Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243151 times)

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #2175 on:** November 19, 2006, 02:13:20 AM »

hence the decision was made to stand down based on the fact that the prenise was flawed ..
nice tactical manuevre ...
where have i seen this methodology before ...

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #2176 on:** November 19, 2006, 02:29:54 AM »

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1180;sa=showPosts

anyone who may have taken the time to visit this link when i posted it earlier will notice the modifications ..

Nice clean up LM ... I see you picked up on the fact that it really wasnt clear who was posting what in that thread hey ...

Now if i could just get my hands on an old backup of this thread .. i have some excellent data compare utilities .. being a programmer and all .. and it might just throw a little more light on to the situation as the rodent scurries down the rope at the nearest dock ...

Will the real LM please stand up and be counted .. whaaa haahahahaaaaaa ...

supersam · « **Reply #2177 on:** November 19, 2006, 06:37:59 AM »

dean,
all you have to do is look at what you have done!!!!!

lol
sam

raburgeson · « **Reply #2178 on:** November 19, 2006, 09:21:09 AM »

Don't jump ship because of someone doing identity theft posts. I remember that happening before on another project. It's probably the same droid doing it. As soon as progress is being made this sucker pops up and tries to scare off everybody involved. Don't get scared he's just 1 little dweeb trying to throw in a monkey wrench. If we ignore him his superiors will take care of him for us. You guys have been making progress or he wouldn't be bothering us, so go like hell people. Some of you have been putting up great post don't stop the chatter. If you think the thief posting is bad study inductors for a bit and just ignore any questional posts. We are at the point now where we don't need the posts. We have the videos and we have many results. We are trading wiring diagrams and pictures. If we make a step backwards because of 1 bad post we only need to take 1 step backwards of our own to get back on track. We can do this and they can't stop us.

How will these ever be mass produced? 55' of wire in the outer wrap of a six inch. I have just out done myself in ugly for my new coil. (hang my head in shame) I hope it works anyway. Think there are many ways we have been limited to keep us from finding breakthroughs. Look at the FCC rules and frequency and wattage limits on componets.
What ever you do off-white is not a good fashion statement for appearance for these coils. On my new one I moved the control wrap wires to the outside because it was confusing people. Dropped to 12 wraps in the core, increased to 29 wraps in the control coils. I have been closing the outer wraps every time so this time I'll try leaving them open first run to see what that does first. Dropping to 12 wraps leaves my inside radius 1/2 inch to large.

I realise after going back through the posts I didn't answer a question well about how I was wired. I am sure I had it already torn down and couldn't send a picture so I will try to discribe in words. My top and bottom collectors were first connected in (4) parallel sections. Then wired clockwise in series. Back coil wired very like Otto did. Then The center collector was back coil wired in the counter clockwise direction in series with the other 2. I had a large cap in parallel between the input and output wire. I realised looking at Otto's arrangement that I made a mistake and the cap was providing poorly filtered dc (to low of voltage) and I should have been using pure DC. Well I already had it torn apart so.. You know how it goes. Oh, I forgot the top and bottom control wraps , left to right were clockwise, and the middle control wraps were CCW.

Only those of us that find themselves playing cats cradle with over 50 feet of wire know the real meaning of, What a tangled web we weave. On my new one they are all clockwise. (got 3 CCW collectors wound but not wrapped.

I've been checking out the formula (2 py*f) sin(wt) cos(wt) and supposably direction can be figured from the Argand Diagram.
Does it work out the space between coils for the first type TPU is the radius. In other words I'm asking if there is a relationship to Helmholtz Coils?

I'm going to place a pic of my ugly coil soon. The outside wraps need to be closed I think because I didn't get any results off it so far. When I unload the camera I'll post, but first I want to reconfigure some things and run this with the out wraps closed. Got some shots of the collector core responces with my scope. Changing to all clockwise collectors like this I think I need to analyse every last detail. Well like I said let's stay family and keep talking.

Mannix · « **Reply #2179 on:** November 22, 2006, 08:14:06 AM »

Hi all,

Here is some more information that will be of assistance to anybody, who's intent is to apply them selves to tpu duplication / understanding.

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By the way. I have really THOUGHT about how to help you and the others. I can not tell you

too much about the design of the technology because the company who still owns the

technology is reading my every word, as you know and just waiting to cut off my pension if I

tell you too much.
BUT!
I want you to start and think of the generator principles the exact same way that passing

the sound barrier was accomplished. Read how the engineers in this country finally developed

the proper wing design to accomplish super sonic speed in aircraft. I hope it will give you

a picture of what is going on inside the generator and especially the collector.
I can only talk to you guys metaphorically because the company is threatening me constantly

and my attorneys have warned me several times this month to STOP writing to the web site or

I must face the consequences. I wonder if any of the folks realize just what I am risking

when I give them information that they just take for granted and then demand more.

The people who say that tubes are exactly the same as transistors are very, very naive. And

now I will tell you something very important. You remember I mentioned fast electron transit

time vs molasses?
Let us examine a simple audio amplifier. When you design an amplifier you try to isolate

noise, or hash from the mains power supply from getting into the B+ and contaminating the

output signal, etc. You can measure all kinds of noise from the mains in your B+ not to

mention all the noisy spikes from the solid state rectifiers giving the direct current to

the power capacitors. All of this is easily measured, or seen on a scope of most solid state

audio amplifiers. NOW design and make a good tube amplifier and you will immediately find a

dramatic difference in the B+ supply measurements and what you can see on the scope. No more

spikes from the solid state rectifiers, almost no hash from the mains power coming in!

REMEMBER, all of that noise and hash in your solid state amplifier is in the output signal !

Now tell me? What do you think is happening inside the extremely sensitive torrid generator

when you use solid state devices to attempt to create the required precise control

frequencies to make catalyst and produce power???
By the way, your Solid State amplifier generates so much noise that if you measure the mains

wiring you can see noise from YOUR amplifier actually getting back through the transformer

and into the mains input wiring!!!
It is obvious that most of the people reading the web site and experimenting know nothing

about reading a scope and understanding what perfect frequency is. They also have no concept

of how important the control frequencies are in order to make power from the collector.
It is obvious that most of the people trying to duplicate my experiment are not of the

intellectual caliber necessary to develop my technology or at the very least they need to

invest in some laboratory grade instruments in order to develop any progress.
I assumed that anyone working on technology this sophisticated would have a superior

knowledge of electronics and an understanding of PURE frequency output being a Necessity to

control the reactions going on inside the collector.
Please place this on the web site and let them know that if they do not have a more then

average understanding of electron flow then they should not endeavor to try and duplicate my

device because they do not stand a chance. I am tired of reading their disappointments

because they do not have the education or the knowledge necessary to duplicate my

technology.
Sincerely,
SM
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Grumpy · « **Reply #2180 on:** November 22, 2006, 03:37:53 PM »

Marinov and others speculated that when speed of light is broken by rotation speed of magnetic field - field can no longer diverge.

After reading Marinov information, Steven's actions make more sense.

Anything Steven gives, I can connect to rogue physicist - seriously - only terminolgy is different - theory is the same.

Holy shit, Steven, I built a two channel tube amp about 20 years ago - hmm - wonder what happened to it... tube amp is current amp - transistor amp is voltage.

I realize that you can not answer all questions. Even no answer is good information.

Questions:

1. how much crap (noise, etc) can be tolerated in the control frequency?
2. would crystal oscillator be better means than variable?
3. is there a "detector" used? crystal- natural or artificial, pyrite (Ferron), carborundum?
4. is there a coil arrangement that you did not show, but tried and was successful?
5. did you work with flat spiral coils - any results?
6. old radio attenas used only a couple of turns of wire - two or three - quote from 1921 "Principles Underlying Radio Communication", 2nd Ed. - Bureau of Standards, etc. "Coils of consisting of two or more turns of wire can be regarded as equivalent to vetical attennas of two or more times the height of the side of the coil." - what ratio would you recommend for an antenna?
7. the coil wrapped over all other coils is toroidal - it's B field lies within, but A field is active through center and around ring in direction of current (or is it opposite direction - I forget) - A-field is primary to B field and can be detected only when field is changing. HAve you ever ran a loop through the center perpendicular to the toroid? Results?
8. did you ever place a plant or leaf within the device center?
9. did you ever make early designs that were mechanical or mechanically excited (vibrated)?
10. are current and voltage in phase at output of collector? which lags? amount?
11. in the arrangement of 3 coils, wrapped with segmented coils, wrapped with one coil over - segments create one field or two counter-rotating fields? What sort of control does overwrap coil provide? Overwrap will offer large A-field in center with other fields - wouldn't this provide highly excited "direction" vector?
12. LR or LC?
13. buffer amplifier between load and oscillator
14. frequency multiplier? biased? multiple frequency or harmonic?
15. unrelated - ever work with conical coils? Tesla used this for very interesting transformer.
EDIT: 16. direction of rotation in northern hemisphere looking down? - not flipped over

We must all be careful, but I believe public forum is safer than private, so I will stay here.

To SM and LM - thanks for your time.

EDIT:
P.s. Tesla used the term "frequency" even when describing 1/4 wave pulses. Tesla also developed a multiwave oscillator and reworked the circuitry of Lakhovsky's version - fascinating!

EDIT-2:
quoting William Beaty - in this article: http://amasci.com/freenrg/audwall.html

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A spike-impulse or "delta function" has an interesting frequency spectrum. It is composed of all possible sine waves of frequencies 1,2,3,4,etc. When a large set of sine wave signals are all added together, they cancel out everwhere except at the zero location (origin) of the graph. There they add up to create a large transient-spike.

c0mster · « **Reply #2181 on:** November 22, 2006, 04:49:02 PM »

Wow some disappointing letter from SM

Quote from: mannix

It is obvious that most of the people reading the web site and experimenting know nothing

about reading a scope and understanding what perfect frequency is. They also have no concept

of how important the control frequencies are in order to make power from the collector.
It is obvious that most of the people trying to duplicate my experiment are not of the

intellectual caliper necessary to develop my technology or at the very least they need to

invest in some laboratory grade instruments in order to develop any progress.
I assumed that anyone working on technology this sophisticated would have a superior

knowledge of electronics and an understanding of PURE frequency output being a Necessity to

control the reactions going on inside the collector.
Please place this on the web site and let them know that if they do not have a more then

average understanding of electron flow then they should not endeavor to try and duplicate my

device because they do not stand a chance. I am tired of reading their disappointments

because they do not have the education or the knowledge necessary to duplicate my

technology.

Well I guess we we have not found someone of intellectual intelligence the can make SM's machine.
I have never seen anyone prove OU only a bunch patents, videos, write ups and rumors none that have been proven. Maybe SM is the only man smart enough to do it. Maybe I am stupid and am just living a pipe dream. If one thinks they are going to build a OU device overnight they are wrong. If the only reason you are trying any of this stuff is to get rich or famous then disappointment will be very frustrating. To me this is a hobby, everything I learn is important regardless if I succeed. I try to share what I learn for those who might see something I do not. Perhaps it would be better if I didn't post any ideas or findings in fear I am way of base and may be just someone who is of lesser intelligence. I hope I didn't leave a bad taste in anyones mouth with this post but I am in disgust that SM thinks we are a bunch of idiots.

Cam

Hoppy · « **Reply #2182 on:** November 22, 2006, 05:59:11 PM »

Taking SM's comments about not being able to divulge too much information about his device, some may take his message as a diversion tactic to head experimenters into a safe direction away from the true working principle. Others may take this message to suggest that the device is more Homopolar in nature, totally passive picking up natural generated sine waves. The marketing of this device will be the proof that the performance claims are valid. In the meantime lets enjoy experimenting and not getting too despondent about being told that we are not educated or intelligent enough!

Vortex1 · « **Reply #2183 on:** November 22, 2006, 06:50:28 PM »

c0mster:

Don't let the condescending attitude of the letter get you down. A man's mind is as good as he believes it to be. We set up our own mental barricades and beliefs about what we can or cannot do.
I believe that there is nothing made by man that we cannot understand if we have the time, patience, and a will to understand it. Lack of a willing student understanding the material points more towards either a poor teacher or one under certain constraints as may be the case here.
An ordinary TV set is hundreds of times more complex than a TPU. Yet thousands of average servicemen and engineers were able to understand this complex device through education and training.
Have fun in your hobby and remember that an amateur is "one who loves what he does". With time, the experience and finnesse of the art will come.
Let's get on with this thing !.......V

allcanadian · « **Reply #2184 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:57:21 PM »

Hey Hoppy

"Taking SM's comments about not being able to divulge too much information about his device, some may take his message as a diversion tactic to head experimenters into a safe direction away from the true working principle"

Yes, and some may take his cryptic message as that of a half-wit who has no understanding of what is at stake regarding our future. Willing to gamble possibly millions of lives so he can buy new toys, He and his kind are pathetic they have learned nothing from history. If I have one hope it is one of us finds answers, discloses the technology to everyone and sends them to the poor house. It's funny all of these people, years later, always express regrets for being so stupid and always after it is too late, we may as well live in the stone ages.

Grumpy · « **Reply #2185 on:** November 23, 2006, 12:18:21 AM »

His message may be criptic to you, but it speaks volumes to me.

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #2186 on:** November 23, 2006, 02:02:20 AM »

Here's my take on SM LM .. one maybe 2 guys who stumbled upon the videos with no concept at all of who really made them or how they work, frustrated that we cant quickly work it all out for them..

All the scientific credibility comes from some well qualified dead guy who can neither acknowledge or deny the information provided.

The information they provide is sketchy because it is just probably informed opinion from someone else who has had a crack at deciphering what they have been shown.

They have no more credible information to put forward so don't get sucked into the idea that they are holding back, there is just no more information to give.

Mannix · « **Reply #2187 on:** November 23, 2006, 02:38:17 AM »

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on November 23, 2006, 02:02:20 AM

Here's my take on SM LM .. one maybe 2 guys who stumbled upon the videos with no concept at all of who really made them or how they work, frustrated that we cant quickly work it all out for them..

All the scientific credibility comes from some well qualified dead guy who can neither acknowledge or deny the information provided.

The information they provide is sketchy because it is just probably informed opinion from someone else who has had a crack at deciphering what they have been shown.

They have no more credible information to put forward so don't get sucked into the idea that they are holding back, there is just no more information to give.

Oh fun!

Perhaps you are familiar with a good phsycatrist to help me recover from my delusions?

Particle accelerators ...high speed fields.. metaphors.... save me from my confusion... oh please its people like you who contribute so much to the further understanding of complex things, and of course my on going mental recovery process!

I wish you well with your phd in disinterest....hmmm an interest in disinterest?
I do need a shrink.

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #2188 on:** November 23, 2006, 02:43:18 AM »

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Heres the real deal Mr Mark and UEC: This device is either going to make it to market or
not... If it is coming to market, GET IT DONE! Why dick arround for over a decade?
If you are planning on never releasing this technology, why bother telling us anything?
If people are reading your words to ensure you don't give us the answer we'll never get
any useful information. If you have never recieved any money for the device why not give it away?
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Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #2189 on:** November 23, 2006, 02:49:01 AM »

Quote from: Mannix on November 23, 2006, 02:38:17 AM

Oh fun!

Perhaps you are familiar with a good phsycatrist to help me recover from my delusions?

Did someone accuse you of being delusional?

Quote from: Mannix on November 23, 2006, 02:38:17 AM

oh please its people like you who contribute so much to the further understanding of complex things...

You're one to talk.

Quote from: Mannix on November 23, 2006, 02:38:17 AM

I wish you well with your phd in disinterest....hmmm an interest in disinterest?
I do need a shrink.

Disinterested partys do not post... We are all interested, but we're interested in real data. No one has delivered.

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