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Author Topic: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"  (Read 123820 times)

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #210 on: September 16, 2009, 07:27:24 AM »
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pinestone

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #211 on: September 16, 2009, 08:02:29 AM »
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magnetman12003

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #212 on: September 17, 2009, 03:05:06 AM »
I dont want to start a new thread on this but if anyone is interested here is a movie clip of something I just constucted. Its not overunity but has a lot of good potential as an efficient motor device that can possibly drive a propeller.  This is just the beginning---  Tom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRrYnwK71UY&feature=player_embedded
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pinestone

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #213 on: September 17, 2009, 04:38:42 AM »
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Is that an old crt degaussing coil around a dinner plate?
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Mk1

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #214 on: September 17, 2009, 08:53:16 AM »
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magnetman12003

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #215 on: September 17, 2009, 03:22:03 PM »
Quote from: pinestone on September 17, 2009, 04:38:42 AM
Is that an old crt degaussing coil around a dinner plate?


 You are correct.  A 12 inch diameter (80 ohm) degausing coil is connected to a square wave generator. A dinnerplate is centered in the coil.  I have had the most fun with this simple setup in years.  Many magnet combinatons can be tried on the plate by adjusting the frequency of the generator.  Some magnets will spin - others wont. Very little output from the generator is required.

Tom
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Lakes

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #216 on: September 17, 2009, 05:23:57 PM »
I was wondering what size the CRT was to have a 12" coil?

I have no idea what size they normally are, but this seems quite large to me.
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pinestone

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #217 on: September 17, 2009, 05:30:05 PM »
Quote from: Lakes on September 17, 2009, 05:23:57 PM
I was wondering what size the CRT was to have a 12" coil?

I have no idea what size they normally are, but this seems quite large to me.

That coil of his pre-dates modern color televisions. Back in the 'old days' we had to manually degauss the crt's every time the television was moved around the house or if a strong magnetic field was near the crt (like a vacuum cleaner motor).

You held the coil in front of the crt and waved it around like some sort of magic ritual.
It sure looked pretty with all the colors interweaving with each other...
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Lakes

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #218 on: September 17, 2009, 05:48:47 PM »
Quote from: pinestone on September 17, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
That coil of his pre-dates modern color televisions. Back in the 'old days' we had to manually degauss the crt's every time the television was moved around the house or if a strong magnetic field was near the crt (like a vacuum cleaner motor).

You held the coil in front of the crt and waved it around like some sort of magic ritual.
It sure looked pretty with all the colors interweaving with each other...
Thanks for the info, could be interesting to see it action on a CRT, if you still have one that is... :)
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pinestone

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #219 on: September 17, 2009, 05:57:56 PM »
Quote from: Lakes on September 17, 2009, 05:48:47 PM
Thanks for the info, could be interesting to see it action on a CRT, if you still have one that is... :)

you could make one- or take one out of a newer crt monitor. Its a loop of wire around the face of the crt (inside the cabinet).
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sterlinga

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HOAX = New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #220 on: October 19, 2009, 04:53:59 PM »
I've posted a synopsis page here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:LEGO_electromagnetic_motor_hoax_by_Tom_A

I was first made aware of this yesterday.
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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #221 on: October 19, 2009, 05:59:21 PM »
@SterlingA

I watched that story unfold in amazement. The coil is a good idea and used in toys. I was most amazed at the amount of people latching onto it as a real free energy device even though the author showed the real workings. When the capacitor was revealed I understood it as an energy storage device. I'm sure the author assumed most would see it that way.

Nowhere did I understand it was a hoax. The author offered it more as a lesson, to the chagrin of many.

His other videos seem to be good lessons. Many of the folks visiting these OU sites would benefit from watching them.

BEP
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Pirate88179

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #222 on: October 19, 2009, 07:34:52 PM »
Sterling:

Thanks for posting that.  I already knew it was a hoax but, I'll bet there are still folks out there watching his original videos and wasting time trying to replicate his device.  It is very good to get the word out.  Good work.

Bill
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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #223 on: October 21, 2009, 10:46:48 PM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 19, 2009, 07:34:52 PM
Sterling:

Thanks for posting that.  I already knew it was a hoax but, I'll bet there are still folks out there watching his original videos and wasting time trying to replicate his device.  It is very good to get the word out.  Good work.

Bill
I wouldn't refer to it as "wasting time". His device works, just it's not perpetual motion. Some of the concepts from it seem like they could be used in a real magnet motor.
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Pirate88179

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #224 on: October 22, 2009, 06:47:33 AM »
Not really.  A hoax is a hoax for a reason.

Bill
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