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"inductive kickback" is another common name for Back EMF, especially in the context of electrical circuits and systems.

When a current flowing through an inductive coil is suddenly interrupted, the magnetic field collapses, and the energy has to go somewhere. This can result in a sudden voltage spike or "kickback" across the coil. It's a manifestation of the principles underlying electromotive forces and provides a fascinating avenue for exploration.

"Back EMF" often describes a continuous phenomenon where the induced electromotive force opposes the direction of the applied voltage, such as in the operation of a motor.

"Inductive kickback," on the other hand, tends to describe a more sudden and transient phenomenon, like a spike in voltage when the current in an inductive circuit is abruptly interrupted.

These subtle differences in context can lead to the preference of one term over the other in specific situations.

BEMF or CEMF as found in the Bedini SSG  Energizer is a reverse voltage that opposes the applied voltage supplied by the primary battery.

Inductive collapse is when the coil tries to maintain the loss of current, as the transistor shuts off the flow of current to the inductor, the voltage will increase trying to maintain the sudden loss of current, which it cannot and it collapses and we see a large transient high voltage spike that travels in the opposite direction as the applied voltage of the primary battery. The diode sends these coil collapse spikes to the secondary battery for charging.

The Bedini SSG with all north’s produces two EMF’s, one is CEMF that will charge the primary battery, when a high inductance coil is used and the second EMF that is opposite and out of phase to the CEMF that does add to the inductive collapse going to the secondary battery.

The North Pole generates one positive and one negative EMF.

Dave Wing

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BEMF or CEMF as found in the Bedini SSG  Energizer is a reverse voltage that opposes the applied voltage supplied by the primary battery.

Actually, the BEMF voltage is of the same polarity as the applied voltage, only slightly lower when a voltage is dropped across an inductor. The difference between the applied voltage and BEMF voltage increases over time, which is why current flow increases over time. The BEMF voltage can be calculated at any time through the charging cycle of the inductor.

Inductive collapse is when the coil tries to maintain the loss of current, as the transistor shuts off the flow of current to the inductor, the voltage will increase trying to maintain the sudden loss of current,

The voltage across the inductor will invert once the source is disconnected. The voltage increases due to the rapid collapse of the magnetic field around the inductor. The peak value of this inductive kickback voltage will depend on the loads voltage value, or resistive value. The coils collapsing magnetic field induces an electric field/electric potential across the coil, which is what maintains the current flow through the coil. The peak current value will never exceed that of what the coil reached during the charging process.

The Bedini SSG with all north’s produces two EMF’s, one is CEMF that will charge the primary battery, when a high inductance coil is used

This would depend on whether the coil was wound CW or CCW.

and the second EMF that is opposite and out of phase to the CEMF that does add to the inductive collapse going to the secondary battery.

Your far better off winding a third winding on the coil, hooking the outputs to a FWBR, and sending all that energy right back to a single run battery, and getting rid of the charge battery altogether.

Brad

This is the symmetrical AC waveform of an all north Bedini SSG.

This screen shot was taken from https://youtu.be/OSJF3GlYGVc?si=50EryhVsEiPSidTb

The image analogy is for a small DC non-pulse motor, where the inductive kickback is discharged into the motor windings.

Peter Lindemann describes BEMF, the video is very good and is the first part of a three part series on Electric Motor Secrets.
Found here https://emediapress.com/shop/electric-motor-secrets/

I recommend purchasing these video’s for your library.

The videos, books, and the pulse motors show nothing at all out of the ordinary.
Their books of secrets have no secrets.
They just peddle garbage and lies in order to make a buck.

The videos, books, and the pulse motors show nothing at all out of the ordinary.
Their books of secrets have no secrets.
They just peddle garbage and lies in order to make a buck.

I don’t think it is garbage, in my opinion they are trying to get us to think about this… the lesson’s I gathered is to use the CEMF to work with you and not against you. CEMF can be recovered along with the inductive coil collapse. That is the lesson they teach.

Dave Wing

I don’t think it is garbage, in my opinion they are trying to get us to think about this… the lesson’s I gathered is to use the CEMF to work with you and not against you. CEMF can be recovered along with the inductive coil collapse. That is the lesson they teach.

Dave Wing

If that is what you read from those !books of secrets! they sell, then i rest my case.

The CEMF or BEMF already works with you.
CEMF or BEMF cannot be recovered. as it only exists while the inductor is connected to a power source, and the current is still building in the inductor. This CEMF/BEMF value is always less than that of the source supplied EMF, due to the windings resistance.

The only thing any of those guys teach, is how to destroy batteries.
Think about it. They put out all these books of secrets, but not a single one of them has a self running device.
They sell you these books and video's, but can't build a self runner them self lol.

They are snake oil salesmen-nothing more.
You would get better information from people like me and many others here--and for free.

Out of all the people that have follow these snake oil salesmens advice over all these years, how many have a self running device ?

If that is what you read from those !books of secrets! they sell, then i rest my case.

The CEMF or BEMF already works with you.
CEMF or BEMF cannot be recovered. as it only exists while the inductor is connected to a power source, and the current is still building in the inductor. This CEMF/BEMF value is always less than that of the source supplied EMF, due to the windings resistance.

The only thing any of those guys teach, is how to destroy batteries.
Think about it. They put out all these books of secrets, but not a single one of them has a self running device.
They sell you these books and video's, but can't build a self runner them self lol.

They are snake oil salesmen-nothing more.
You would get better information from people like me and many others here--and for free.

Out of all the people that have follow these snake oil salesmens advice over all these years, how many have a self running device ?

If you use the sides of the magnets and not the north or South Pole faces of the magnets you will see for yourself, you will see the Bloch wall will repel iron, which is opposite to north / south poles which attract. A pulse motor will run extremely well when run in this manner. It is an area worth exploring. When you see the waveform I posted you can see an amplitude difference, it is not symmetrical, it is at least at a 2:1 ratio. I would say this approach is closer to unity than anything I have seen or done to date. I know where I am going next, I know my next move in my build. I am shooting for unity in recovery and then cascading the system. Right now I can demonstrate 60-70% recovery with free mechanical. The machine will draw close to 70 percent less current under load, when compared to running at no load speed and still maintain at least 50-60% recovery at load.

When a pulse motor is spinning it’s rotor it is acting as a generator, CEMF is being generated and it can charge a parallel capacitor to higher than the supply voltage when the primary dc pulse motor power source is removed. The generating pulse will charge the cap to well beyond the primary supply voltage. That is possible, I have done that many times. If you disconnect the power source CEMF has to be force charging the cap. Unless you have some other explanation?

How much real recovery have you been able achieve on your pulse motor builds? In vs out?

Out of all from Tesla to now and anyone in between I have yet to see anyone give plans on how to build over unity pulse motor system. Maybe you could site one?

Bedini circuit does not destroy batteries, you have to neglect and abuse your batteries to get them to fail. So your statement is false. Any battery will fail if you undercharge, overcharge or misuse them.


Dave Wing