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Author Topic: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor  (Read 12846 times)

tinman

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2023, 11:55:40 AM »
I'm far from a Bedini expert to ask this, but does anyone ever run such circuits from capacitors? Just to make sure you're not sucking chemical cycle life from the battery. Any other reason Bedini trickery wouldn't "start" let alone "loop" from capacitors?

Many of us have tried, but there just isn't enough houdini voodoo to keep the motors going.

Here is a video of my second most efficient motor.
It is a window motor, that has magnetic bearings, that i built 11 years ago.
Running on caps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67R5ksfFF14&t=9s

Cloxxki

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2023, 02:07:28 PM »
Thanks for sharing, great work!
No "runner", but at least no precious batteries were degraded for that build.

tinman

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2023, 02:20:01 PM »
Thanks for sharing, great work!
No "runner", but at least no precious batteries were degraded for that build.

I would have liked to have tried it in a vacuum chamber, as it did shift a large volume of air for very little power.
If that energy that was shifting the air was able to be turned into a higher rpm, so as the gen coil produced just a little more power, then i recon it would have been very close to a self runner. But before i could build a vacuum tank, i dropped the rotor, and it smashed into a million pieces.

Non the less, i have since built an even more efficient motor, with a very different working principle.
Will be posting that soon. Just printing up the final body for it now.

norman6538

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2023, 10:50:05 PM »
So Tinman when the inductor is being charged there is no BEMF but when its magnetic field collapses there is BEMF. What about the capacitor? It has no magnetic field and should have no BEMF from the collapsing field.

What would happen if we put a second coil where the capacitor is? Would that increase the efficiency of the original charge being recycled back and forth?

Norman

Cloxxki

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2023, 12:31:09 AM »
I would have liked to have tried it in a vacuum chamber, as it did shift a large volume of air for very little power.
If that energy that was shifting the air was able to be turned into a higher rpm, so as the gen coil produced just a little more power, then i recon it would have been very close to a self runner. But before i could build a vacuum tank, i dropped the rotor, and it smashed into a million pieces.

Non the less, i have since built an even more efficient motor, with a very different working principle.
Will be posting that soon. Just printing up the final body for it now.
I didn't want to comment on that earlier but your rotor was pretty efficiently shaped, is a water wheel or ground effect fan. Why not put it in a smooth plastic case? Static? Or wood? Even paper and tape?

tinman

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2023, 11:00:39 AM »
So Tinman when the inductor is being charged there is no BEMF but when its magnetic field collapses there is BEMF. What about the capacitor? It has no magnetic field and should have no BEMF from the collapsing field.

What would happen if we put a second coil where the capacitor is? Would that increase the efficiency of the original charge being recycled back and forth?

Norman

No, you have it backward.
When an inductor is being !charged! as you call it, that is when it produces Back EMF.
During the inductive kickback part of the cycle, there is no Back EMF being produced in the inductor, as the inductor is now the source of current flow.

seychelles

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2023, 11:22:43 AM »
WHEN AN INDUCTOR IS POWERED UP ELECTRICALLY THE MAGNETIC FIELD AROUND THE COIL PUSHES BACK AGAINST
THE ETHER AND WHEN POWER IS SWITCHED OFF ETHER PUSHES BACK THE MAGNETIC FIELD WHICH CAUSES
THE BACK EMF.

Cloxxki

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2023, 01:46:04 PM »
WHEN AN INDUCTOR IS POWERED UP ELECTRICALLY THE MAGNETIC FIELD AROUND THE COIL PUSHES BACK AGAINST
THE ETHER AND WHEN POWER IS SWITCHED OFF ETHER PUSHES BACK THE MAGNETIC FIELD WHICH CAUSES
THE BACK EMF.
I know we're discussing caps, but do you need to write in all caps?

seychelles

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2023, 02:51:53 PM »
TRIVIAL PEDANTIC BULLSHIT ALWAYS GET SOME IDIOTS PISSED OFF.

Cloxxki

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2023, 11:56:33 PM »
TRIVIAL PEDANTIC BULLSHIT ALWAYS GET SOME IDIOTS PISSED OFF.
In that lovely piece of prose, are you the one bringing the trivial pedantic bullshit, or are you the pissed off idiot?
With that peculiar writing style and "alternative" to common English grammar, it's really hard for neurotypical readers to tell what you are trying to convey.

Declare the name or family relation to one single person who told you it was alright to type in all caps? Was it a priest blessing your typing? Did loving parent teach you this way? An inspired university professor?
Did whatever you're trying to accomplish here ever pay off for you, in any way? If so, what was it?

Thaelin

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2023, 10:30:56 AM »
My 2 cents worth. My first Terminal was all caps all the time. No lower case at all. Very easy to read on the eyes. Not sure who decided that this was now considered shouting. Not to me, just caps is all. Easy to read too. My work requires "all" caps in a non-conformance report so it is very easy to read and understand. To me it is just mr grammer  at it again. OK, so it was 4 cents worth.
thay


ramset

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2023, 01:52:25 PM »
Tolerance
Applied liberally..


Hugs to the very loud fisherman
In the middle of the ocean …


 Who knows ?
Someday he may be the last vestige of humanity ( saved by his isolation?)




And his boldness may be necessary…( to be heard)
Until then ?
Good to practice!


Back to this “thing we do”
Here I am stuck for a bit in a place called sheep’s head bay ( Brooklyn NYC 14 million people in a 50-? Mile radius
Not very isolated … but the same ocean is a stones throw away…

Cloxxki

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2023, 02:34:04 PM »
My 2 cents worth. My first Terminal was all caps all the time. No lower case at all. Very easy to read on the eyes. Not sure who decided that this was now considered shouting. Not to me, just caps is all. Easy to read too. My work requires "all" caps in a non-conformance report so it is very easy to read and understand. To me it is just mr grammer  at it again. OK, so it was 4 cents worth.
thay

To those working with all caps in programming and the like, it might subjectively be easier to read. I doubt a majority of society would agree to it. We have a way to write, it's taught universally. Disemvoweled text can be read well by some people, yet it hasn't become a norm for some reason.
What are the pros and cons of adopting a wholly different typing style in a public setting? The odd and very stubborn preference of the one, chosen to (or certainly happy to) frustrate a large part of the audience. It's the individual placing oneself of over its audience and in this case, immediately trying to insult that audience althought that got lost in "translation" somewhere. One could easily start an all caps platform, or a browser than universally converts between it and normal script for the benefit of the odd one that likes it differently. Make direct insulst to others an accepted thing as well, as that seems to have an exceedingly high correlation with the all caps thing. But to come in to a public one and subject other to it...the one versus the many...where is the net positive?


Name one best selling novel written this way, one popular scientific study, etc?

I might change my view on this if an all caps writer emerged who was eloquent and helpful and friendly. From my personal experience, this is a super rare combination.

In some forms of script, all caps are used to express a statement deemed to be true. All caps writers indeed seldomly seem to use question marks to open themselves to the insights of others. I could be wrong there. Either way, even if there are use cases for all caps, a forum, by definition interactive, isn't served with all caps posts. Any reasoning behind it would best be soaked in helpful information, courtesy and kindness. Now where do we ever get that? Even if it existed, it still doesn't serve a purpose.
In English, there is a lack of articulation tools, at least compared to my native language where we can put an áccent on vowels. So I MIGHT as time use an all caps word in stead, and I see others do it as well, with limited frustration of others unless overused. As in all caps text.

If one needs easier to read text, just crank up the text size on your desktop settings or hit CTLR +. Imagine nearsighted people forced the general public in their vicinity to all see the world and them through thick lenses...

seychelles

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2023, 04:54:44 PM »
SO WHAT YOU CALL A MAN WHO WING AND CARRY ON LIKE A PREGNANT SUPER KAREN.
OH I GOT IT KEN OR GREG. TAKE A CHILL PILL MAN WE ARE ALL GOING TO HEAVEN, YOU
ARE WELCOME TO COME.

Cloxxki

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Re: Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2023, 07:40:34 PM »
SO WHAT YOU CALL A MAN WHO WING AND CARRY ON LIKE A PREGNANT SUPER KAREN.
OH I GOT IT KEN OR GREG. TAKE A CHILL PILL MAN WE ARE ALL GOING TO HEAVEN, YOU
ARE WELCOME TO COME.
You answer questions and suggestions without real content,.with just more loud mouthed attitude. Comes across ultra insecure. Like uneducated guys in very large vehicles showing off grotesk jewellery and tattoos, barking at everything that moves. It just doesn't work as well online.

Would be great if you'd crank up the attitude a tiny bit more as Stefan has warmed up to the idea of banning people who don't want to play nice. Any more nasty remarks you'd like to share? Show us what you're really made up, show us how you have decided to stand out from the crowd.