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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1243067 times)

raburgeson

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2145 on: November 12, 2006, 01:26:57 AM »
I am trying to find a 1920s book on inductors and transformer design. I believe what you are trying to find by intuitive thought has been purposely left out of modern day education. All the old school were taught inductor basics way differently than we are. Look how Maxwell and Tesla used inductors in a way we would never use them with our education. Steven said there is a kick when you first pwer the wire. I had trouble with line transients once, it never occurred to me they could be useful, they damage equipement quickly and I worked so hard overtime to get rid of them. We don't know were this kick comes from, relax and let's get it running so we can study it. I had one up just long enough (as long as the function gen lasted) to find that around the top the compass did piont North all the way around. It didn't run long enough to tip it on it's side to see if the bottom was South.

http://www.rexresearch.com/prentice/prentice.htm

Everyone says, oh it works with the priciples of this device or that one. Well if it works like any device built before it, it's this one. I don't even think Steven is aware of the existence of this. It collects power from the Earth has a high frequecy, high voltage DC output and is 2 inductors. It's not practical like the TPU, it requires 1/4 mile of land in the right direction. Steven wants us to learn so let's go with him and see were he takes us.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2006, 01:52:52 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2146 on: November 12, 2006, 03:11:57 AM »
Hi Raburgeson
     I'm currently browsing a book written in 1914 "Magnetism and Electricity"
 "A Manual For Students In Advanced Classes". There are many interesting experiments in this book not found in todays textbooks. I read this book maybe 20 years ago, but need to look at it again in this context. Is there anything in particular I could look up as I have many old books such as this. I recommend  all to visit their local library, there are some gems that get donated. The internet does not go that deeply into older electrical art.
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2147 on: November 12, 2006, 06:07:28 AM »
@Raburgeson
interesting patent, thanks for posting.

I'll have to study it in detail, but the main idea seems to be:

1)  Resonate a transmission line (1/2 mile in length) formed by one wire a few inches above the ground.

2)  Have a second shorter transmission line, close to the long one,  and pick up its resonant fields as usable energy.

My Insight on the TPU:

The TPUs have one thing in common,  they are stacked rings.   What if one causes resonance, and the other picks it up.  Something to think about.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2148 on: November 13, 2006, 06:19:13 AM »
I finished the first part of the rotating field. Here is a little movie that shows the rotation.
http://cmnet.ca/projects/sm/rotate.wmv

C0mster

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2149 on: November 13, 2006, 12:41:40 PM »
http://www.frankgermano.com/blackbox.htm

Sounds like SM's device works on the same principle

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2150 on: November 13, 2006, 03:15:44 PM »
I finished the first part of the rotating field. Here is a little movie that shows the rotation.
http://cmnet.ca/projects/sm/rotate.wmv

C0mster

C0mster,

Great results! Was this result with a 4 segment control coil with them wired as the tesla patent for the generator? I ask since I am working on that particular experiement as well. I am using a 555 timer circuit with transistor driver and inverter to create the alternating pulses. It appears that you are using 28 or 30 gauge wire for the coils, is this accurate?

I am using 18gauge stranded for the control coils but have not had any real success yet. I was thinking I might need to change to a solid core magnet wire.

Also, have you tried to increase the frequency of the 555 circuit yet?

Please let me know.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2006, 03:42:35 PM by starcruiser »

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« Reply #2151 on: November 13, 2006, 05:29:20 PM »
@starcruiser

Yes 4 segment coil with one wrap of 32g mag wire per segment. Same as the Tesla generator except I am using a ferrite core. I have the 555 connected to a push pull transistor setup to provide the phase 1 and I hope to get phase 2 done this week.
As I increased the frequency the BEMF spikes became very strong and cooked one of my variable resistors so I need to figure out how to stop this from happening.
Here is a movie that kinda shows the specs of the coil http://cmnet.ca/projects/roundcoil/roundcoilfull.wmv

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2152 on: November 13, 2006, 06:32:27 PM »
@starcruiser

Yes 4 segment coil with one wrap of 32g mag wire per segment. Same as the Tesla generator except I am using a ferrite core. I have the 555 connected to a push pull transistor setup to provide the phase 1 and I hope to get phase 2 done this week.
As I increased the frequency the BEMF spikes became very strong and cooked one of my variable resistors so I need to figure out how to stop this from happening.
Here is a movie that kinda shows the specs of the coil http://cmnet.ca/projects/roundcoil/roundcoilfull.wmv

C0mster


@C0mster,

thanks, I will take a view. My new coil setup (I made a version 2 to work on the Tesla generator patent) uses a steel 18Ga solid wire core (non insulated) as a core mass with a 4 segment control coil (18Ga) wired as in the patent with a single 16Ga stranded coil over that (I call this the output coil for the lack of a better term) and noted a skewed squarewave output when pulsing on side of the control coils. I put in 10vP-P signal and was getting out roughly 5vP-P. I am working on my driver circuits as well to get the alternating pulse right. I ran into a loading issue so this is what I am working out now. The Timer as the signal source is running at roughly 600Hz as a starting point.

I am wondering if the tranmission line approach would be workable here as jason's approach. Connecting one side of the signal source to the control coils and the other to the outter coil (open ended connections) and maybe use capacitors to tune the control coils. And see what comes out on the Collector(s)Just some ideas. This idea would not require a specialized driver circuit and could be tested on a standard TPU build (my version 1). What do you think?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2153 on: November 13, 2006, 06:35:38 PM »
Hey mrd10

Here is a link which I think steven marks has probably read, because it basically outlines what the SM device is and how it works.
http://prometheus.al.ru/english/phisik/onichelson/physics.htm


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« Reply #2154 on: November 13, 2006, 09:40:52 PM »
 :)
« Last Edit: November 14, 2006, 03:41:39 AM by c0mster »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2155 on: November 14, 2006, 02:15:36 AM »
Hi Carl,

Please do try my circuit and prove it for yourself. It does in fact put out usable power (though small using the components I had) but I know that it could easily be scaled up.

@allcanadian

I love that link that you posted! It proves the exact effect that my transformer circuit has been making. In the article, Tesla talks about how it is the conversion of other energies into potential (specifically electrostatic potential) that produces power. Though I have not tried Tesla's tricked out bifiliar coils yet, my cheesy transformer coil still showed some voltage increase when I sent the square wave through it. Also, like Tesla stated, the power transferred through the receiver needs to be high voltage low current! I am also seeing the same effect with my device (the max I got was 37V at about 40mA). This may not seem like much but I only had a 30V input coming from my function generator. If I could pulse the coils with 100V or even 1000V, I'm sure I would get more current out that could easily be stepped down to a low voltage high current output!

Stefan mentioned that my transformer might have been transferring energy via electrostatic coupling... Well, according to what Tesla talked about, Stefan is right!! But the only energy that is being expended is the heat that may be produced in the primary coils from the voltage signal oscillating in it (my guess anyway). But since that is extremely small to non-existent then for all practical purposes, the electrostatic coupling between the primary and secondary winding is allowing me to produce a measurable output on the secondary side without expending charge on the primary side!

Could someone please try the experiment and prove/disprove this. I believe it works. But if I am missing something here, please correct me.

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2156 on: November 14, 2006, 10:07:48 AM »
Hi Guys,

Great work all of you, I'm in process of building 90volt version, I will be incorporating fuses in mine, just incase I hit that magic number.

@Allcanadian

Awesome read, thanks, wow I loved the bit on displacement current, and it explains jasons experiment beautifully.
As he was using a voltage potential only.

cheers,

Dom


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2157 on: November 14, 2006, 04:40:42 PM »
Hi C0mster,
About your calculation in the movie may not be true. I designed some high power switching power supply, I have to duel with those pulses. Our goal is to smooth the pulses to be straight line DC. I know that the Volt meter and the current meter is designed to measure precisely for only AC 50/60HZ sine wave or DC straight line. Any pulse or pulse on DC measurement may have different wrong reading, even different model of meter shows different reading. I think you may have to use work done in joule to compare the value.

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« Reply #2158 on: November 15, 2006, 12:43:37 AM »
@tosky

Good point. It is like an illusion, because if it was performing more work than going in I should be able to replenish the supply, and there is no way to replenish the supply even though it looks like more watts. If it was calculated to joule it would show a loss. One can be easly fooled. As I said before any OU device would have to replenish the supply or have no supply. But I do like to have an open source attitude towards my experiments. Then we all learn. :)
 
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2159 on: November 15, 2006, 08:12:25 PM »
another way to spin a compass:

http://www.ussdiscovery.com/FalacoSolitonMagnetic001.htm

short video at the bottom of the page

(analog of a Falaco Soliton water wormhole)