Author Topic: Thane Heins Perepiteia. (Read 1895172 times)

hydrocontrol · « **Reply #4650 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:49:25 AM »

Quote from: albator10 on May 04, 2009, 03:44:35 AM

Hi there,

No news from Thane since he make the annoncement of is demonstration.

I have asked him if I can be there on may 3, but not answer from him.

May be he got some trouble from the MIB, or may be He is dead ?

Clicking on his profile it states last login :
May 03, 2009, 09:14:28 PM
so it appears he is still alive. Maybe the demonstration did not go according to plan.

minde4000 · « **Reply #4651 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:50:27 AM »

How did the demonstration go? Any videos?

petersone · « **Reply #4652 on:** May 04, 2009, 01:17:35 PM »

Hi All
I to hope the demo went ok,looking forward to the results.
Can any one tell me if a "solid state Thane" would work,2 coils,1 fed with a sine wave,at the right hz.and 1 picking up the juice?
or have I got it all wrong?
peter

mackensteff · « **Reply #4653 on:** May 04, 2009, 09:03:18 PM »

Where, oh where, can Cranky Pants be
Oh where, oh where is he

He promised us all on Mayday
Some electrical Over Unity

Where, oh where, can Cranky Pants be
Oh where, oh where is he

It has been a week since we have heard from he
I am afraid the MIB strung him up a tree

(Bad, I know.

But I know Thane can't resist bad poetry)

adlep · « **Reply #4654 on:** May 04, 2009, 09:49:54 PM »

Lets hope that Mr. Thane and his invention are fine.

They guy is a bit eccentric and difficult to deal with, but I have seen nothing but good intentions coming out of him. I wish him nothing less than all the best.
Hopefully everything worked out and Thane is currently preparing a nice update for all of us...

hydrocontrol · « **Reply #4655 on:** May 04, 2009, 10:13:37 PM »

Quote from: adlep on May 04, 2009, 09:49:54 PM

Lets hope that Mr. Thane and his invention are fine.

They guy is a bit eccentric and difficult to deal with, but I have seen nothing but good intentions coming out of him. I wish him nothing less than all the best.
Hopefully everything worked out and Thane is currently preparing a nice update for all of us...

I suppose there are two possibilities.
1) It worked and Thane is working on editing and uploading a new video.
2) It did not work and Thane is working on understanding and solving the reason why it did not work.

I think we all are hoping it is #1 but even if it is #2 all is not lost. I am sure it will work eventually. Thane did do a self imposed demo date and there was a lot of work left to do just from his last update to get the system fully populated. It could be there was just too much to do in the time frame available to get to the self running point. If he gives us a self running demo sometime in May I would be happy. We all have waited this long. A bit more time is not going to hurt anyone...

Fred Flintstone · « **Reply #4656 on:** May 05, 2009, 07:03:27 AM »

Thane - if you're running short on time, just give us a quick overview of the demo. Many of us are very anxious for an update....

Fred

baroutologos · « **Reply #4657 on:** May 05, 2009, 11:21:55 AM »

Hello @ All,

I am waiting as most of you Thane's demo results. Anyway, you should not expect much to happen since even succesful though might be, things seldom change like that.

I was pondering the other days with Perepiteia and compared it to Adams motor. After all, they are magnets & coils right? :p

So venturing in this site http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk, under chapter 2, Adam motor section i stumbled across this (see attached image)

Then i had a laughter

.
I merely compare it with the HV coils of Thane's setup that all have a common magnetic "ground" in toroid, boosting there power by 37% each.

So, this has been observed and done before. by no means i try to dwarf Thane's creativity and invention. But what i am trying to say is that this kind of technology is surpressed or to put it mildy ignored enough to be forgotten, so every time we RE-INVENT the wheel.

Have a look.

regards,
Baroutologos

ps: Thane we wait your news!

hydrocontrol · « **Reply #4658 on:** May 05, 2009, 03:10:48 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on May 05, 2009, 11:21:55 AM

So, this has been observed and done before. by no means i try to dwarf Thane's creativity and invention. But what i am trying to say is that this kind of technology is surpressed or to put it mildy ignored enough to be forgotten, so every time we RE-INVENT the wheel.

regards,
Baroutologos

There are differences but there is a lot in common. I think the key that Thanes found was using fine wire to cancel / delay the Lenz effect. Every Adams motor I have seen used heavier gauge wire so there was always a limit that would allow the Lenz to kick in. The key is that for Lenz to work it has to have current to flow and not voltage to flow. So if you have voltage flowing without the current then Lenz does not kick in (as bad). The conversion from voltage to current occurs elsewhere so the rotor is not effected.

baroutologos · « **Reply #4659 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:21:42 PM »

Hi Hydro,

Yes you are right about that. There are serious differences.

i am not an anihhilist. i agree. But... see it from another perspective.
Imagine you want to replicate Peripeteia, ok? you gonna use thick gauge wires for the motor power coil (that's the grinder) and finer gauge wire for the accelaration part. (HV coils) You should agree by now.
Image you want to eliminate the two different kind of coils so you want a SIGNLE COIL that combines HV acceleration and power creation in a delicate balance.
I think that's the original Adam's motor.

I hope i did not confuse you. Anyway, Thanes smart setup distinguises the accelaration part from the motor part. This achieved to better and more efficiently (i think) make the two different systems.

Of course, that is my oppinion.

Regards,
Baroutologos

hydrocontrol · « **Reply #4660 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:22:57 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on May 05, 2009, 04:21:42 PM

Hi Hydro,

Yes you are right about that. There are serious differences. i am not an anihhilist. i agree. But... see it from another perspective.
Imagine you want to replicate Peripeteia, ok? you gonna use thick gauge wires for the motor power coil (that's the grinder) and finer gauge wire for the accelaration part. (HV coils) You should agree by now.
Image you want to eliminate the two different kind of coils so you want a SIGNLE COIL that combines HV acceleration and power creation in a delicate balance.
I think that's the original Adam's motor.

I hope i did not confuse you. Anyway, Thanes smart setup distinguises the accelaration part from the motor part. This achieved to better and more efficiently (i think) make the two different systems.

Of course, that is my oppinion.

Regards,
Baroutologos

I think there are several variations of this setup that may work. The key is to get it to self-run once then to duplicate. Thane has shown us it is not "magic" like so many other people have claimed. It is understanding the underlying principles of cause and effect which Thane has done so nicely shown in numerous videos. I do believe that "Mikes PMM" did self run with only a capacitor. The key was that he used a lot of turns of fine wire woven with his thicker drive wires. This is a lot like Thanes dual wire core approach. What Mike did not understand was that his fine wire was shorted somewhere and helped cause the effect. Most of Mikes circuit had very little to do with his motor self running and that is why it did not make sense to anyone.. It was one of those hidden "gotchas" that Mike did not see so when he tried to duplicate the motor it failed. Once the duplication failed Mike just disappeared since he knew that if he could not duplicate the motor the chance of anyone else duplicating was null. There are so many things that can go wrong such as having the wire short out in exactly the correct place for the effect to occur. In Thanes case it is more science rather than blind luck. Being science it can be explained and duplicated with success instead of being "magic". I think Thane is on the right track and it will be easy for others to duplicate once a few more "unknowns" are worked out. My guess is that Thane found another unknown that he has to work out in order to continue. At least now I am getting a handle on how it all comes together to work. Thanks to Thane.

baroutologos · « **Reply #4661 on:** May 06, 2009, 02:08:11 PM »

I am in the process of mounting the magnets and seeing this thread i have been somewhat confused.

I am after at obtaining the most easiest way for producing the accelaration effect.

What magnet configuration is optimum for this? standard alternating NSNS?

I saw that recently Thane used NNSS setup. This initiates the phenomenon easier? What about a all N faces out? (like BEdini's FEG?)

Some advice here is welcomed.

Regards,
Baroutologos

Covey · « **Reply #4662 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:49:37 PM »

I only wanted to state that my experience in what Thanes working on is limited but from what I understand it does sound extremely exciting. I find myself running each day to this forum to see if Thane has a new video or statements on his success.
It is a wonderful dream to make this world self sufficient in energy and take away power from the corruption that goes on because we are surviving on the Oils.
Just want to Thank you Mr. Heins for giving us real hope and making possibilities that says we are being held back from our true potential.

Brilliant Canadians which in the future might be Honoured as they should be:
Thane Heins for the Perepitea and a man Rick Simpson rediscovered the Cure for Cancer as well as many other maladies Curing Diabetes, All skin Cancers etc. just by ingesting his Oil. It is an amazing miraculous story that continues to grow more truth as each year goes by.
Covey WhiteGold

baroutologos · « **Reply #4663 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:17:18 PM »

i know i have missed much of this Thread, but i notice something. Pls comment also.

Thane said that he is using standard 30 agw @ 150 ohms as HV coils.

From the last pictures of the coils mounted on the toroid i noticed that this is NOT the case.

There sees to be coils with more or less those specs:

inside diameter: 25mm (or 2,5 cm)
coil height: 65mm
estimated wire used: 24 awg or 22 but NOT 30 AGW
estimated coil diameter: 80mm
estimated wire layer thickness: 30mm

using the COil maestro software i estimated those also:
estimated wire resistance: 70 ohm
estimated coil weight: 3-4 pounds

see his post and view pictures. then take in consideration what i say.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.4680

Any comments?

minde4000 · « **Reply #4664 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:15:55 PM »

Well coils can vary obviously according his different setups. The question is what is magnet polarity?

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