« Reply #2659 on: August 21, 2007, 04:22:16 PM »
Perfectly good questions

electric and magnetic fields are the two fields we are dealing with, and we can do a simular 2-phase moving field with electric fields as well, not just magnetic.  Electrostatic fields are static, so we can't use them :) but if they change we can call them electric and then we can do it.

How to do it?   With capacitors plates lined up in a row and connected  1 3 5 7 .... for one series, and 2 4 6 8.... for the next series, and then we feed them with our 2-phase (90deg shifted)  signals.   I belive this is already done in specialty hardware.

You are correct, electromagnetic fields or waves have both electric and magnetic components, actualy anytime there is time variation of an electric field it produces magnetic fields, and anytime there is variation in a magnetic field it produces an electric field, so in essence we speak of EM fields in electrodynamics, because both a present. 

Then there is also the Electrostatics and Magnetostatics realms, but that's 1st grade stuff  :)   

Is there a difference between a field and a wave?   Well,  a field is this distortion in space-time or aether, or whatever, and this distortion (or field) can be static or dynamic and can travel or stay put.

This 2-phase concept is very intreaging because we have two stationary patterns that look like waves and are offset from each other in distance,  but they're not moving, and only when the time phasing between them is altered as well do they give rise to a moving field.  Very interesting stuff !!

EM

P.S.  I should add that there is a difference between this 2-phase addition concept of a wave and an EM wave.  An EM wave sustains itself by shifting energy between the electric field and the magnetic field, but this 2-phase system is different yet there are simularities.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2660 on: August 21, 2007, 06:34:07 PM »
Thanks for that EM.

Could you do a little drawing illustrating the rotating electric field using the capacitor plates?

Darren

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2661 on: August 22, 2007, 03:22:40 AM »
This is what I was thinking in a linear fashion, and to create a rotating field then you can wrap that in a circle.

P.S.  Actualy I just realized that this is not quite equivalent to the magnetic setup.  We need (+) and (-) plates as part of the same series (red and blue).   But you get the general idea.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2662 on: August 22, 2007, 03:28:21 AM »
kind of looks like the way i had the black hole sun wired at 1 point  bucking  and kind of joggs my memery at the same time insted of 90 deg what about 180 deg phase inverted in oppsite dirrections? that was the original idea with the bhs




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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2663 on: August 22, 2007, 03:34:11 AM »
Hi gajos

Somebody tried to beat RF in the center of the toroide? With mag there also?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2664 on: August 22, 2007, 02:23:03 PM »
This is what I was thinking in a linear fashion, and to create a rotating field then you can wrap that in a circle.

P.S.  Actualy I just realized that this is not quite equivalent to the magnetic setup.  We need (+) and (-) plates as part of the same series (red and blue).   But you get the general idea.

Thanks EM.

So we would need a grounded plate between each red and blue one?

The direction is determined by which phase leads the other I take it.

Darren

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2665 on: August 22, 2007, 02:56:23 PM »
That's right, leading or lagging in phase between one series changes the direction of travel.  I played with that with my simulation, it's pretty neat. 
EM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2666 on: August 22, 2007, 03:45:49 PM »
how does the Muller motor generator work?

how will it relate to the tpu? this is where im looking right now  it seams as he circles his magnets with the electro magnets in sequance with one another + and -  powering the coils the magnet is in contact with  he speaks of moving the magnets without any work being done

bill also makes mention of supercondictuve wire hummm

a question what will make copper superconductive? heat?

needs more digging 


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« Reply #2667 on: August 22, 2007, 09:19:51 PM »
That's right, leading or lagging in phase between one series changes the direction of travel.  I played with that with my simulation, it's pretty neat. 
EM

Hi EM  :)
Would it be possible to do a 3 source simulation?
Something like this:

(1) A chicken pecks the leg of the Q1 man. Then Q1 ups the flag of his left hand. " The figure below shows this timing."
(2) On the next time, the chicken pecks the leg of the Q1 man again. Then Q1 downs the flag of his left hand. And then, while he downs the flag, he hits the helmet of Q2. Then Q2 ups the flag of his left hand.
(3) On the next time, the chicken pecks the leg of the Q1 man again. Then Q1 ups the flag of his left hand. And then, Q2 holds the flag of his left hand upside.
(4) On the next time, the chicken pecks the leg of the Q1 man again. Then Q1 downs the flag of his left hand. And then, while he downs the flag, he hits the helmet of Q2. Then Q2 downs the flag of his left hand. And then, while he downs the flag, he hits the helmet of Q3. Then Q3 ups the flag of his left hand.


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2668 on: August 22, 2007, 11:28:06 PM »
marco, you can actualy do that on paper and trace square waves and see what the timing is, which is what you're after anyway  :)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2669 on: August 22, 2007, 11:34:11 PM »
is the timeing not 1/4 waves and 2 of them or 3 of them

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