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Author Topic: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile  (Read 50123 times)

Offline acp

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2007, 10:48:52 AM »
It already has. Take the U.S backed Israel programs of annexation and cantonization of land and resources which is breaking up Palestinian territories into unviable cantons. These actions have been condemned by the UN security council and termed illegal by the world courts. Does it make any difference? No. They are free. There are endless examples.  About the only thing worrying the americans at the moment is China, because they refuse to be intimidated by the U.S, unlike, practically the rest of the world.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2007, 11:02:09 AM »
It already has. Take the U.S backed Israel programs of annexation and cantonization of land and resources which is breaking up Palestinian territories into unviable cantons. These actions have been condemned by the UN security council and termed illegal by the world courts. Does it make any difference? No. They are free. There are endless examples.  About the only thing worrying the americans at the moment is China, because they refuse to be intimidated by the U.S, unlike, practically the rest of the world.
UN's jurisdiction doesn't apply to the US. Neither do jurisdictions of other countries. You seem to forget that. The US politicians proclaimed by the US courts to be criminals are all in jail. The US politicians who haven't been found guilty in a court of law are not in jail and you mustn't call them criminals. OK? As for China, Chinese system today is a creation of the US, China is an appendage to the US business, depends on it entirely ideologically and financially and is as much of a threat to the US as any mastodon business structure getting out of control is a threat to the US.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2007, 11:14:41 AM »
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UN's jurisdiction doesn't apply to the US. Neither do jurisdictions of other countries.

The U.S doesn't answer to anyone, I Believe Chomsky is quite correct in his assertion that "what the U.S say goes. Just look at what Bush1 said after the first invasion of Irak, This is the start of a new world order, what we says goes"


China holds about a trillion dollars of U.S debt at the moment, and has massive investments in U.S bonds. Although they rely on U.S at the moment for exports, who knows if that will change, they are busy clinching trade deals with a lot of important countries. The recent test by the Chinese when they blew out one of their own antimissile satelites caused enormous unrest amongst the U.S administration.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2007, 11:14:41 AM »
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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2007, 05:42:32 PM »
It already has. Take the U.S backed Israel programs of annexation and cantonization of land and resources which is breaking up Palestinian territories into unviable cantons. These actions have been condemned by the UN security council and termed illegal by the world courts. Does it make any difference? No. They are free. There are endless examples.  About the only thing worrying the americans at the moment is China, because they refuse to be intimidated by the U.S, unlike, practically the rest of the world.
UN's jurisdiction doesn't apply to the US. Neither do jurisdictions of other countries. You seem to forget that. The US politicians proclaimed by the US courts to be criminals are all in jail. The US politicians who haven't been found guilty in a court of law are not in jail and you mustn't call them criminals. OK? As for China, Chinese system today is a creation of the US, China is an appendage to the US business, depends on it entirely ideologically and financially and is as much of a threat to the US as any mastodon business structure getting out of control is a threat to the US.

I hardly know you, dude. But some things are obvious. You are rabid, you offend, and your morals and ethics are obviously skewed via animalism tied to your logic. You understand little, or you project garbage to push your emotionally based point of view.

It would be very difficult to say that you are here on this forum for humanity's sake. Your post stinks of racism and bigotry.

Get thee to a doctor.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2007, 05:44:13 PM »
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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2007, 05:44:13 PM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2007, 08:06:37 PM »
@Prophmaji,

Mind your own business and don't mess with me.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2007, 09:31:17 AM »
Omnibus is right, but calling the bush administration the US is not very accurate. This new world order peeps plan on using the us army to slaughter China and the Russian army to do the same in the US while the army is away. This was all known before 1980. The Iraq part of the plan was spot on. The FEMA camps are already build.

However, Free energy would change their whole agenda. They would want to see what the effect is. If we manage to salve the problems ourselves they don't need to prune the globe.

There are quite a few patents disclosing improvements of electric motors. If you read those you see they avoid saying their machine is making energy.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=9NQiAAAAEBAJ
D.C. electric motor - Google Patents

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/troy-reed
magnetmotor: Troy Reed

This is his old stuff.


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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2007, 09:31:17 AM »
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Offline Prophmaji

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2007, 03:45:05 PM »
The motor designs with plastic magnets filled with nano iron is potentially a quick way to overunity. You can begin making these youself, in terms of testing. Nano-iron is easily available, and so is the idea of casting plastics. Your homework assignment is to add that pair to charging the structure during the casting process. Very high permeability combined with interesting dielectric and polarization considerations. With interestingly low inductive reactance thrown into the mix as well, as that is a mass based consideration, not really perfectly tied to the magnetics. The magnet version of the nano-gold impregated super capacitor.

As for the rest of it, It goes back a long ways.(for those of us without the capacity to understand the truth existent around the history of approximately the last 100 years) If it is the way you like to think it is...then..Putin may be ruining the game. With approximately 8 attempts on his life so far, it's difficult to say who's pocket he is in.

« Last Edit: October 12, 2007, 04:27:22 PM by Prophmaji »

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2007, 06:18:39 PM »
@Prophmaji,

Did you know what the State of Missouri is--'Show Me" state. Otherwise yours are empty words and wishful thinking.


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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2007, 06:18:39 PM »
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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2007, 04:13:09 AM »
@Prophmaji,

Did you know what the State of Missouri is--'Show Me" state. Otherwise yours are empty words and wishful thinking.



No-one has to show you anything. You know that. I can't be bothered.

But, I feel this is nessesary: I apologize.

My slight rant was colored by a a thread on whether you should be banned or not; usually I don't fall for the preconceived notion crap. I stated in that thread that folks who continually cause grief on a forum should be given one..two..three...strikes..and then banned with extreme prejudice and zero warning. I had no experience with you beforehand. But..the thread colored my expectations. I have re-read my post/response..and it was a bit over the top. To balance a bit, you seem to come on pretty strong in a very 'America first'  way and with some preconceived bias - that much is definitely argueable. It should be noted that America has been killing it's citizenry literally, from day 1. So like most countries, there is little that is truly noble about America. Only the odd realistic and humane citizen, just like everywhere else.

If you are speaking of the nano-particles in plastic, do your own work. I don't have the time.  I propose the idea, from understandings that I have, you do the research if you want to. I don't owe you squat.


If you speak on Putin, that is pulled from Russian newspaper reports and interviews with Putin. When and where, I've no exact recollection.

As for Missouri....It also has a donkey/mule for a state mascot, does it not?

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2007, 04:56:59 AM »
It should be noted that America has been killing it's citizenry literally, from day 1. So like most countries, there is little that is truly noble about America. Only the odd realistic and humane citizen, just like everywhere else.

A little bit of a backhanded apology there.  I do not know why it is so damn fashionable to bash America.  I also do not know what you mean by "killing its citizenry."  The humane american is not an oddity but the norm, and I will now list some noble acts that maybe you missed.

We rescued Europe in WW2.

After WW2, if it was not for the U.S., all of Western Europe and god knows what else would be communist now.  I am not joking, and if you know anything about Soviet world domination goals of the late '40s through the '70s, you would realize that this is true.  If you really think the Soviet tanks would have stopped at Berlin, had Americans not been there to meet them, you are sadly mistaken.  And I am speaking as a former Soviet citizen, who now lives in the U.S.

In any U.N. mission, U.S. is first in funding and first in supplying military personnel.

We spend enormous amounts of money on foreign aid, both privately and through federal funding.

I could go on, but it's late.  I do not know if you are a self-loathing american or an american-loathing non-American or what, but I thought your off-handed statement warranted a response.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2007, 04:56:59 AM »
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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2007, 08:17:16 AM »
@All,

I spoke with an examiner and will pursue this thing further. Amazingly, the patentee has brought several models to the US Patent Office but none of them had been a working model, just experiment "demonstrating" that potentially such motor can be built. And this is how the examiners were convinced of its viability!? Interestingly, although the very title says "Permanent Magnet Motor" the examiner tried to persuade me that the patent had been issued solely for the partiular construction of the magnet device. When I pressed him he said that the approval of this patent has passed several levels of scrutiny and the final decision hasn't been only his. Of course, I have no intention of harming anybody at the patent office while recognizing that we're all humans and mistakes are made. This is a serious mistake (not to require proof positive for such an important claim of far-reaching consequences), however, and it must be corrected. The examiner insisted that I should contact Frank Fecera himself. Aside from the fact that I did that and all my attempts to speak to him were in vain (I hear only a message on his answering machine, not to say that it was very difficult to get his telephone number) I think that it's US Patent Office's duty to require a demonstration if they want to save face. This patent is on public record and no excuses with NDA's and private companies' rules hold any water this time. Steorn, Torbay, Perendev etc. may escape from such scrutiny. This one cannot. Besides, Steorn would be out of their minds to demonstrate anything before Fecera proves that his device is viable, otherwise Steorn will be infringing on Fecera's patent and Fecera will own everything Steorn demonstrates. This is the status of this important inquiry as of today.

Does anyone know how a review process of an already issued patent can be initiated in the US Patent Office by a third party?

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2007, 08:43:05 AM »
Shrugged:

I could not agree with you more. Prophmaji must not know his history or lives in another country where history is not available.  We have our flaws here in America, but no country in the history of the planet has done more for the people of the world than we have.  Have we always done the correct thing?  Of course not.  But who does the world come to when they need money for a disaster, or aid for their failed government.  Us, yes US.  This is not a political forum so I will hold the rest of my thoughts for now, except to say that anyone that lives here that thinks the way Prophmaji does thinks needs to leave, we won't stop him. (One of our freedoms)  and if he already lives in another country...good stay there, we don't need you.

Bill

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2007, 08:47:32 AM »
G'day all,

The only way for a third party to get a review of a patent is in COURT.

If you have the money to do it go ahead, if not, get stuffed.

It is called democracy.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2007, 09:28:28 AM »
Your opiniion isn't needed. You're semi-educated scientifically and you don't understand democracy. Just, stay away from this discussion.

 

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