Author Topic: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion" (Read 123736 times)

sushimoto · « **Reply #180 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:38:53 PM »

Quote from: padawan on February 27, 2009, 05:54:39 PM

YOU TALK ! YOU TALK !
But one moment please I work in physics...if you don't want to learn some thing before trying
"Free energy" OK but where is your work or device 's working with free energy ??
I wan't to help you ! so be quiet man !
replicate this ! and we talk young padawan

Hi Padawan.

THANKS a lot for mention this. He is acting and talking like a defective vinyl-record.
No progress in his learning curve.

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

best regards,
sushi

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #181 on:** February 28, 2009, 12:01:05 AM »

Quote from: FreeEnergy on February 27, 2009, 11:37:18 PM

Hugo if it makes you feel any better I also think it's f***ked up what he did. A complete waste of my time and hope, actually it made me mad too (a little)! But we should know just how common these things are in this field of science amongst other fields. Pretty sad huh? This is why for the past weeks I've been actively looking around for other free energy forums that are actually moderated and strictly open source. If I don't find any good forums out there then I'll just start my own.

The truth is we should not get mad, sad, frustrated, etc. There are way too many of these clowns around so we got to focus on the important things that comes along with a person/group. Simply just be in the look out for true open source scientists, teachers, groups, etc. you know the ones who shows you the whole thing inside and out and not only parts of whatever it is, and the rest of them just ignore and move on.

...and no I don't hate the guy if anything I wish him the best, I rather waste my energy by ignoring him and by moving on to something open source...NEXT!

in the interest of dropping it, I'm dropping it. rather than reply which will just keep it all going, I'll drop it. everybody got their hits in. The all glorious hoaxer wins the day. I'm done, happy everybody? let's just let it die. I'm not the one who kept it alive, I responded to posts. I'm finished, it's over. ok...

Yucca · « **Reply #182 on:** February 28, 2009, 12:31:48 AM »

@Hugo,

I feel your angst. I agree with you, and IÂ´m sure most others do, the OU field certainly doesnÂ´t need any more noise on it in the form of timewasting attention seeking pranks and hoaxes.

Any zen statements about hoaxers teaching us a "valuable lesson" is condescending and self rightous nonsense in my opinion. We arenÂ´t here to learn stage magic, this is an OU forum for OU people, weÂ´ll have no trouble here!

Yucca has left the building...

Paul-R · « **Reply #183 on:** February 28, 2009, 01:01:33 PM »

Starcross 42's device is very intriguing. Obviously, the video could have been faked, but I doubt
that it has. It owes something to the purest implementations of the Robert Adams motor.

I thought Lenz Law reaction was instantaneous. i.e. there would be no time for the wheel to move from
the push position to the pull position (unless it was running at an absurd speed).

The question is:
Has he tried to take energy off the shaft?
i.e. Has he attached the central shaft to a prony brake?
Paul.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #184 on:** February 28, 2009, 05:16:03 PM »

Quote from: Paul-R on February 28, 2009, 01:01:33 PM

Starcross 42's device is very intriguing. Obviously, the video could have been faked, but I doubt
that it has. It owes something to the purest implementations of the Robert Adams motor.

I thought Lenz Law reaction was instantaneous. i.e. there would be no time for the wheel to move from
the push position to the pull position (unless it was running at an absurd speed).

The question is:
Has he tried to take energy off the shaft?
i.e. Has he attached the central shaft to a prony brake?
Paul.

The video was faked. He has the reveal uploaded on his channel. The instant effect of lenz's law also had me wondering in the beggining. I thought the crossing flux would hit both coils at the same time and it wouldn't matter if a transitor switch the bigger coil because the breaking would have already occured by that point. However, he mentioned there was a secret to the coil itself in his comments so I then began to wonder about ways he might have blocked the flux from hitting the larger coil while still benefiting from the magnetic field pulse once it switched on. One of the things I thought about was possibly mumetal. They sell mumetal in wire too so I wondered, could there be a few rows of mumetal wire with a dialectic seperation such as fishing string in between and a single row of enameled wire last to hide the clue which would be gunmetal grey appearance of mumetal around the larger coil. Who knows, this idea might actually be worth a try.

Paul-R · « **Reply #185 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:11:41 PM »

Interesting ideas, Hugo. Why do people waste our time like that? It is bizarre.

I had a feeling that the answer lay in the time constant of the LR circuit. i.e. it takes time
for the voltage to build up (I reckon this affects the Imhotep relay idea). But, of course,
both the driving effect and the Lenz reactuion would be similarly affected.
Paul.

lumen · « **Reply #186 on:** March 15, 2009, 09:18:34 PM »

Build your own over-unity generator. Inverse lenz's law?

pinestone · « **Reply #187 on:** April 14, 2009, 05:46:49 PM »

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I think you guys have missed the simplicity of this thing.

The little fan is being used as a DC generator. As it spins, the output is fed into a diode, and stored in a large electrolytic capacitor. The current from the capacitor runs through one winding of the coil and into the collector of an NPN transistor.

The second winding on the coil is fed into another diode and into the base of the transistor. This part of the circuit is what 'turns on' the transistor. As the magnet approaches the coil, it induces current into the base, then the transistor conducts, allowing the collector current to flow through the first winding (from stored capacitor) providing a 'kick' which repels the magnet.

Polarity of the coils and placement of the magnets would be critical, and some experimenting will be necessary to get the timing & polarity right.

diagram: http://www.nanomagnetics.us/projects/perpetual%20motor/perpetual.jpg

Cap-Z-ro · « **Reply #188 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:05:26 PM »

That looks impressive to me...thanks pinestone.

Regards...

shubhamforme · « **Reply #189 on:** June 14, 2009, 04:37:50 PM »

Quote from: pinestone on April 14, 2009, 05:46:49 PM

Quote

I think you guys have missed the simplicity of this thing.

The little fan is being used as a DC generator. As it spins, the output is fed into a diode, and stored in a large electrolytic capacitor. The current from the capacitor runs through one winding of the coil and into the collector of an NPN transistor.

The second winding on the coil is fed into another diode and into the base of the transistor. This part of the circuit is what 'turns on' the transistor. As the magnet approaches the coil, it induces current into the base, then the transistor conducts, allowing the collector current to flow through the first winding (from stored capacitor) providing a 'kick' which repels the magnet.

Polarity of the coils and placement of the magnets would be critical, and some experimenting will be necessary to get the timing & polarity right.

diagram: http://www.nanomagnetics.us/projects/perpetual%20motor/perpetual.jpg

hello there....
i have seen the circuit here---
http://www.nanomagnetics.us/projects/perpetual%20motor/perpetual.jpg
does this works ...
because i have tried other ones and they didn't worked....
also how can we use a fan to power this??
please explain.... can i use a small 12v dc computer brushless fan in this circuit??
kindly explain
thanks
shubham

shubhamforme · « **Reply #190 on:** June 14, 2009, 04:39:03 PM »

Quote from: pinestone on April 14, 2009, 05:46:49 PM

Quote

I think you guys have missed the simplicity of this thing.

The little fan is being used as a DC generator. As it spins, the output is fed into a diode, and stored in a large electrolytic capacitor. The current from the capacitor runs through one winding of the coil and into the collector of an NPN transistor.

The second winding on the coil is fed into another diode and into the base of the transistor. This part of the circuit is what 'turns on' the transistor. As the magnet approaches the coil, it induces current into the base, then the transistor conducts, allowing the collector current to flow through the first winding (from stored capacitor) providing a 'kick' which repels the magnet.

Polarity of the coils and placement of the magnets would be critical, and some experimenting will be necessary to get the timing & polarity right.

diagram: http://www.nanomagnetics.us/projects/perpetual%20motor/perpetual.jpg

hello there....
i have seen the circuit here---
http://www.nanomagnetics.us/projects/perpetual%20motor/perpetual.jpg
does this works ...
because i have tried other ones and they didn't worked....
also how can we use a fan to power this??
please explain.... can i use a small 12v dc computer brushless fan in this circuit??
kindly explain
thanks
shubham

ramset · « **Reply #191 on:** June 14, 2009, 09:54:45 PM »

This looks like that schematic
http://www.energeticforum.com/z/Paul-Harmans/
Chet

pinestone · « **Reply #192 on:** June 15, 2009, 12:41:39 AM »

Quote from: shubhamforme

.... can i use a small 12v dc computer brushless fan in this circuit??
kindly explain
thanks
shubham

In my diagram, the small dc fan is functioning like a generator. Some dc computer fans won't work as generators, but you can connect a voltmeter to the positive and negative leads to test them...spin the fan and see if the meter indicates any voltage. You could use a small dc motor as a replacement, but they usually require higher rpm to generate any useful voltage.

When the large rotor (with 4 magnets) spins, the 'fan' generates dc. By mounting the smaller generator under the larger rotor, every revolution of the rotor causes the generator to spin 4 or 5 times faster.

I have never built this device, but it's very similar to a Bedini circuit with some minor modifications, and shouldn't be too difficult to make.

Tinker · « **Reply #193 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:56:20 AM »

Lets add this to the Mix.

*Patent
Author Year Title Country Assignee Number URL
1971 ELECTROMECHANICAL ENERGY CONVERTER WITH LOW-INERTIA SPECIALLY WOUND COIL United States 3624439 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3624439.html

What this is a Conical Coil Winding as near as I can figure it has lower or little drag.

Pic's here from Keely-Net
01/24/06 - Magnetricity NeoGen PM Dynamo.

Anyone want to sign on to Free patents might find more I'm out for the night.

Be Well
Tinker

magnetman12003 · « **Reply #194 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:48:45 PM »

Quote from: pinestone on April 14, 2009, 05:46:49 PM

Quote

I think you guys have missed the simplicity of this thing.

Hi, What transistor(s) would you recommend? Describe the coil/core diameter/lenght. Bifiliar AWG Wire size/ lenght.---- All as starting recommendations --- Working voltage of the cap also.
Input on just what small DC fan motor might be used would also be helpfull. Operating voltage/manufacturer ??

I would like to build this and give it a try.

Tom

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