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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 2231904 times)

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3120 on: April 12, 2015, 12:20:11 AM »
An experimental result from Hong Kong.

Tseung: "Have you started experiments of QMOGENs yet?"

Organization X: "We put an Unbalanced Bicycle Wheel similar to your Chan Wheel on the same shaft as our motor and measured the resultant torque.  Measurements confirmed that much higher torque was generated."

Tseung: "That was the Chalkalis Experiment.  Have you linked it to the generator yet?"

Organization X: "That will be the next step.  Much more work is needed.  A dedicated team will study your lead-out energy theory and Flying Saucer.  We shall do it properly with the necessary resources."

Tseung: "Do you mind sharing the results openly?"

Organization X: "That will be one possible option.  It depends on the result and how much resource we actually put in.  I can confirm that a much higher resultant torque is produced at this time."

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3121 on: April 12, 2015, 12:51:56 AM »
An experimental result from Hong Kong.

Tseung: "Have you started experiments of QMOGENs yet?"

Organization X: "We put an Unbalanced Bicycle Wheel similar to your Chan Wheel on the same shaft as our motor and measured the resultant torque.  Not only was there no additional torque, the shaft broke and now we have to repair it."

Organization X: Measurements confirmed that this is a bunch of crap!."


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Tseung: "That was the Chalkalis Experiment.  Have you linked it to the generator yet?"


Organization X: " Are you kidding me?  We still have to repair our broken shaft."

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Tseung: "Do you mind sharing the results openly?"


Organization X: "No, we don't mind.  I already told you that our machine broke and it will cost us a lot of money to repair.  Are you going to pay for the damage?"

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memoryman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3122 on: April 12, 2015, 02:36:51 AM »
Did Lawrence just invent a torque multiplier?
They give Nobel prizes for things like that, don't they?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3123 on: April 12, 2015, 02:49:39 AM »
An experimental result from Hong Kong.

Tseung: "Have you started experiments of QMOGENs yet?"

Organization X: "We put an Unbalanced Bicycle Wheel similar to your Chan Wheel on the same shaft as our motor and measured the resultant torque.  Measurements confirmed that much higher torque was generated."

Tseung: "That was the Chalkalis Experiment.  Have you linked it to the generator yet?"

Organization X: "That will be the next step.  Much more work is needed.  A dedicated team will study your lead-out energy theory and Flying Saucer.  We shall do it properly with the necessary resources."

Tseung: "Do you mind sharing the results openly?"

Organization X: "That will be one possible option.  It depends on the result and how much resource we actually put in.  I can confirm that a much higher resultant torque is produced at this time."

Lawrence
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HAHAHA, that was a good one  ;D ! Words, words, words, and some people are just ignorant enough to get fooled. They will NEVER share the results with nobody - it is too embarrassing  ;D ;D

Why can't you just look at my video with the imbalanced wheel, and see for yourself that these people does not have a single clue of what they're doing? THERE IS NO OVERUNITY IN IMBALANCE - IT IS JUST IMBALANCE!!! GOT IT? :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3RAL-SWjc

Vidar

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3124 on: April 12, 2015, 03:46:51 AM »
The rotation of the Unbalanced Wheel effectively produced a vertical oscillation.  The effective force on the shaft is higher when the Unbalanced Weight is moving down and lower when the Unbalanced Weight is moving up.  This is due to the difference in centrifugal force.

If a flywheel is used, some energy will be stored.  The increased torque and stored energy will rotate a generator with more power.  The additional lead-out gravitational energy acts in the same way as the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier.

This experiment can be repeated worldwide.  The cost of an old bicycle wheel in China is "scrap".  Any recycling center will have dozens.

The debunkers will not (or paid not to) do such an experiment.  They can jeer and smear.  Was Jesus jeered and smeared at before he was crucified?

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3125 on: April 12, 2015, 03:56:55 AM »


The debunkers will not (or paid not to) do such an experiment.  They can jeer and smear. 
Lawrence
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Vidar did just such an experiment and has reposted his link above.  (See reply 3139)

Did you not watch his video?  He did exactly what you have proposed and showed that it does not work.

Bill

PS  I'll make it easy for you.  Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3RAL-SWjc

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3126 on: April 12, 2015, 06:07:17 AM »
The rotation of the Unbalanced Wheel effectively produced a vertical oscillation.  The effective force on the shaft is higher when the Unbalanced Weight is moving down and lower when the Unbalanced Weight is moving up.  This is due to the difference in centrifugal force.

If a flywheel is used, some energy will be stored.  The increased torque and stored energy will rotate a generator with more power.  The additional lead-out gravitational energy acts in the same way as the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier.

This experiment can be repeated worldwide.  The cost of an old bicycle wheel in China is "scrap".  Any recycling center will have dozens.

The debunkers will not (or paid not to) do such an experiment.  They can jeer and smear.  Was Jesus jeered and smeared at before he was crucified?

Lawrence
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There are no experiments that back your claims.  There are many such as Vidar's that refute your claims.  You have reduced yourself to the role of a lying troll.  Dishonest posts lead-out ridicule and contempt.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3127 on: April 12, 2015, 07:32:51 AM »
HAHAHA, that was a good one  ;D ! Words, words, words, and some people are just ignorant enough to get fooled. They will NEVER share the results with nobody - it is too embarrassing  ;D ;D

Why can't you just look at my video with the imbalanced wheel, and see for yourself that these people does not have a single clue of what they're doing? THERE IS NO OVERUNITY IN IMBALANCE - IT IS JUST IMBALANCE!!! GOT IT? :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3RAL-SWjc

Vidar

Your experiment never measured torque.  Your shaky set up wasted much energy.  Please do proper scientific experiments.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3128 on: April 12, 2015, 07:38:42 AM »
Your experiment never measured torque.  Your shaky set up wasted much energy.  Please do proper scientific experiments.

That is exactly what we have been saying to you.  It is shaky because it is unbalanced.  Yes, it does waste a lot of energy and, this is the point.  We have been telling you this for a while now.  You can not have a smooth unbalanced rotor...it shakes...wastes energy...Bingo.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3129 on: April 12, 2015, 10:03:15 AM »
Your experiment never measured torque.  Your shaky set up wasted much energy.  Please do proper scientific experiments.
This is exactly what we have been trying to tell YOU all the time. Imbalanced wheels WILL ofcourse shake and waste energy.
If it was fixed to a very rigid base, and did not shake, the wheel would spin just like any other wheel. I can demonstrate that too if you like, and see if a non shaking imbalanced wheel accelerate instead of slowing down - if it's neccessary to feed you with a teaspoon.


It is not neccessary to measure torque when you and me already knows there is no over unity or lead-out energy involved.
As you also know well, is that torque alone does not tell us anything about the energy output or input. You need to multiply torque with angular velocity to find the energy output.
You can have great torque, but no angular velocity - in that case no energy is spent or delivered.
You can have great angular velocity, but no torque - in that case no energy is spent or delivered.


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3130 on: April 12, 2015, 10:27:08 AM »


It is not neccessary to measure torque when you and me already knows there is no over unity or lead-out energy involved.


As you also know well, is that torque alone does not tell us anything about the energy output or input. You need to multiply torque with angular velocity to find the energy output.
You can have great torque, but no angular velocity - in that case no energy is spent or delivered.
You can have great angular velocity, but no torque - in that case no energy is spent or delivered.


Vidar

It is necessary to measure torque if there is lead-out energy involved.

Let Organization X and over 60 others with working QMOGENs do proper scientific experiments - including the measurement of torque.

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3131 on: April 12, 2015, 10:44:46 AM »
It is necessary to measure torque if there is lead-out energy involved.

Let Organization X and over 60 others with working QMOGENs do proper scientific experiments - including the measurement of torque.

Lawrence
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LOL, neither Organization X, nor even Racer X can make your fantasy true.  Vidar's experiment was actually very scientific.  Unlike you, he actually conceived, executed and presented an experiment that proved his contentions.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3132 on: April 12, 2015, 10:54:32 AM »
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2013:12:21#1930.2F1960_QMoGen_and_1882_patents_--_It.27s_variants_have_been_around_a_long_time

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Subject: 1930/1960 QMoGen and 1882 patents, it's variants have been around a long time

Good Evening,
I believe many of you will find this most interesting, if you read it in it's entirety and think about it... Oh the surprises in life! A patent in 1882 and the U.S. Navy.
The QMoGen and it's variants has been around since 1882, less self-looping and then maybe....

The lead-out energy theory provides the theoretical justification for something that existed for a long time...

Those who do not understand Physics and Centrifugal Forces cannot see even it they look.  They cannot understand (or paid not to understand).  The logical path to take is to ignore them...

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3133 on: April 12, 2015, 03:29:21 PM »
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2013:12:21#1930.2F1960_QMoGen_and_1882_patents_--_It.27s_variants_have_been_around_a_long_time

I believe many of you will find this most interesting, if you read it in it's entirety and think about it... Oh the surprises in life! A patent in 1882 and the U.S. Navy.


"Of these, closest to the QMoGen is the Amplidyne developed in WWII by Mr. Alexanderson in 1943..."

Some fairly complicated motor systems here:
EFW Alexanderson.  Electric drive. Feb 23rd, 2,312,061 and 62,  April 6th, 2,315,489  (and 90 and 91).


List:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=PALL&RS=%28IN%2Fanderson+AND+ISD%2F1943%29&Refine=Refine+Search&Query=in%2Falexanderson+and+isd%2F1943


First doc:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=02312061&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsearch-adv.htm%2526r%3D7%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526S1%3D%28alexanderson.INNM.%252BAND%252B1943$.PD.%29%2526OS%3Din%2Falexanderson%252Band%252Bisd%2F1943%2526RS%3D%28IN%2Falexanderson%252BAND%252BISD%2F1943%29&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page

Can someone review this lot? They're beyond my ken.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3134 on: April 12, 2015, 08:26:41 PM »
It is necessary to measure torque if there is lead-out energy involved.

Let Organization X and over 60 others with working QMOGENs do proper scientific experiments - including the measurement of torque.

Lawrence
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Ther is no "if". Lead out energy does not exist. And again, energy involves more than torque. Guess what.
Organization X might exist, and if it does, there are 60 ignorant members of it - all not capable to fix a broken wheel.


Vidar