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Author Topic: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"  (Read 108459 times)

Offline Hugo Chavez

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New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« on: February 15, 2009, 04:00:13 PM »
what do you guys think?  I've watched a lot of this guy's videos and he doesn't seem like the type who would fake something:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1gslDaeS4

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 04:37:49 PM »

Cool vid.  His voice sounds so familiar....I got it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EkBuKQEkio

TS


P.S. I truly hope he has something here, other than a reed switched, coil wrapped, pulsed discharge capacitor/battery

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 05:57:29 PM »
what do you guys think?  I've watched a lot of this guy's videos and he doesn't seem like the type who would fake something:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1gslDaeS4

If its no hoax, it could be a selfrunner at least.

Looks easy to replicate with common parts from a
washing-machine and some old relais.
hm.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
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Offline Ergo

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 09:30:13 PM »
I'm usually negative on any youtube movies showing OU devices.
But I must admit this one got me hooked. If storing the energy in
a low ESR capacitor before releasing it into the reversed coil at the
exact right timing it should have ever better chances on sucess.
Using low Rds-on mosfets to reverse the pulse will keep losses at minimum.
It's worth trying if I get some spare time from family and work.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 10:11:43 PM »
Isn't he misinterpreting lenz's law? If I understand this correctly he has a small coil hooked to the base of a transistor. If the magnet passes this induces a current in the small coil which switches the transistor "on". This transistor is hooked to a bigger coil (see below). Now lenz's law states this will counter act the change in the field. In this case the big coil will ATTRACT the magnet when it's moving away from the coil and not repel it as he's saying in the video. To be honest this looks very fishy.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 11:19:26 PM »
Hi broli,

yes but he says at around 2:11 - 2:12 that the other part of the electric valve (i.e. a transistor) opens up the big coil (after the small coil got maximum induction and switched the transistor on....)  hmmm   English is my second language but is it not what he said?   

So the input part of the "valve" must be the base-emitter or gate-source of a bipolar or a FET transistor and the output part must be the collector - emitter or drain - source part.  There must be something else (i.e. component) involved. 
Could you listen to it again?

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 11:45:05 PM »
Hmm,
maybe he is using the shorted outBackEMF of the larger coil to repell the magnet ?

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 12:00:58 AM »
Hi Stefan,

very briefly, how would it work then?


Other thing I forgot:  we should consider the effect of iron core in the big coil. 
(it seems the small coil has no core but mainly the big coil has, standing out at its backside)

EDIT:  the small coil also has the core but the core is a little bit pulled backwards in it.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 01:01:56 AM »
The high impedance coil gets shorted by the transistor at just the right time. You need high impedance coil to minimise switching losses in the transistor or FET.

This coil short causes the core to produce overall asymetric (about vertical B axis) BH curve during one complete core mag interatction and so a  net force is developed. When you short a coil that coil will act as a flux guide, and will cause the core to be pushed closer to saturation, I think It is similar to whats going on in @crankypants perepetia effect. Most of the Lenz effect is there as usual. But the new effect causes the core to attract the mag just a tiny bit less on the way out. The core will probably cool down slightly if insulated well.

It´s also the same thing that Steorn are trying to capitalise on, their new orbo has a coil, core and mags and probably uses an emebedded low Rds FET mounted on a high impedance coil.

Hmmm. I wonder if a ready wound 240V coil from a fishtank vibropump could have a trigger winding piggy backed on it to trigger a FET? Even if it won´t run a wheel it may give a slower wind down time which would prove something special is going on.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2009, 10:37:24 AM by Yucca »

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2009, 03:28:21 AM »
May I suggest looking at this person's work... http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/magkick.htm

Yes, it uses a battery but use some imagination. Replace the battery with a pickup coil.

BEP

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2009, 08:33:27 AM »
For one thing, operating at 'far field' will not net enough sharp edge curl eddies to bring great results.  Even Lockheed's magnetic beam amplifier is largely misunderstood by rudimentary execution of the concept.  The dynamics at work really are very much akin to their more materialistic fluid analogs....the medium is merely much thinner.  I think there is perhaps a sobering reason that he employs such generous spacing between stator and rotor. 

One might do well to consider the hydrosonic pump as a rough analog to what is being demonstrated here.....It has been proven to put out more heat energy than is expended in electrical energy by the employment of resonance to produce and induce field collapse.  Only, curiously converse, at magnetic induction, one is employing a kind of field collapse to induce resonance.  By seeking to create a collapse/resonance cycle, a type of greater resonance may be achieved.

Without the Greater resonance long ago established by movement of the Aetheric wind through all that matters, no energy as we understand it, would exist.  Such movement is requisite for matter to exist at all.  Magnets, by the nature of their manipulated structure, 'sing' at a frequency just below that required to begin interacting with the Aetheric medium in a manner observable as approaching 'solidity'.  Tesla's observations on 'solidification of the Aether' could explain much regarding the transduction of 'zero point' energy.  If so, then UFO's are both vehicles and energy generators by virtue of singular principle.  Much work is being done on nanoscale materials which exhibit amazing magnetostrictive properties.

http://aml.seas.ucla.edu/research/areas/magnetostrictive/overview.htm

Having worked with Terfenol-D for sometime, I can tell you that it is just shy of fantastic....what the kids behind the curtain are doing with similar, newer materials must REALLY be going to their heads!  The prospective energies so easily induced by these phase change materials is what really puts the harness on the horse, so to speak.  Imagine a material, which by virtue of it's existence, begins putting out great quantities of energy the moment it's 'born'.  This is what a permanent magnet is doing, only we reduce the 'practice' a step further in the wrong direction, or at least, a lower direction.

I'm certain a PM could be constructed which, by nature of it's geometry, could produce continual clean energy......

Provided it is held fast so as not to blow away in the wind.



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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2009, 09:09:30 AM »
May I suggest looking at this person's work... http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/magkick.htm

Yes, it uses a battery but use some imagination. Replace the battery with a pickup coil.

BEP
I don't think those coils in the perpetual video are using a battery.  That link is showing how the kicker coil is working in toys.  in that video he's saying he's using the induced current from the approaching magnet.  If he's hiding a battery it's not this guy's style to do so. All his other stuff is on the level.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2009, 09:49:15 AM »

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All his other stuff is on the level.


Including his other video about free energy being a "myth"?   He describes his coil setup, yet talks of not revealing all his secrets for fear of  'discreditation' by the powers that be....


Physics professors are, by and large, themselves the powers that be....regarding the topic of free energy.  If he truly has something, there are numerous avenues for him.  Apparently high school professors are even more out of the loop than we garden varietal eggplants.


Personally, I can think of much more important reasons to keep quiet about free energy success than 'fear of being discredited.'


TS

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2009, 10:09:39 AM »

Including his other video about free energy being a "myth"?   He describes his coil setup, yet talks of not revealing all his secrets for fear of  'discreditation' by the powers that be....


Physics professors are, by and large, themselves the powers that be....regarding the topic of free energy.  If he truly has something, there are numerous avenues for him.  Apparently high school professors are even more out of the loop than we garden varietal eggplants.


Personally, I can think of much more important reasons to keep quiet about free energy success than 'fear of being discredited.'


TS
Well, when looking at the range of folks who work on perpetual motion kind of things he just seemed to be a little more on the level with what he's posting.  I wasn't trying to turn this into what it's not or evaluate how and why he might have some level of fear or how he would choose to approach posting information he had fear of doing.  Just saying that he didn't seem the type to intentionally post a fabrication.  He strikes me as having some level of sincerity, that's all.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2009, 12:17:27 PM »
I like the logic of this, but I see many flaws in the video. If you look at the start of the video, follow a spoke of the wheel...you will find that it appears as the video was edited or closed loop. At the end of video this is more visable as you can see the focus change to 5 different levels and they repeat themselves.
I would be happy if he could film 5 minutes at normal speed with a laser tacho so we could see the variation in revs.
Mark

 

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