I'm exhausted for the night, need rest....but you are thinking.  But again...there is more MUCH more...watch the videos in very slow motion..  Spend time learning generator basics.  For example, what types of generators are there?  There are many, but which one fits his device.  What is the piston to his generator?  What is it in your device that is not giving you this piston?  Think simple....don't over complicate.  Its human to over complicate.   Then ask gain, why is he using roughly 25 volts., I won't say how...I think many see this but don't want to say.


Jerdee.

~25V depends on this secret but it can be the minimum of this device.

Ok. Just a simple question.
If Cap-bank is not feeding something and just lays between the bridge and the collecting coil diodes, then why the bank discharges that fast during transition between main's socket and rotor's output? I mean, if diodes block the charges from either direction while the current that goes to relays is so small then why the bank discharges and so Pierre needs to move very quickly when he changes sockets for a self feeding action?

Listener et all,

  I can not confirm but strongly suggest that your coil slots have to line up with your rotational fields!  PC uses 36/6 = 6 slots, with 30 poles, you are left with 30/6 = 5 slots per winding.  The biggest issue PC is having is his width of the pure field!  The criss-crossing of the magnetic windings does not allow him much options.  This is why he is building a better device.  This is also why we want as many possible slots divisible by 6 on the ROTOR!  If we had a 60 slots on the same size stator, we can then get 60 slots divisible by 6 equaling 10 slots per coil.  We've now created a wider and smoother area to maintain the PURE field.  With the 30 slot rotor, we are doing the opposite, we are losing resolution, which is not good.  This is why the 36 slot rotor is better than the 30 slot system.  But I still believe we can see this effect for sure even with the 30.  Think of it as a digitally controlled rotational field in increments.  I believe we want the highest amount of increments per PURE field.  With a normal generator, the values are infinite, its analog right?!?!

Again, study generator basics. Every one is only seeing one half of the picture.  Again...the rotational field windings is NOT the only answer!!!  I keep saying this.  There is MORE!!!!!

Also, my original thought of using twice the amount of half bridges to strengthen the field is possibly not good!  You will lose something very important.  So the schematic shown below only shows three active half bridges with three more later in overlap.  So only 6 active at any one point in time.   Just like PC.  With his and your relay system using no double throw you have no choice but to keep 60 relays on your system. Which I believe will be fine enough to study the effect.  You will however lose considerable speed and quality of holding the field in rotation with your relays.  This is his hash he is showing in his scope shot.  With half bridges, you can easily smooth this out with a bypass cap.  This is why half bridges have a considerable advantage.  MUCH higher speeds and controlled overlap of the field at these higher speeds.  Higher speeds are important for this device.

Remember this....the STATOR is what makes the current, not the current into the relays.  Your armature output is only colleting the EMF.  I'm certain of this.  Have you asked yourself why PC uses 25V?  And no, we are not braking lenz law here.

Hope this helps,
Jerdee

Hi Jerdee,
I Agree with your first paragraph above.

I have confirmed the induction limitation is purely due to the low frequency using relays. Pierre had another means of increasing frequency.
When you say "study generator basics" and "there is more" are you saying that you know what this is?
Regards
L192

As someone with little knowledge, I ask why use cylindrical design for this when it doesn't have moving parts....wouldn't a linear design provide more flexibility and perhaps efficiency?

As someone with little knowledge, I ask why use cylindrical design for this when it doesn't have moving parts....wouldn't a linear design provide more flexibility and perhaps efficiency?

Like in http://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg521432/#msg521432 ?
At least that one is in the line to test on my bench.

One of the reasons we have not seen Pierres machine run again, maybe due to relay contacts developing high resistance. This has happened on many of my relays.
Initially they all gave equal coil currents now there is a large variance.
A static test shows the contacts have likely burnt. None were driven over their rating but without arc suppression caps I guess it was inevitable.
Two choices change the relays or back to Half bridges.
L192

PC's frequency is correct.  However there is so much more room for improvement.  Wire size and turns will play a big deal moving forward.  It will slap you in the face, once you get it.  It is hidden for sure, and understand why PC has discovered a very important effect.  He has given all the answers in his videos.  Constantly ask yourself questions that relate to a true generator.  If you don't understand true generator basics.  Then you will not get his device.  His very uniquely hidden concept is in every single generator.  Again, which type of A/C generator does PC's device most closely resemble?  Then study it's components and cycles.  Ask yourslef what is your device missing that a normal generator always has.  When you find the answer...it will hit you hard and you'll see that PC is not hidding any truth in his words and videos.

I have no problem in understanding the two basic types of AC generator.The stator distributed windings and wound rotor are similar to a synchronous alternator in reverse, except the stator winding is
 energised instead of the rotor.
The big difference is the energisation of whole sections of  the DZ stator windings, whereas the alternator only energises the rotor (DC) which sweeps across the stator windings. For a two pole rotor, every 180 degrees there is a flux polarity reversal. In the case of the DZ generator there are 6 polarity reversals in 360 degrees.
Both generators use distributed windings to approximate a sinewave, although on a 30 slot stator a 3 phase alternator only has to accommodate 3 groups of windings so there is a gap between coils which produces more of a sine rather than a triangular wave.

So Jerdee, why are you so cryptic in your posts, I thought this is supposed to be an open forum?
Regards
L192


 

Just looking at the relay specs,it may be false economy to replace these.
The 10,000 operation life would easily be exceeded in a couple of hours running.
L192