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Author Topic: Thane Heins Perepiteia.  (Read 1821383 times)

Offline Harmonic33

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4725 on: May 17, 2009, 12:48:05 AM »
@Baroutologos

Keep up the good work man.

Nice to see ppl are still moving forward with this project.

Cheerz
         Dan.
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Offline minde4000

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4726 on: May 19, 2009, 05:34:35 PM »
Could someone please advice where could I buy 28cm diam toroidal core? I have tried toroidtech and few others and all say its too big or they dont sell cores at all. I tought T mentioned that he got his from toroidtech?? Also he did mention about http://www.kryfs.com Anyone know a descent store to buy one?

Regards Minde
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Offline Nali2001

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4727 on: May 19, 2009, 09:33:01 PM »
Online core shop:
http://www.alphacoredirect.com/index.html?lmd=39634.474294

They don't stock these ultra large sizes but they do take special requests. Prices are good.

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Offline minde4000

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4728 on: May 19, 2009, 11:09:51 PM »
Quote from: Nali2001 on May 19, 2009, 09:33:01 PM
Online core shop:
http://www.alphacoredirect.com/index.html?lmd=39634.474294

They don't stock these ultra large sizes but they do take special requests. Prices are good.

Awesome Nali2001! I emailed them and got my answer already:

""  Here is the pricing for bare core  PN TCOR7x15394 including the stress relief annealing .

1 pc-$146.12
5pc- $122.58
10pc-$110.32     

            ID            OD        HT        BUILD      GAPP
 [in]    7.000       11.000    2.000      2.000     
[mm]  177.80      279.40    50.80    50.80 mm   0.00 mm

Material is M3-009 grain oriented steel  and the weight of 1 core is 29.66 lb.
We can ship in 3-5 working days.

Regards    ""

Big thanks for info. Thats the only company that gave me a positive response in a few days. Sounds like a serious company to me. Will order one tommorow   ;)

Regards Minde
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Offline Covey

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4729 on: May 21, 2009, 11:59:53 PM »
I hope Thane drops by soon this forum is in sleep mode which I hope means many people are finding the time to repeat his work.

Covey
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Offline baroutologos

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4730 on: May 22, 2009, 09:32:34 AM »
Its not easy to make a minimum setup for exploring Thane's work.

Mine setup, consists of two rotors on a saft that makes an axial pulsed super-efficient motor and to the other rotor the perepiteia HV coils design.

This setup has cost me so far - magnets ferrites & neos coils, rotor-shaft machining, transistors, capacitors etc some 500 euros and keep counting :P

I experience some difficulty in making the pulse motor so as to achieve some 3000 rpm in a 28 diam twin rotor shaft. (Ruobi grinder is the easy solution. Raw power!) but i will resolve this sooner or later.

While i am working whenever i can on this unit, i remember Thane's saying... "Arm chair inventing is easy..." :)

Regards,
Baroutologos
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Offline minde4000

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4731 on: May 22, 2009, 04:28:44 PM »
Quote from: baroutologos on May 22, 2009, 09:32:34 AM
Its not easy to make a minimum setup for exploring Thane's work.

Mine setup, consists of two rotors on a saft that makes an axial pulsed super-efficient motor and to the other rotor the perepiteia HV coils design.

This setup has cost me so far - magnets ferrites & neos coils, rotor-shaft machining, transistors, capacitors etc some 500 euros and keep counting :P

I experience some difficulty in making the pulse motor so as to achieve some 3000 rpm in a 28 diam twin rotor shaft. (Ruobi grinder is the easy solution. Raw power!) but i will resolve this sooner or later.

While i am working whenever i can on this unit, i remember Thane's saying... "Arm chair inventing is easy..." :)

Regards,
Baroutologos


Hey Baruotologos,

Its nice to see you working on it too. All I have is toroidal ring underway wire and  bobbins. Rotor will be the most expensive part of the deal I think. The dc pulse driving motor is another headache wich I might leave on a side for now. Lets keep in touch Baroutologos. Anyone else trying this pm please for confidential or open share.

Regards Minde
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4732 on: May 23, 2009, 01:10:57 AM »
Quote from: Covey on May 21, 2009, 11:59:53 PM
I hope Thane drops by soon this forum is in sleep mode which I hope means many people are finding the time to repeat his work.

Covey

Covey, not just ordinary sleep, but I would say the final sleep, I doubt he will be back. The few who are replicating should save a few things to their hard drifes and maybe form a lose
coalition off line.

Ron

If you miz spell the word then you don't get the stupid ad in the middle of your post, lol
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Offline mackensteff

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4733 on: May 23, 2009, 01:56:29 AM »
So after a year of following this religiously this is how the story ends. A promise, broken, and hints this was all a hoax. I'm a pretty cynical person, but something told me Thane's story was different. In the end he was different, he actually had me convinced and pulling for him. I actually thought I was watching a man about to change the world. In the end the world is the same, if not worse as one more person fell to ...
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4734 on: May 23, 2009, 03:17:27 AM »
Quote from: mackensteff on May 23, 2009, 01:56:29 AM
So after a year of following this religiously this is how the story ends. A promise, broken, and hints this was all a hoax. I'm a pretty cynical person, but something told me Thane's story was different. In the end he was different, he actually had me convinced and pulling for him. I actually thought I was watching a man about to change the world. In the end the world is the same, if not worse as one more person fell to ...

No hoax machensteff, and all the information to replicate was given. In the two years we were privileged to see this project grow and take shape and the man grow in knowledge along with it. It was a great ride, right?

But a man has to eat and take care of his family also, maybe a bigger company bought the smaller company and the word is now no more list... period. Possibly the demo was postponed to a later date... whether it has happened yet I don't know. More than that I can't say. I was told some info but also asked to keep certain things confidential, so walking a fine line here. edit, The last post I received was mostly to family.

As you may recall 'just me' used to poste pictures for him... then he sent some pictures to me that I failed to post and got shit because I didn't. Then when more pictures were sent to me I posted a couple  and was then accused of breach of NDA... but I felt he should have made a statement to us following the "non demo", so failing that I am feeding in little 'what ifs' just to keep the list from taking the wrong path.

Take care all,

Ron

edit: right on Hydro, I too say Thanks Mr T, all the best!!!


« Last Edit: May 23, 2009, 04:12:51 AM by i_ron »
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Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4735 on: May 23, 2009, 04:03:55 AM »
Quote from: i_ron on May 23, 2009, 03:17:27 AM
No hoax machensteff, and all the information to replicate was given. In the two years we were privileged to see this project grow and take shape and the man grow in knowledge along with it. It was a great ride, right?

 Yes it was a great ride. The information is still here for replication. Grab it while you can. Grab Thanes videos while you can. Thane did what he promised. Full Disclosure. Not a hoax. Not a failure. Just because he is not here to hold the replicators hand does not mean he dropped the ball. A public OU forum is not the best way to make continued progress. Check out Dr. Stifflers thread. He finally gave up on the public forum as it is 95% armchair people that generate "noise" which keeps the 5% that actually want to make progress at bay and in a confused state. A much smaller and tighter group of people that has members doing "hands on building" makes a lot more positive progress. Out of all the people reading and making comments on Thanes thread there at maybe 8 people that are replicating in some fashion. That is a low percentage.
I wish Thane well in his future whatever direction that may take.
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Offline Covey

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4736 on: May 23, 2009, 04:57:01 AM »
Quote from: i_ron on May 23, 2009, 01:10:57 AM
Covey, not just ordinary sleep, but I would say the final sleep, I doubt he will be back. The few who are replicating should save a few things to their hard drifes and maybe form a lose
coalition off line.


That's to bad very sad to hear that Thane is not coming back to the forum. The last time he logged in was on the day of his Demo , I wonder if he was hesitant to say something to us.
I did download his first videos and I'll start grabbing all his newer ones, really love that free program YouTube Downloader. It works great..

I can't afford to do any of the things that's being done but it's definitely being stored for the time and I'll keep looking into the forum from time to time. Interesting how he was so involved and poof things changed so quickly, if it was a failure he said he would be the first person to admit it. Mind you I don't know if that's his true personality but if it is he would've told us it was a bust, at least. So it all comes down to if any of us know his true personality and it was honorable; would make this suspicious or was he the person who was to prideful to admit failure.
Oh my God I'm a conspiracy theorist.. lol
Anyway good luck on those of you who continue I look forward to hearing more replicated successful approaches of Thane's work.

See you in the future!!

Covey WhiteGold
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4737 on: May 23, 2009, 05:41:52 AM »
Quote from: Covey on May 23, 2009, 04:57:01 AM
That's to bad very sad to hear that Thane is not coming back to the forum. The last time he logged in was on the day of his Demo , I wonder if he was hesitant to say something to us.
I did download his first videos and I'll start grabbing all his newer ones, really love that free program YouTube Downloader. It works great..snip

Anyway good luck on those of you who continue I look forward to hearing more replicated successful approaches of Thane's work.

See you in the future!!

Covey WhiteGold

Covey, now don't quote me on his not coming back, ya just never know?

But as for the tech, it is nothing mysterious. See Hop toads work and even my post of 2541 page 255 pre dates Mr T's last coil setup... 27 watts out for a cost of 19 watts. This on a very non optimized set up. So look at lots of turns and bring
the voltage out high, although the frequency is way up there and the cores were never sized properly... even at 400Hz the cores should have been way smaller... look it up, 400Hz was a standard and you can buy 400Hz transformers...

You or any of the other replicators that what to stay in touch please do so. (off line) I am not working on this myself at this time but might some time in the future ....?

Ron



 
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Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4738 on: May 23, 2009, 06:00:30 AM »
Quote from: Covey on May 23, 2009, 04:57:01 AM
That's to bad very sad to hear that Thane is not coming back to the forum. The last time he logged in was on the day of his Demo , I wonder if he was hesitant to say something to us.

 It is hard to say if Thane will come back. Considering he was not totally in control of his research might be part of reason. All one has to do is look at a few points.

1. Where was Thane doing his research ? A University. Where do most larger Universities like where Thane was at get their funding ? Universities like to keep a noncontroversial image to keep their funding. Think Fleischmann-Pons cold fusion research and funding. It may work but in may change the world too quickly to control. Those in control want to stay in control.

2. Thane was making great progress. Progress cost $$$. $$$ has to come from somewhere. Thane was not independently wealthy and was not doing this out of his garage. So someone or some organization was funding this.. If $$$ goes away so does progress.

3. Unless you can control every aspect of a project from location to $$$ then someone else is going to call the shots. Those shots may not be the shots you want but you have to feed yourself and your family so what choice do you have.
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Offline mackensteff

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Re: Thane Heins Perepiteia.
« Reply #4739 on: May 23, 2009, 09:24:58 AM »
I never felt it was a hoax. Where I felt led astray was in Thane's idealistic approach to stick to the man. I understand about taking care of family, but my point was Thane appeared at first to be one of those revolutionaries that would change the world, because it needs to.  I the end it does all come down to money, control, and power. No matter what our ideals are at some point we all end up 'playing the game' with someone elses  rules.  I wanted Thane to write the rules.  No disrespect intended as I realize Thane has made sacrifices, just looking for that someone to set the world on a new path.
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