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Author Topic: Thane Heins Perepiteia.  (Read 1899618 times)

CRANKYpants

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4620 on: April 20, 2009, 11:44:56 PM »
Dear All,

Please find enclosed the new Stator ring we started assembling today. We should have some test/performance data by Wednesday if all goes well.

Each coil here has the capacity to produce about 50 watts w/ acceleration - through the step down transformer - there will be eight coils in total.

Next step is to have Toroid Tech in Toronto copy this design and to have a double sided rotor (magnets on both sides) w/ two pairs of stator coils totalling 16 coils with an estimated output of about  800 W.

If our preparation is correct the cogging torque and eddy current losses should be minimal and the motor should be consuming less than 200 watts at full speed.

Electron Corporation of Pennsylvania will be making the new rotor w/ magnets for us.

Is the short term we will endeavor to finish the Orion prototype with the current rotor and perhaps this stator core - coil assembly.

Cheers
Thane

Thane C. Heins
President - Potential +/- Difference Inc.

 
"Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything."
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Coleston

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4621 on: April 21, 2009, 01:19:16 AM »
oh wow, cool. How are the vertical cores adhered to the giant stator ring?
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hydrocontrol

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4622 on: April 21, 2009, 05:07:10 AM »
Quote from: Coleston on April 21, 2009, 01:19:16 AM
oh wow, cool. How are the vertical cores adhered to the giant stator ring?

From looking at the pictures I would say the cores are being held in place by Gravity at the current time ;D ;D ;D
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Pageygeeza

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4623 on: April 21, 2009, 05:41:25 PM »
Just found something very wonderful out!  My design can utilise as many magnets as i want!!
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hydrocontrol

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4624 on: April 21, 2009, 10:15:47 PM »
Quote from: Pageygeeza on April 21, 2009, 05:41:25 PM
Just found something very wonderful out!  My design can utilise as many magnets as i want!!
Sounds interesting. Got a picture of this design ? Got some data ?
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Pageygeeza

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4625 on: April 21, 2009, 11:05:02 PM »
The first prototype wasn't producing enough, think I was getting about 12v AC with about .1 Amps

The next one, the coils will be elongated so i can have more coils passing over the surface.
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CRANKYpants

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4626 on: April 22, 2009, 03:38:53 PM »
Quote from: hydrocontrol on April 21, 2009, 05:07:10 AM
From looking at the pictures I would say the cores are being held in place by Gravity at the current time ;D ;D ;D

Here are the last photos and I have uploaded an new video ("EARTH DAY DEMO which may be ready for viewing in about 20 minutes from now - 9:20 am). http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins

We are now getting 30 watts (or more / coil) with a total of 8 coils = 240 watts out.

The eddy current and cogging torque losses are now fixed (it won't go any higher with the addition if coils of any size) and the motor input = 223 watts.

With the correct sized and lower eddy current stator ring from Toroid Tech - we can safely expect 50 watts / coil - which is our goal right now, - 400 watts out and about 200 watts in.

We could easily have a double sided rotor with two stator rings & coils producing around 800 watts. There really is no limit now!

Cheers
Thane

Thane C. Heins
President - Potential +/- Difference Inc.

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broli

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4627 on: April 22, 2009, 03:45:52 PM »
Thane sorry that you maybe have answered this already, is that rectified dc current you are measuring on the output?
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Fred Flintstone

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4628 on: April 22, 2009, 05:42:51 PM »
After following this thread forever now...it would seem that Thane has got it!  When can I get my generator?  Are there any skeptics anymore? 

Fred
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CRANKYpants

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4629 on: April 22, 2009, 05:47:50 PM »
Quote from: broli on April 22, 2009, 03:45:52 PM
Thane sorry that you maybe have answered this already, is that rectified dc current you are measuring on the output?

NEW EARTH DAY VIDEO HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPMbWzNuMOg&feature=channel_page

ONE OF THE MANY "NEXT STEPS" IS TO RECTIFY THE AC OUTPUT AND CHARGE A BATTERY AS WELL AS CHARGE A CAPACITOR TO ENSURE THAT THE ACCELERATION EFFECTS
REMAIN.

HAPPY EARTH DAY!

CHEERS
T
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derricka

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4630 on: April 22, 2009, 09:09:43 PM »
Happy Earth Day, (even if you are not from earth)

Thane, you getting warm. Note the similarity of your new toroid design to this er, gravito torus thingy from er, somewhere far away.

Weird enough 4U ?
;D
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Pageygeeza

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4631 on: April 22, 2009, 09:21:44 PM »
I think it's about time I gave some input about my creation/abomination.

Basically it's a continually wound coil but it only crosses the inside face which the rotating mass spins past.  The wires cross from top to bottom then bottom to top and continually like that.  All the magnets face the same way, but they are lined up to the same pass of wire.  I had a 20 pass setup, so ten magnets were used and were lined to the down pass.  That was how I got my AC phase.  Basically from that simple setup I could get about 20VAC by hand turning and about 0.1 Amps.  I intend on increasing the inner surface of the drum so that the wires run longer over the longer face, by doing that I can add many more magnets.

Any comments?
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CRANKYpants

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4632 on: April 22, 2009, 11:21:17 PM »
Quote from: Fred Flintstone on April 22, 2009, 05:42:51 PM
After following this thread forever now...it would seem that Thane has got it!  When can I get my generator?  Are there any skeptics anymore? 

Fred

LET'S DO SOME MATH WITH FRED...

WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD, I USED TO WATCH MR. FLINTSTONE ON TV AT LUNCHTIME...
THAT WAS 36 YEARS AGO...

PEBBLES WAS ABOUT 2 YEARS OLD AT THAT TIME...

SO WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW NOW IS WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE NOW IN A BIKINI?

CHEERS
T
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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4633 on: April 23, 2009, 12:15:41 AM »
Quote from: CRANKYpants on April 22, 2009, 05:47:50 PM
NEW EARTH DAY VIDEO HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPMbWzNuMOg&feature=channel_page

ONE OF THE MANY "NEXT STEPS" IS TO RECTIFY THE AC OUTPUT AND CHARGE A BATTERY AS WELL AS CHARGE A CAPACITOR TO ENSURE THAT THE ACCELERATION EFFECTS
REMAIN.

HAPPY EARTH DAY!

CHEERS
T

What a historic accomplishment! Thanks T, for your hardwork, tenacity, determination and genius.

Happy Earth day!

LarryC
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derricka

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4634 on: April 23, 2009, 02:30:27 AM »
Quote from: CRANKYpants on April 22, 2009, 05:47:50 PM
NEW EARTH DAY VIDEO HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPMbWzNuMOg&feature=channel_page

ONE OF THE MANY "NEXT STEPS" IS TO RECTIFY THE AC OUTPUT AND CHARGE A BATTERY AS WELL AS CHARGE A CAPACITOR TO ENSURE THAT THE ACCELERATION EFFECTS
REMAIN.

HAPPY EARTH DAY!

CHEERS
T

My prediction, based on what I have seen so far, is that a DC load will actually be required for acceleration, on the DC capacitor that is hooked up to the rectified output of a high voltage coil.  As the capacitor charges towards the peak voltage of the HV coil, the more the HV coil is likely to behave as open circuit.  I am assuming full wave rectification here, but it would also be interesting to see the effects of a single diode in either direction.  It certainly seems counter intuitive, like if you borrowed money from a bank, and actually got PAID interest based on how much you borrowed, rather than saved.  Interesting stuff, can't wait to see the meter readings as more coils get added.

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