Author Topic: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion" (Read 123402 times)

0c · « **Reply #165 on:** February 27, 2009, 02:28:57 AM »

Well, at least Starcross42 finally came out with a comprehensive explanation, enough to replicate his device should you choose to do so. Alsetalokin has yet to provide enough information to replicate a WhipMag. As far as I am concerned, Starcross is OK. He gave us all something to think about, and didn't make us wait too long before revealing the secrets.

FreeEnergy · « **Reply #166 on:** February 27, 2009, 02:33:03 AM »

wow this is really getting intense! lol

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #167 on:** February 27, 2009, 02:42:30 AM »

Quote from: 0c on February 27, 2009, 02:28:57 AM

Well, at least Starcross42 finally came out with a comprehensive explanation, enough to replicate his device should you choose to do so. Alsetalokin has yet to provide enough information to replicate a WhipMag. As far as I am concerned, Starcross is OK. He gave us all something to think about, and didn't make us wait too long before revealing the secrets.

Long enough that some people probably started attempting to replicate the device. In the comments section of his first video he said there was a secret to the coil that he was not willing to part with. A comment he deleted when he made his reveal.

I must ask, would the lesson have been any less with the reveal at the end of the first video? Sure it wouldn't. The only reason you wait is to get people interested and following so you can school them with a lesson in wasted time. Not cool imo. Had I not been busy with several other projects, I probably would have wasted my time attempting a replication to solve the hidden coil secret he lied about.

Digjam · « **Reply #168 on:** February 27, 2009, 05:13:22 AM »

Quote from: 0c on February 27, 2009, 02:28:57 AM

Well, at least Starcross42 finally came out with a comprehensive explanation, enough to replicate his device should you choose to do so. Alsetalokin has yet to provide enough information to replicate a WhipMag. As far as I am concerned, Starcross is OK. He gave us all something to think about, and didn't make us wait too long before revealing the secrets.

Did I miss something along the way? Wasn't the whipmag (OC MPMM) from your original idea/design?
and you don't have the info on it? Or are you a different OC?

0c · « **Reply #169 on:** February 27, 2009, 05:48:26 AM »

Quote from: Digjam on February 27, 2009, 05:13:22 AM

Did I miss something along the way? Wasn't the whipmag (OC MPMM) from your original idea/design?
and you don't have the info on it? Or are you a different OC?

That's me. I have 2 whipmags here and all sorts of data. It started as a psychedelic dream or hallucination. I did what I could to translate the whirling vortices of my dream into some drawings representing a more concrete design. Al built it, or at least part of it and made the infamous youtube video. Problem is nobody, not even Al, has been able to replicate that device. So far it's one-of-a-kind. Al claims to have revealed everything he knows, but somehow that has not been enough for anyone to replicate the behavior.

I've been fiddling with WhipMags for about a year now and I'm afraid I haven't seen any more exceptional behavior than you have.

markdansie · « **Reply #170 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:44:36 AM »

I found Starcross 42 to have a lot of integrety. When I was on the right track he emailed me and revealed the lesson straight away. I was tempted to come on here, but as I suggested in an earlier post it was worth while waiting. Does that make me dishonest , no.
I have travelled the world validating devices. Sadly I have yet to see anything that self runs. Paul Sprain may have come close but the error for magin in the data was too close to call it either way.
I often find inventors and in some rare cases scientists look at only what they want to see, not what is realy there. I think Starcross is a wonderful teacher and my daughters enjoyed trying to solve the mystery.
Its a bit like looking at Mindfreak the magician. His illusions defy logic, but there is always a trick.
I am optimistic but by default have become a skeptic. Believe me when you chew through a 200k plus sponsering inventors and travelling you soon sharpen your skills. I have yet to see any device that is self running or can be independently tested to have produced overunity. I will exclude cold fussion as there issome evidence from reputable research lessons that it may exist...but not in a commercially viable way as yet. Blacklight Power may also hold some promise.
Thank you Starcross 42, for your lesson, integrety and honesty.

PS look up Erik Graig on the internet...he has debunked more devices than I have had hot lunches.
Mark

padawan · « **Reply #171 on:** February 27, 2009, 02:20:37 PM »

Hello star42,
I m in physics University of France and i told of your experiment to my students....
"it's a challenge for them" to replicate your experiment and validate it
so if i remember in your experiment you have
2 biCoils with transistor
1 capacitor on the fan motor
a wheel with magnets
and NO BATTERY isn't it !?

it works for 20 minutes ! isn't !
Thanks for your answer !

Padawan

do you know that??

padawan · « **Reply #172 on:** February 27, 2009, 03:12:30 PM »

hello
My students found it on you tube
no free energy but interresting to do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrKtY7nWc-o

and they work on this circuit for the moment

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #173 on:** February 27, 2009, 04:26:28 PM »

Some of you can suck up to hoaxers all you want, I don't find any lesson in it. I don't find any integrity in waiting until people have wasted time and money to reveal. There is no additional value in what is learned by waiting for that consequence to occur. It is self serving only.

The intentional lies encountered in this endeavor of obtaining OU has got to be more than any other area of research that's ever existed with the possible exception of what science had to endure by religion.

How many people have simply bailed on trying after walking through the minefield of lies? How much time has been wasted overall by people replicating a lie to confirm? How many people will ignore a promising find in this ocean of lies? How many brilliant minds won't even go there in the first place due to the outright mockery from the establishment that the good Dr Altman has shown himself to be a part of. That is the integrity that one person challenged him on. In turn, he decided not to school the person who had challenged him but to do what the scientific establishment does and treat the whole of everyone interested in contempt with his schooling.

padawan · « **Reply #174 on:** February 27, 2009, 05:54:39 PM »

YOU TALK ! YOU TALK !
But one moment please I work in physics...if you don't want to learn some thing before trying
"Free energy" OK but where is your work or device 's working with free energy

??
I wan't to help you ! so be quiet man !
replicate this ! and we talk young padawan

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #175 on:** February 27, 2009, 06:13:11 PM »

Quote from: padawan on February 27, 2009, 05:54:39 PM

YOU TALK ! YOU TALK !
But one moment please I work in physics...if you don't want to learn some thing before trying
"Free energy" OK but where is your work or device 's working with free energy ??
I wan't to help you ! so be quiet man !
replicate this ! and we talk young padawan

Is the next magnet on the rotor positive or negative.
Differently stated, Are all the magnets facing the coil, all positive, all negative or one positive and one negatve?

Thank you in advance.

Jesus

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #176 on:** February 27, 2009, 06:17:54 PM »

Quote from: padawan on February 27, 2009, 05:54:39 PM

YOU TALK ! YOU TALK !
But one moment please I work in physics...if you don't want to learn some thing before trying
"Free energy" OK but where is your work or device 's working with free energy ??
I wan't to help you ! so be quiet man !
replicate this ! and we talk young padawan

I wasn't talking to you but applying what I am saying to you if you so desire, you do not need to hoax people on this board as a means of productive participation. Leave the counterproductive tom foolery for your magic trick parties.

wattsup · « **Reply #177 on:** February 27, 2009, 06:38:54 PM »

@Hugo Chavez

It's time to drop it.
There is no point for a play by play.
We all got the message.
Did you learn something from the whole process?
Then it is not a total waste.
It's time to move on.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #178 on:** February 27, 2009, 06:50:19 PM »

Quote from: wattsup on February 27, 2009, 06:38:54 PM

@Hugo Chavez

It's time to drop it.
There is no point for a play by play.
We all got the message.
Did you learn something from the whole process?
Then it is not a total waste.
It's time to move on.

I absolutely agree and I did drop it. Starcross isn't stupid and he knew what he was doing by waiting until I dropped it to come here and stir it again. He came in and said here I am, tossing down the gauntlet after I said I'm done. I do want to move on. As I said, this is just continuing to waste time. I didn't learn anything from the process other than don't trust anybody no matter how nice they seem. Which I knew at heart before too, just don't like to accept.

FreeEnergy · « **Reply #179 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:37:18 PM »

Hugo if it makes you feel any better I also think it's f***ked up what he did. A complete waste of my time and hope, actually it made me mad too (a little)! But we should know just how common these things are in this field of science amongst other fields. Pretty sad huh? This is why for the past weeks I've been actively looking around for other free energy forums that are actually moderated and strictly open source. If I don't find any good forums out there then I'll just start my own.

The truth is we should not get mad, sad, frustrated, etc. There are way too many of these clowns around so we got to focus on the important things that comes along with a person/group. Simply just be in the look out for true open source scientists, teachers, groups, etc. you know the ones who shows you the whole thing inside and out and not only parts of whatever it is, and the rest of them just ignore and move on.

...and no I don't hate the guy if anything I wish him the best, I rather waste my energy by ignoring him and by moving on to something open source...NEXT!

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