Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243025 times)

gn0stik · « **Reply #1291 on:** October 14, 2006, 05:12:13 AM »

Cliff, I posted challenges to those statements made the prestigious CEO of MPI. Just so they wouldn't go unanswered.

The article at PESWiki was largely negative regarding Mr. Mark. Nothing against you Mr. Allen, but that's largely why Mr. Mark is so reclusive in the first place. I'm not really feeling all that warm and fuzzy about the fact that Mr. Mark is having to re-read all that slander presented in those links. Although he doesn't reply much anymore, you can be sure he reads this.

At any rate, I'm having a home brew to toast a great week's work by all(taking Lindsay's advice). *raising my glass* Skol! Cheers! Prost! TCHIN TCHIN! A LA TIENNE! Mud in your eye! Hey, Howdy! Bottoms Up!

Oh, and to Giantkiller, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but I've been seeing a lot of black suburbans lately. Anyone else?

Regards,
Rich.

argona369 · « **Reply #1292 on:** October 14, 2006, 05:53:20 AM »

kames · « **Reply #1293 on:** October 14, 2006, 05:57:57 AM »

Hi gn0stik,

No, I didn?t use a toroid. I used a standard ferrite rod from a radio it was wound like any standard internal radio antenna but with four wires at a time. The ferrite rod was from a very old radio and somewhat bigger is size that in modern radio. To do it with a garden wire would be a big challenge because a very good winding quality was required. I haven?t tried it using a toroid core. I might do it later. I have small toroids and a big one from a monitor. I did it about 2 years ago and I haven?t forgotten about it. Soon or later, I will come to this experiment again with some new ideas.

Right now, I am thinking about a different experiment. I don?t have yet a clear picture in my head for the actual set up but the idea, for simplicity is next.
The idea is to extract, if possible, any power from two identical charges, let?s say electrons or whatever. Imagine, two long wires in parallel, from north to south. In each wire there is an electron that moves either/or/and north or south. Can I get any power from them? Not yet. However, if I put some magnetic field that creates a pulling force on one elector towards, let?s say, west and another electron, let?s say east the picture is different. So, two electrons, in two wires, each one have an additional force applied and it is in DIFFERENT directions, perpendicular to the direction of the two wires or electrons movements.
I am still thinking about the actual set up for such an experiment.

Kames.

gn0stik · « **Reply #1294 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:05:42 AM »

From Mannix:

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HYPOTHESIS
Assume the bottom example to be not two separate synchronized pulsed conductors, but as Tesla constructed, a large coil of a few turns of wire.

Stout wire as Mr. Mark would put it. Speaker wire perhaps? Mr. Mark's main work before the TPU was related to audio, specifically speakers.

I assumed that the collectors were stout wire, but not the controls. According to the diagram, the magnetic wave front producing wire would be analogous to controls. This is counter to the construction model that I had assumed. I thought the controls would be thinner wire in "many segments" wrapped around the "stout cable" of "many stranded wire".

Lindsay, Am I getting your description wrong, or am I wrong on my assumptions?

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A frequency is chosen, such that the pulsed DC now sets up the magnetic wave fronts such that they coincide with one another in every turn of the coil. At each moving point of a DC "compression" pulse or wave, all the circular magnetic wave fronts would coincide. Imagine these wave fronts when the coil is now compressed into a single annular bundle of insulated conductors. The magnetic wave fronts would become additive, Now place a separate, thick conducting wire within the annular (toroidal) bundle.

OK, more confusion... don't get me wrong, I see what you are saying.. I makes perfect sense, but it's so counter to everything that I've been reading, and the assumptions I've been working under it's kind of throwing me for a loop (no pun intended, mate).

So we've got some thick (relative to my previous thinking)annular controls, short pieces, of a few turns per segment, wrapped around and even THICKER annular COLLECTOR. Is that correct? Now, the controls would have to be a very small number of turns, because being humans it would be very hard to get magnetic "wave" (we'll just call them that) fronts to coincide with eachother in a coil composed of a large number of turns.

So the controls are at 90 degrees, no inductions. Or at least, not the kind standard EM theory tells us is ideal. HOWEVER. We ARE squeezing the hose!

Am I on the right track here?

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From the simplistic example above, we can see that the combined magnetic wave front impresses an immense pressure on the electrons at each point of overlap. Thus, a powerful pulsed DC current is set up within the separate, or off-take, current conducting wire. It can be easily visualized that there could be several "step" frequencies that could be pumped into the annular bundle, where more or less such wave fronts coincide. The greater the number of magnetic wave fronts that coincide with one another, the greater the combined coercive force driving electrons through the off-take conducting wire. This is where the analogy of squeezing the water through the garden hose from one end to the other truly makes sense.

Ok, so this solidifies the idea of Shorter bundles of wire, and many frequencies interacting with one another creating a synergy (the whole is more than the sum of it's parts). If I'm reading that right. I addressed the squeezing in the above commentary.

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Rotational magnetic fields have also been mentioned in various dissertations as interacting with gravity. Setting up a DC pulsed ring thus actually does set up magnetic wave fronts that travel around the annular or toroidal bundle of wire and appear to have more and more effect as they all "line up'" and combine to become very powerful as they rotate around the annulus at a minimum speed of C. (As pulsed DC is used, there maybe a significant component of Radiant Energy that comes into play, and it would account for the additional power created, since the annulus appears to "organize" the direction and impact of ZPE into the L system through the collection coil.

So, this is the part that feeds the cornucopia of questions rolling around in my head. It sounds as if you have done this experiment. I note that you say a "minimum speed of C". The combining effect I understand, but that throws me. If it goes over C, then there would most definitely be gravitational effects, which would explain the motive force. However, it brings in a whole new paradigm of thinking about the device, and a whole new paradigm of thinking about it's possibilities. Are you suggesting there are antigravitational effects of the TPU?

Also, this hypothesis blows several theories out of the water. Counter-rotating magnetic fields for one. The reason we are focusing on frequency (not for energy gain, but for magnetic synchronicity). Much of the Bill Beaty stuff we were positive played a part, the schumanns 7.8hz, which I introduced, is not needed, or at least not relevent for the reasons I thought it was.

This hypothesis requires an entire new paradigm of thinking.

Last question: How much of this is theory, and how much is tested? I know this is a learning experiment, but it would help a lot if we knew that this is more than just prostelization. That you have quantified some of it somehow.

Anxiously awaiting your response.

Rich.

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #1295 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:17:04 AM »

Quote from: bob.diroto on July 11, 2006, 03:03:29 PM

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author=dean_mcgowan
I still have the concern here, to draw an analogy, that capacitors resistor etc.. are digital technoloy compared to analog, in the sense that you may view a capacitor as a means to quantify the effect in a time scale that is observable and hence measurable in the four dimension of space time. ie simply varying the juncture in my simplified diagram of the two circuits would both balance the mass and frequency of the circuit and hence afford tuning of the circuit. Applying the spark gap has merrit though it also is very hard to maintain a specific qualatitive amount of energy across the gap and could be more disruptive than productive in this paradigm.

Regards,

Dean McGowan

What a load of crap.

Capacitance, inductance and resistance are present in all wires to varying degrees.
By this very fact capacitors, coils and resistors are ANALOG to suggest otherwise is tripe. DIGITAL my arse.
It is the infinite non-step like features of analog circuits that make them so suitable for the task at hand.
One of the reasons why eletron tubes would be far more suitable because they allow far more harmonics to progress around an analog circuit.

You may be able to tune your coils to a particular resonant frequency without an additional capacitor but this doesn't mean there is no capacitance in your circuit. Capacitance introduced by your choice of insulation between layers; distance apart of the turns; diameter of wire; size of coil; choice of former; tension on the wire; precision in winding etc.

It's already well understood that fast rise and fall times along with short impulse times coupled with a circuit that never allows reversal of current (diode operation) are required to generate radiant energy. It is more than clear from Tao's work and confirmation from Steven Mark that this is the direction to take.

A spark gap is a good initial choice because it has the attributes of incredibly fast rise time and fall time, and provides a high voltage diode action, and a switching action. By definition if voltage could be applied instantly to the wire the harmonics would continue on into infinity. High voltage capacitors by definition are able to present large amounts of charge to a wire via an appropriate switch.

It is precisely these very high frequency harmonics that we are after in our coil circuits as it is the interaction of these frequencies that can then be observed and deductions made on the right combination of frequencies to use to achieve the desired result.

You'll note from the comments by Lindsay Mannix that they are looking for appropriate switching mechanisms. Fast rise times are not the problem. It's the fast fall times that is the issue. MOSFETS only go to around 1500V. IGBTs go to much higher voltages but have much lower switching times because their trailing edge keeps going - the current doesn't shut off smoothly.

Like I was saying earlier your purpose here is to waste time, detract and misdirect.

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #1296 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:18:48 AM »

Quote from: -[marco]- on September 21, 2006, 08:22:30 AM

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on September 21, 2006, 05:03:46 AM

maybe there are three coils?

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top and bottom connected in series and middle rapped around at 90 degrees as illustrated previously

hi,

I do use 3 coils but they are wrapped over each other so there isnt a coil inside a coil.

But i dont switch them into paralel nor in series becase im using 2 seperate input channels and one (lets say middle) coil as output.

Its just so that i can run both coils (Async) against each other to see what comes out of coil 3

I wil see if i can get a camera somewhere for some pics.

greets marco.

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #1297 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:19:24 AM »

just revisiting some earlier posts to see if they are again relative ...

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #1298 on:** October 14, 2006, 07:23:06 AM »

tao,

I think we are seing things come full circle back to the much more simple interpretations of the SM device.

I did a few experiments with small coils in a transmitter reciever feedback loop earlier on and got nominal effects , tested by touching on my tongue .. lol .. but still, induced current no doubt. These were only tiny effects and could have been ascribed to inductance. But my gut is telling me Marco is on the money !!!

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #1299 on:** October 14, 2006, 07:40:29 AM »

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on July 10, 2006, 08:01:36 AM

Another more natural way of creating the switching may be simply inducing a feedback loop in the circuit that has a natural phase cancellation thus opening and closing the loop allowing for the natural capacitance and voltage multiplication to self regulate. I thought this made sense when considering the system based on longitudinal waveforms. This diagram is crude but let me know what you think?

I have 2 small ring magnets wound seperately using a single steel wire and an iron core wound with copper wire.

The mass of the 2 seperate circuits is the same and I have brought into contact a small neodymium magnet to the copper wound iron core. Results .. inconclusive, too small a scale to make any validatable observations, though It did seem to be totally ineffective when the device was not in the upright position.

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This is my interpretation of the system however I have deviated from the Steven Marks device as I considered that the copper winding is around the outside of the circuit, however this may only be an issue of semantics.

I put this forward as I am of the opinion that efforts may be being made on non essential components as often included/excluded in demonstrations and patents for such devices. I also accept this may be an over simplification of the device.

Regards,

Dean McGowan

tishatang · « **Reply #1300 on:** October 14, 2006, 11:58:42 AM »

Marco

Your last video is awesome!

It may be obvious to all and not mentioned, but I hear a high frequency squeal as your hand gets near and touches the coil. It sounds like the frequency goes higher the closer your hand gets. The higher frequencies generate higher voltages to the bulb making it glow brighter.

It sounds to my ear at about the 15Khz range? If you wound a few turns around the bulb wire and fed it to a frequency counter, it might give us an extra clue as to what's going on?

Hope this helps,

tishatang

supersam · « **Reply #1301 on:** October 14, 2006, 04:31:50 PM »

marcos,

are you seeing the kicks, with your latest experiments? or just the the transfering of power, like an antenna through your body? you said you were getting some physical sensations, what are they like? maybe like a static build up or what. have you maybe tried discharging yourself through any other metal maybe like a doorknob when feeling the sensations? just curious.

lol, keep up the good work,
sam

gn0stik · « **Reply #1302 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:12:21 PM »

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 14, 2006, 05:53:27 PM

Quote from: supersam on October 14, 2006, 04:31:50 PM
marcos,

are you seeing the kicks, with your latest experiments? or just the the transfering of power, like an antenna through your body? you said you were getting some physical sensations, what are they like? maybe like a static build up or what. have you maybe tried discharging yourself through any other metal maybe like a doorknob when feeling the sensations? just curious.

lol, keep up the good work,
sam

sam hi,

im still trying to post part 4 of the videos.
the physical thing is only power flowing thrue my body as it gets above 30 volt it begins to tingle.

does anybody know about another forum thats not a bunch of crap like this one has become....?

marco

Marco,
I've offered but nobody seems interested. www.gn0sis.com, No banners, no ads, no disabling javascript, everyone can upload to the files section, everyone can blog. If you want, you can put all of your experimenting in your personal blog there and post a link to that in the forums, etc. It's a true community site, not just forums.

So, Tao, et al. I agree the stuff Mannix posted seems counter to what we thought we KNEW about the opertion of SM's device. That's why I gave him a chance to answer those questions. I know that we a lot of stuff that we discovered, that seemed to fit perfectly with SM's device, but why would Lindsay post that if he didn't have a good reason to think it was accurate, even if SM didn't give it to us. Also, I agree that it seems to contradict some of Steven's other posts. Construction details, wire orientation, etc seem to be thrown out in this post. I'm hoping he responds to my post. I'd just like to know if it was simple brainstorming, or if it's a tested design, and if so, what were the results, and setup?

Z_P_E, the effect he was talking about could be created with wires at 90 to the collectors.

All, the biggest problem I have with it, is getting those little magnetic pulses to line up, that would be next to impossible without EXTREMELY accurate equipment. That is not to say that I don't have other problems with it.

@Mannix... Little help here, how did you come across this hypothesis, is this the result of vigorous testing? If so, what were the setups, and results?

Regards,
Rich

jacob · « **Reply #1303 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:29:08 PM »

Quote from: tao on October 14, 2006, 09:09:11 AM

Merry X-Mas....

I will explain all this later in detail, time for bed....

What do you all think?

Hi Tao,

The text on your markcoils.gif picture says, in reference to what SM has said about the device: "...abrupt DC discharges from capacitors...". Do you have the actual reference to that post? I would like to go though that text again.

Regards,

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #1304 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:48:16 PM »

Quote from: giantkiller on October 14, 2006, 04:29:01 AM

We are still barbarians... We so speedily stand behind doubt and avarice and kill the dreams of visionaries so quickly.
I will not be condemned by the status quo. Sorry to defile this thread.

--giantkiller, hence the name.

Giantkiller, you are 100% right! We are still barbarians! In fact I am not sure the world is ready for this technology. It is a shame to keep it aside because so many people could benefit from it. However, within the wrong hands, it could do much harm... So what shall we do? Personally, I don't know.

As for the dead scientists, some of them died from natural causes, like Nikola Tesla for instance. But let's think about it for a moment. Why has his name been carefully barred from just about every mainstream scientific litterature despite his formidable technical contribution to the world? Simply because he had the secret of free energy and wasn't greedy enough to withold this information. He wanted to share it with the world, free of charge! It is said that his plan for the magnifying transmitter was to build a huge version of it and locate it on a remote island in order to supply the whole planet with electrical energy. Now I wonder: where on a desolated island, away from everything, do you find so much electricity?

Regards,

Jacob

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